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Olive announced first titles from the Republic catalog: "High Noon" and the original "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"


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#21 of 77 haineshisway

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Posted April 26 2012 - 09:38 AM

I agree Matt, I just want to be sure they're done in the correct AR. IOTBS is an interesting case: it was composed for widescreen but released in a process slightly wider than the director intended. Which ratio would you go with? For the record, the film completed shooting in 1.85:1 on April 27, 1955 and the announcement of a 2.1:1 Superscope release wasn't made until a month later on May 28, 1955. http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/

if it were me, I'd include 1.85 and Superscope. That way you get it all. But I think it's pretty clear to all that Olive have nothing to do with the transfers - if new ones were done at some point they were either done by Paramount or someone else. I think we're going to be at the mercy of whatever they're handed. In the case of High Noon, that should look splendid. If they get around to The Quiet Man, we'll have to wait and see if it's something new or the absolutely dreadful previous DVD transfer. I think as with their Paramount-licensed films, it will be case by case - some of those look fine, some don't.

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Posted April 26 2012 - 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by haineshisway 


if it were me, I'd include 1.85 and Superscope. That way you get it all. But I think it's pretty clear to all that Olive have nothing to do with the transfers - if new ones were done at some point they were either done by Paramount or someone else. I think we're going to be at the mercy of whatever they're handed. In the case of High Noon, that should look splendid. If they get around to The Quiet Man, we'll have to wait and see if it's something new or the absolutely dreadful previous DVD transfer. I think as with their Paramount-licensed films, it will be case by case - some of those look fine, some don't.


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Posted April 26 2012 - 09:58 AM

As Superscope is a post-production process, wouldn't that mean that if INVASION was restored from the original camera negative it could be transferred opened up? I'm not saying that's what should be done, as it WAS released to theaters in the 2:1 ratio, but the original negative would have the fuller image. I think it's more likely they used a print rather than the negative, but I'd love to be wrong. If you want an idea of what the film looks like opened up, take a look at the trailer which is not in Superscope.

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Posted April 26 2012 - 11:55 AM

Any chance of seeing Body Snatchers as originally filmed w/o the added scenes and narration?



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Posted April 26 2012 - 01:35 PM

Duplicate post. Wassup with that???

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Posted April 26 2012 - 01:46 PM

I'm just thrilled to finally retire my hideous DVD. I tried watching it a few months ago, and it looked terrible. Oh, and it's one of my top ten favorite films of all time, so I'm extra thrilled to cross one more title of my blu-ray wish list. This will make 8 out of 10 (the only holdouts now are Vertigo and Portrait of Jennie). Thanks, Olive! :D Also ---- I totally dig the cover. I prefer this poster though: http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/

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Posted April 26 2012 - 02:44 PM

Update from Olive: A correction to the original press release.


I just received the following E-mail from the Olive publicist:


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BOTH FILMS WERE RESTORED OF A FINEGRAIN 35MM PRINT – NOT THE ORIGINAL NEGATIVE

The original negative for INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS does not exist and is considered lost.

The HIGH NOON negative does exist – But this restoration was done off a FINEGRAIN.



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Posted April 26 2012 - 02:44 PM

Its available for preorder at Classicflix.com Im glad its going to be in its orginal *scope* format. Im really looking forward to it. Its the biggest one I wanted from Olives library :)

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Posted April 26 2012 - 05:46 PM

These two titles were "restored" by Paramount from older FGM's, so I would hold off until reviews are posted.

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Posted April 26 2012 - 07:37 PM

Update from Olive: A correction to the original press release. I just received the following E-mail from the Olive publicist: (quote) BOTH FILMS WERE RESTORED OF A FINEGRAIN 35MM PRINT – NOT THE ORIGINAL NEGATIVE The original negative for INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS does not exist and is considered lost. The HIGH NOON negative does exist – But this restoration was done off a FINEGRAIN. (unquote)  

I believe the "off the negative" comment in the press release was just what all those Republic titles used to say - in the case of The Quiet Man we all knew that was a load of hooey - as mentioned elsewhere, all Olive can do is release what they are given. In some cases that will be okay and in many others it will not.

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Posted April 26 2012 - 10:28 PM

Just ordered both of these blu-rays at Amazon...for $20.99 each!!! Not too bad for two classics that used to cost an arm and a leg as Criterion laserdisc releases 30 years ago...Posted Image



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Posted April 26 2012 - 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by SeanAx 

I contacted Olive and was told that Johnny Guitar "is right around the corner."


I'm excited about the upcoming release of High Noon, but this announcement has me absolutely giddy!



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Posted April 27 2012 - 12:46 AM

I'm excited, disappointed, & confused all at the same time.:confused: The missing extras on "High Noon" is disturbing to me, but not as much as the complete absence of extras on "Invasion..." which in the very least is worthy of a commentary track. That in conjunction with the incorrect press release has me extremely hesistant to pre-order. The short time to market also has me concerned that these could be the same transfers, so I will wait until the first reviews.

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Posted April 27 2012 - 12:47 AM

Excited about both, but I will echo others' sentiment (and reiterate my own) that the ideal way to release Invasion of the Body Snatchers after all of these years, and finally on Blu-ray, is (1) with both aspect ratios -- and, I think even more importantly, (2) with both the theatrical cut and Don Siegel's preferred cut without the framing scenes and voice-over narration.  Missed opportunity, anyone?  Yes, we're looking a gift horse in the mouth.


And I may have missed something above, but it looks like I'll be hanging on to my Criterion LDs of both films, for the commentary tracks (I think I recall IOTBS having a good one), and the 2-disc DVD of High Noon for additional worthy extras.



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Posted April 27 2012 - 01:12 AM

Any chance of seeing Body Snatchers as originally filmed w/o the added scenes and narration?

Seconded. My DVD is 2.00:1. I've watched it a few times, both as a film (for enjoyment) and studying the framing/aspect ratio, and I've yet to be struck by a shot that looks 'wrong'. Steve W
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Posted April 27 2012 - 01:16 AM

I may be in the minority but I prefer the '78 remake. The Siegel film is brilliant but I feel the remake is a bit more "dynamic", it sort of amplifies the original story to a certain extent and gives it a more epic feel. It'll be great to finally have the original, though, even if the BD will be less than perfect.
 

 


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Posted April 27 2012 - 01:24 AM

For years I maintained strict allegiance to the Siegel original as the "only" IOTBS film worth its salt, and I am grateful for the ability to grow and change.  I think the Kaufman is absolutely brilliant, and the two will forever share the body snatching place of honor on my shelf.  I even like Ferrara's simpler but still effective 1993 Body Snatchers, which I've only seen a couple of times several years apart, so I haven't spoiled it for myself.



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Posted April 27 2012 - 01:32 AM

It's interesting to me that all versions of this movie reflect the fears of American society at the times of their release. The original reflected the anxiety of the Cold War. The '78 version showed the milieu of a changing society, with "new age" philosophies portraying non-believers as the enemy. I can't remember much about Ferrara's version, but I think it dealt with the militarization of society. The Invasion seemed to hint at fears about terrorism and immigration. Doug

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Posted April 27 2012 - 01:45 AM

Both IOFBS are right up there - I prefer the 78 version also but thats by just a fraction. Both are great. Id like the 1993 Body Snatchers get on Blu to round off all the IOFBS titles :)

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Posted April 27 2012 - 02:01 AM

I like the original the best, with the '78 version a close second. The Invasion was pretty poor, in my opinion, although it was nice having Daniel Craig in there. Kevin McCarthy's slow degeneration into complete paranoia is unmatched.
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