Thanks for the reply, but I'm not so sure that that is accurate. Check out Blue Jeans Cable's website, they make it sound like 1080p will go though component video cable just fine, and it makes perfect sense in my minds eye. There is nothing special or exotic about an HDMI cable over component video, which is what made me ask this question in the first place. HDMI was not created to benefit the consumer, but to benefit the producers and aid them with copy right infringement.Mark-P said:
The issue isn't whether or not the cable can "handle" the bandwidth - the issue is copy protection. As long as the video signal remains in the digital domain, it can remain encrypted. Once it's converted to analog format (for transmission via component video cables) the encryption is lost. The last thing studios want is for an unencrypted, 1080p video signal to be readily available to any Tom, Dick, or Harry that wants to make a copy.
This is how I understand it as well, but it seems like someone (studios?) is paying somebody else (manufacturers?) to not allow 1080p to move through anything but HDMI. All of the electronics seem to be programmed to not allow this to happen. For instance; I have a Pioneer DVD player that has both HDMI and component video outs, and the programming will not allow progressive upscaling to selected with component video, it's grayed out in the menu. It's the same way on my Dish receiver, has component video out, but programming will not allow 1080i to move unless you go through HDMI.Jason Charlton said:
Unless you have one of these - http://www.pcworld.com/article/108169/samsung_aims_high_with_new_dvd_player.htmlJim Mcc said:
I'm asking because I'm ticked off that the studios are making the world convert over to a crappy cable design. All of the equipment that I have has the proper HDMI ins and outs, but HDMI has the 19 wire rats nest, is fragile and doesn't bend well, and they are prone to coming loose from their receptacles. They are not nearly as robust as component video which will transmit a 1080p bandwidth just fine, or at least within the distances that you pointed out and I'm well under those.Jim Mcc said:
You left out that HDMI often has sync problems. In any case I agree with you.
I don't think they're paying them. Rather, the manufacturers are not allowed to license the BR decoders unless they agree to prevent HD over analog. ("Plug the analog hole" was the phrase back when BR was raping HD-DVD and everyone bought in to being copy protected out of their content. (To think , back in the good old days that line would have gotten me a stern warning.) And I think it's a major victory by the studios, not a minor one.
I don't know how the Dish receivers are, but my digital cable box has no problem sending 1080i programming over component. I used component for my HDTV watching, since tv doesn't broadcast in 1080p anyway. I changed over to HDMI because I couldn't get my Harmony remote to work quite right with the component connections (5-6 yr. old Harmony). As soon as my health will allow, I'll pull my stand out, and connect the HDMI from cable box to my Onkyo receiver, instead of straight to tv. Once I do that, all will be well again, mostly for my wife, and with the Harmony.apn73 said:
Sell your BD player for millions of dollars. That would be the only BD ever created that can send out an analog 1080P, you are sitting on a goldmine man...redeye007 said:
Alright, that's not the point of the request, but I'll entertain the question. The ROKU boxes have 1080p HDMI functionality issues with some legacy HDCP compatible devices because of the encryption encoder they chose to use in their price-sensitive devices. It's not an HDMI cable run length issue. My existing bluray player also delivers 1080p with a 25ft HDMI cable to the projector.schan1269 said:
