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I checked the specifications at Amazon's pre-order page...it's 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Don't know if it includes the song you singled out, but it's only $18.55 a pop from them!!!Originally Posted by jim_falconer /t/322490/the-muppets-christmas-carol-20th-anniversary-blu-ray-available-for-preorder-on-amazon#post_3952881
agreed. unless it's widescreen and includes "when love is gone", I'll just continue to watch my laserdisc each Christmas.
Originally Posted by NY2LA /t/322490/the-muppets-christmas-carol-20th-anniversary-blu-ray-available-for-preorder-on-amazon#post_3953958
I Love it too but I suspect Disney is just giving us a Blu copy of what we already have - the complete version 1.33 and OAR cut. Why they won't go back to the original elements and do a new transfer I don't know. Did they lose them?? But here and on Amazon fans have shown disapproval over this.
Another factor regarding previous editions is the first DVD included Good Making-Of material that has been replaced with lamer stuff on the last DVD. I had to keep them both.
That almost definitely is due to the extended versions of those movies being finished on video rather than film. That's probably why the song has been missing from this movie in various incarnations too. If I had to bet, I'd say that they won't go back to the film elements of the deleted scene/song and re-edit it back into the film so I think it's going to be MIA here too.MatthewA said:I've been thinking about that, seeing how some Disney Blu-rays have not included the deleted scenes that were on laserdisc (Ransom, Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poets Society).
The movie was produced on 35mm film. The song, being part of the movie, was shot on film as well. Director Brian Henson wanted the song included on Homevid and it was - mastered, as it could only have been, from the film it was shot on. The first disc release was a laserdisc that had the complete film transferred in Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio. The first DVD was 1.33 and was complete with the song. The last DVD added a widescreen transfer that was missing the song. However the song clearly does exist in its original OAR, - on film.TravisR said:That almost definitely is due to the extended versions of those movies being finished on video rather than film. That's probably why the song has been missing from this movie in various incarnations too. If I had to bet, I'd say that they won't go back to the film elements of the deleted scene/song and re-edit it back into the film so I think it's going to be MIA here too.
As for it still being 1.33, I think that's all but impossible. Given the age of the DVD, they are most likely doing a new transfer for the Blu-ray and if that's the case, it will be 1.78/1.85.
Yes, I know that it was shot on film but, at the time of VHS and laserdisc, the extended cut of the movie was probably finished on video and not on film. Many studios weren't thinking beyond video in the 1990's so now when they go to do a Blu-ray, they can't use the extended cut because it exists only as NTSC video (like Dead Poet's Society, Good Morning Vietnam, Ransom or Scream). Of course, they still should be able to go back and find all the "non-theatrical" footage and release an extended cut on Blu-ray but that requires money that they aren't always interested in spending. Hopefully, this will be a time when they go the extra mile and do it right.NY2LA said:The movie was produced on 35mm film. The song, being part of the movie, was shot on film as well. Director Brian Henson wanted the song included on Homevid and it was - mastered, as it could only have been, from the film it was shot on.
Yeah I know how that kind of thing was done. I was around then. And so were the film elements for the song.TravisR said:Yes, I know that it was shot on film but, at the time of VHS and laserdisc, the extended cut of the movie was probably finished on video and not on film. Many studios weren't thinking beyond video in the 1990's so now when they go to do a Blu-ray, they can't use the extended cut because it exists only as NTSC video (like Dead Poet's Society, Good Morning Vietnam, Ransom or Scream). Of course, they still should be able to go back and find all the "non-theatrical" footage and release an extended cut on Blu-ray but that requires money that they aren't always interested in spending. Hopefully, this will be a time when they go the extra mile and do it right.
Who is reaching for excuses? I think it's pretty much given that every consumer wants things done right but I even specified "Hopefully, this will be a time when they go the extra mile and do it right."NY2LA said:See, I don't believe in reaching for excuses for movie companies to cut corners on things they expect us to buy again and again.
TravisR said:Who is reaching for excuses?
"finished on video?" The whole movie was transferred - "finished" on video.TravisR said:That almost definitely is due to the extended versions of those movies being finished on video rather than film. That's probably why the song has been missing from this movie in various incarnations too. If I had to bet, I'd say that they won't go back to the film elements of the deleted scene/song and re-edit it back into the film so I think it's going to be MIA here too.