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#81 of 781 OFFLINE   Mark Walker

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Posted November 29 2012 - 02:01 PM

I don't understand why we need a thread about Blu-rays that had their prices just drop. It takes those films away from the folks that paid more for them.:rolleyes:

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#82 of 781 OFFLINE   Jason_V

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Posted November 29 2012 - 02:21 PM

What is the whole hullabaloo about now?  I'm confused.


Is the conversation about saying some movies are gay friendly and others aren't?  Is it "gay friendly"--that's entirely relevant since some movies clearly are not.  Are we arguing over the use of the word "gay" which has changed over the years?  Maybe something about dictionary definitions and boxes...I'm lost.


I don't think anyone has tried to claim ownership of anything here.  If anything, different items from various movies are being mentioned in a gay context.  It would be the same thing if another minority said they saw a parallel to their non-white, non-female, non-factory worker lives in Norma Rae.  Or if a non-African American identified with a Tyler Perry movie and said so.

We all see different things in movies and they can be discussed here, Eric.  Please explain what the entire problem is here to me.  One or two sentences will do.



#83 of 781 OFFLINE   Mark Walker

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Posted November 29 2012 - 02:28 PM

I don't understand why folks need a "Blu-Ray Custom Cover art" thread. Why can't they just post that custom cover as a post in the thread for each movie?. It takes the films away from everyone who doesn't want a custom cover made for that movie!:rolleyes:

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#84 of 781 OFFLINE   Neil Middlemiss

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Posted November 29 2012 - 03:21 PM

I find his persistent stereotyping of the gay community and his petty generalizations offensive. I enjoy perusing this thread and, as a straight man, utterly not offended by its purpose, existence or run.
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#85 of 781 OFFLINE   Moe Dickstein

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Posted November 29 2012 - 03:40 PM

I guess I don't get how anything is being taken from you Eric? I don't think anything is being locked up in a gays-only vault, or getting a gays-only sticker on the box art to warn people... I think that is the fundamental disconnect. If you have insecurities about how you are perceived based on your tastes, then I'm sorry but that is your issue. If I might ask, what do you feel is appropriate to be discussed here? I agree the title of this thread is unfortunate "gay-friendly" but I simply take it to mean a place to discuss films and television shows which have gay themes, characters or interest without getting attacked for it - as I believe was the case when Bell Book and Candle was being discussed in the review thread there. It really shocked me how many people got SO defensive as if we were destroying their movie and they couldn't enjoy it if we put it through that prism. I think you can see that your views or the way you are presenting them are not finding much support.
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#86 of 781 OFFLINE   Mark Walker

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Posted November 29 2012 - 03:44 PM

MattH, I found that the link to your great review of Sunday Bloody Sunday wasn't included with your post. Great review! Thanks! I will have to Netflix it and probably buy it therafter. Here is the link to your review: http://www.hometheat...-blu-ray-review Cheers

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#87 of 781 OFFLINE   Mark Walker

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Posted November 29 2012 - 04:00 PM

I agree, Moe re: title of the thread. I, frankly, could not think of a more economical way to say: "films that have gay themes, characters, text, subtext and/or gay-related behind-the-scenes stories, discussed in an accepting manner." And "Gay-Friendly" had worked fine without incident in the DVD portion of this forum...call it a legacy title from the previous thread's starter. While flawed, it says what the intent of the thread is in two words and covers all the bases of the longer title, albeit without including the now clearly needed, "They're ours! Not Yours! No sharing! No broad appreciation allowed! All films are now mutually exclusive!" It is too stupid to think about that kind of argument any further.

I guess I don't get how anything is being taken from you Eric? I don't think anything is being locked up in a gays-only vault, or getting a gays-only sticker on the box art to warn people... I think that is the fundamental disconnect. If you have insecurities about how you are perceived based on your tastes, then I'm sorry but that is your issue. If I might ask, what do you feel is appropriate to be discussed here? I agree the title of this thread is unfortunate "gay-friendly" but I simply take it to mean a place to discuss films and television shows which have gay themes, characters or interest without getting attacked for it - as I believe was the case when Bell Book and Candle was being discussed in the review thread there. It really shocked me how many people got SO defensive as if we were destroying their movie and they couldn't enjoy it if we put it through that prism. I think you can see that your views or the way you are presenting them are not finding much support.


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Posted November 29 2012 - 05:38 PM

Do yourself a favor and just give the man a shot. Quantum of Solace, the least of the Craig films, is 1,000 times the movie Die Another Day is.

Lessee, I should watch a film built on a concept I don't like starring an actor I've already seen is a cipher in order to give that cipher "a shot". Hm. . . Nope, I've got better uses for two hours of my time.

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Posted November 29 2012 - 05:38 PM

Back on topic, Spartacus Blood and Sand and Vengeance showed up today (well, yesterday). Gods of the Arena will be here next week. I'm going to try to slip in Sunday Bloody Sunday sometime this weekend (I picked it up from the Barnes and Noble sale). Off-topic, right now, I'm getting my 60's TV fix by watching The Dick Van Dyke Show, 3.5 blu-rays to go, and I will have finished the series.

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Posted November 29 2012 - 05:43 PM

Is DVD on Blu worth it? How good do they look?
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#91 of 781 OFFLINE   Ethan Riley

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Posted November 29 2012 - 05:57 PM

What the hell is this thread even about, anyway
 

 


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Posted November 29 2012 - 06:29 PM

Kevin EK's review of ParaNoram can be found here I agree with his review of the film, with the only difference being I found the reason for it being in this thread not out of step with the rest of the film which does weave more mature subject matter into it along with the more kid-friendly material than most films that look the way it does....much the way Will Vinton Studios had done from time to time before it became Laika.

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Posted November 29 2012 - 08:00 PM

So will somebody explain why ParaNorman is a gay-friendly movie, or do I have to watch it to find out? Would letting us in on the secret constitute some major spoiler or something?

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Posted November 29 2012 - 08:32 PM

So will somebody explain why ParaNorman is a gay-friendly movie, or do I have to watch it to find out? Would letting us in on the secret constitute some major spoiler or something?

Yes, that would be a spoiler, though not major, it is a good one to not be spoiled.

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Posted November 29 2012 - 08:51 PM

I agree, Moe re: title of the thread. I, frankly, could not think of a more economical way to say: "films that have gay themes, characters, text, subtext and/or gay-related behind-the-scenes stories, discussed in an accepting manner." And "Gay-Friendly" had worked fine without incident in the DVD portion of this forum...call it a legacy title from the previous thread's starter. It is too stupid to think about that kind of argument any further.

Except that the word choice implies that any movie that even remotely touches on gay content for whatever passing reason--whether flat-out director intent, or simply referencing that a character is, or mentioning it in the story, or could even be "subtext" twisted a certain way in certain analyses if you wanted to play biased spin-doctor--is now the gays' FRIEND, of course... Which is exactly the kind of wishful presumption that turns straights off with a passion: The idea of "outing" movies the same as some leaning celeb magazines decide to "out" celebrities with a simple declaration just for the shock value or just plain wishful thinking. There's public resentment of gays toward straights, to be sure, and most of it comes out in the form of immature "Ha, betcha didn't know your beloved favorites were really on our side, didja?", as if their pirate treehouse club was bigger than ours, and therefore more important, with all the cool kids wishing to get in. And when it might not actually be, in the real world, that comes off a bit defensive and self-delusional. (Which is one reason I also rankle that any complaint against the gay community is immediately labeled "homophobic", which implies the belief that straights are somehow secretly quaking in their boots for insecure fear of their own sense of identity--Like the AV geeks who say "Ha, they ph33r our Mad sKillz!" One generally doesn't fear wishful self-delusion, one's just desperately annoyed by it. Is there a word for "Homo-bugged", it would sound less contentious?) It's just the idea of "We have so many FRIENDS!" Well, I suppose you might need all you can get, but just do a little detached double-checking on whether they actually are, first.

