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#1 of 15 OFFLINE   Richard--W

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Posted March 25 2012 - 09:28 PM

A curiosity: the History Channel / A&E compiled 3-D military photography, stereocards shot by a French man during the occupation, and a 3-D film shot by Nazis in 1943. http://www.amazon.co...6310_pe_epc_dp6 Released last January 24. I haven't seen it yet, but I know I'm going to like it.

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Posted March 27 2012 - 11:06 AM

History Channel seems to be getting heavily into 3-D-- They've also announced "History of the World in Two Hours: 3D" for May, and unless they found any more stereoscopic postcards for that, think that one's a conversion. http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B006QVRW0S/ (Not sure if there is a satellite History Channel 3D out there, but if there is, we need all the broadcast/cable channels we can get. :D )

#3 of 15 OFFLINE   GregK

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Posted March 27 2012 - 11:23 AM

Most of the stereoscopic stills in this feature are from the axis side. Also included are snippets from a 1943 Nazi gun training short which was originally shot in dual strip 3-D. There is a lot of positive parallax in the various stereoscopic stills, so a 3DTV with minimal crosstalk is going to be a big plus with this given 3-D BluRay.

#4 of 15 OFFLINE   Steve Tannehill

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Posted March 27 2012 - 12:17 PM

I have this disc. The 3D was poor.

#5 of 15 OFFLINE   Richard--W

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Posted March 27 2012 - 12:40 PM

From the axis side? That makes it even more interesting. Do they use any of the aerial bomber stereo photos? Thanks for checking it out. With regard to stereocards: there are literally thousands -- hundreds of thousands -- from the 1850s up through the 1910s that need to be transferred to Blu-ray. There are enough stereocards of New York City, for example, to show its rise. Watch the neighborhood grow taller and the streets get longer around the Flat Iron building. I could do a two-hour documentary on the history of the Civil War changing the stereocards every 5 seconds. No repetition. For about 70 years nearly every home in America, if not throughout the civilized world, owned a stereoscopic viewer and a box or two of stereocards. Some people even had a special cabinet to house their collection of stereocards. They exist today in very good quality and transferring them is routine, for any outfit that wants to do it.

#6 of 15 OFFLINE   GregK

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Posted March 27 2012 - 02:31 PM

Steve, Which aspect of the 3-D did you find to be poor? Richard, Yes- with stereoscopic stills, it really is a case of "back to the future". For anyone who wants to check out the Civil War in 3-Dimensions, I would highly recommend the book: The Civil War in Depth: History in 3-D, which comes with a hand held stereo viewer. It was an instant hit with a number of stereoscopic 3-D buffs when it was released some 15 years ago. There have been a number of books that have reprinted the stereo cards of the 19th and early 20th century. My local library has nice selection of them, so its worth checking into if it is of interest. I've heard 2nd hand the History Channel was working on a Civil War 3DTV special, but am not sure if it has been shown yet.

#7 of 15 OFFLINE   Steve Tannehill

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Posted March 27 2012 - 03:02 PM

Steve, Which aspect of the 3-D did you find to be poor?

There was no stereo separation. it looked like flat, still images, except for the training video which just did not look like it was 3D at all.

#8 of 15 OFFLINE   GregK

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Posted March 28 2012 - 02:57 PM

There was no stereo separation. it looked like flat, still images, except for the training video which just did not look like it was 3D at all.

Hi Steve, If time permits, try giving this disc another spin. I wonder if the 3-D function was inadvertantly shut off or in a wrong mode the first time around. I found this feature to have a healthy dose of parallax, more so than many of the recent wave of 3-D features. I've attached a couple of images from the 3D Bluray. One is in the R/L viewing configuration for glasses free viewing for those who how. The other two are shown in anaglyph (red lens over left eye) ..simply to highlight the parallax. http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ Image notes: The sample 3-D images above are shown as a R/L pair for glasses-free cross-eyed 3-D viewing, and as anaglyphs (red/cyan) to highlight parallax differences. The disc itself utilizes the recent 3-D Bluray standards for today's 3DTVs, bears the licensed 3D Bluray logo, and is mastered to play as standard 2-D on systems not equipped with 3-D capabilities.

#9 of 15 OFFLINE   Richard--W

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Posted March 28 2012 - 05:31 PM

Is the Blu-ray in anaglyph? If it's anaglyph, I'll pass. To paraphrase Gilbert & Sullivan, I hate anaglyph with a loathing that borders on absolute detestation. Your matched stereo pair for free-eye viewing works very well with a Lorgnette viewer: http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ It works for antique stereocards very well. http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/

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Posted March 28 2012 - 05:35 PM

No, it's not anaglyph. Greg just created those images to show the amount of parallax between left/right. I really enjoyed this disc and thought the 3-D was quite good. It's nice to see something with real depth. I'm getting a bit annoyed with the nearly flat images being passed off as 3-D in many of the new films! Bob

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#11 of 15 OFFLINE   Bob Furmanek

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Posted March 29 2012 - 06:38 AM

Your matched stereo pair for free-eye viewing works very well with a Lorgnette viewer: It works for antique stereocards very well.

Aren't you seeing those in reverse 3-D with that viewer???

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#12 of 15 OFFLINE   Richard--W

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Posted March 29 2012 - 07:22 AM

Nope. The lenses toes the eye inward exactly the same as the stereo opticon: http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ on it's more streamlined.

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Posted March 29 2012 - 07:30 AM

I think Bob was referring to the fact that Greg's WWII screen cap was R/L while the stereocards are L/R. It's going to appear reverse 3-D for one of them.

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Posted March 29 2012 - 07:36 AM

Hi Steve, If time permits, try giving this disc another spin. I wonder if the 3-D function was inadvertantly shut off or in a wrong mode the first time around. I found this feature to have a healthy dose of parallax, more so than many of the recent wave of 3-D features.

All the settings on my Oppo and Mits are set to automatic. I am wondering if the disc is not flagged properly, and manual settings are required.

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Posted March 29 2012 - 09:19 AM

To avoid any confusion for those who may "skim" through these threads, I've modified my previous post with an image note at the bottom.

All the settings on my Oppo and Mits are set to automatic. I am wondering if the disc is not flagged properly, and manual settings are required.

Hi Steve, The reason I asked is my upstairs Vizio 3DTV, which I really do like, does have one small irrating quirk: When the display switches from 2-D to 3-D, it flashes an on-screen 3-D notice alert for roughly 5-7 seconds. If I don't select the OK part of the notice in that time period, the notice disappears and the display reverts to 2-D. If I don't have my remote in hand, its easy enough to switch it back into the 3-D mode anytime afterwards. But with possible little got-yas like that, I thought I would mention trying to give it another spin.