Off-topic, right now, I'm getting my 60's TV fix by watching The Dick Van Dyke Show, 3.5 blu-rays to go, and I will have finished the series.

(Oh, if you're even SUGGESTING Rob & Laura, friend, have you got the wrong series...The most enthusiastically heterosexual couple on 60's television, short of Gomez & Morticia.) :P

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Posted November 30 2012 - 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ejanss 


Except that the word choice implies that any movie that even remotely touches on gay content for whatever passing reason--whether flat-out director intent, or simply referencing that a character is, or mentioning it in the story, or could even be "subtext" twisted a certain way in certain analyses if you wanted to play biased spin-doctor--is now the gays' FRIEND, of course...
 


So, for instance, you would take umbridge with calling Nightmare on Elm Street 2 a gay movie, right?  No one "intended" for that to happen in production, but that is the way a great many people see it.  I don't think that film is very gay friendly even with the gay themes most people see in it.  Based on the sample size of one, your argument doesn't hold up.


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Which is exactly the kind of wishful presumption that turns straights off with a passion: The idea of "outing" movies the same as some leaning celeb magazines decide to "out" celebrities with a simple declaration just for the shock value or just plain wishful thinking. There's public resentment of gays toward straights, to be sure, and most of it comes out in the form of immature "Ha, betcha didn't know your beloved favorites were really on our side, didja?", as if their pirate treehouse club was bigger than ours, and therefore more important, with all the cool kids wishing to get in. And when it might not actually be, in the real world, that comes off a bit defensive and self-delusional.
 


So you're saying gays secretly want to be straight?  Um...no.  This is one gay man who has tried to lie about who he was.  No, thank you.  A majority of my family supports me, my partner's family supports me, my friends support me and my workplace supports me.  The resentment, dear Eric, comes in when any group feels they are better than another and seek to withhold a right they have from another group.  Knowing the long-standing rules about politics on the HTF and not wanting to run afoul of them, I think we can all read between the lines of what I mean.


It sounds like, in this thread, you are resenting the gay folks for seeing things and talking about them  in movies which may not have been intended or you don't agree with.



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Posted November 30 2012 - 01:43 AM

I'm glad that the mere inclusion of a pseudo same-sex sex scene(rather attempted...) in a movie automatically makes it "just a gay movie". So that means I can move Ken Park from my collection of "indictment of parental ineptitude" to simply "gay movie"...because the step father in a drunken stupor, fueled by "nobody likes my mysogynist tendencies" attempts to give a bj to his step-son...

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Posted November 30 2012 - 01:56 AM

So, for instance, you would take umbridge with calling Nightmare on Elm Street 2 a gay movie, right?

Nightmare 2 is gay?! Sure, Jesse has 'something' inside of him that's trying to get out, he wanders into a gay S&M bar and he runs away from making out with his girlfriend to see his shirtless, well-built best friend who is asleep in bed but I don't see how any of that makes it-- oh wait, I think I figured it out. :)

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Posted November 30 2012 - 02:03 AM

Except that the word choice implies that any movie that even remotely touches on gay content for whatever passing reason--whether flat-out director intent, or simply referencing that a character is, or mentioning it in the story, or could even be "subtext" twisted a certain way in certain analyses if you wanted to play biased spin-doctor--is now the gays' FRIEND, of course...

... which is only an issue for people person who wants to make one of it. The rest of us read the brief description in the original post and "got it".

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Posted November 30 2012 - 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by TravisR 


Nightmare 2 is gay?! Sure, Jesse has 'something' inside of him that's trying to get out, he wanders into a gay S&M bar and he runs away from making out with his girlfriend to see his shirtless, well-built best friend who is asleep in bed but I don't see how any of that makes it-- oh wait, I think I figured it out. Posted Image


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