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#21 of 39 GerardoHP

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Posted March 27 2012 - 09:01 AM

Could anyone do a quick comparison between the Bluray and the old Fox DVD? It sounds like it's not worth an upgrade but I'd like some confirmation if possible. Thanks.
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Posted March 27 2012 - 09:53 AM

the old DVD is unwatchable compared to the new BD. While the PQ is a step below The Egyptian it is certainly much better than the DVD. As to SQ there is no comparision. If you have the UK Prince Valiant, the PQ is better than that by quite a margin.

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Posted March 27 2012 - 10:17 AM

I would never call this transfer washed out. As I said in my review, I didn't find the color especially vibrant or lustrous in the first half of the film, but there is nothing wrong with the saturation levels. I think it's the darker look to the transfer that may account for the color not being as eye-popping as in The Egyptian. And the color is brighter in the second half, I felt.



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Posted March 28 2012 - 03:18 AM

Screen shots on blu-ray.com look pretty bad - http://www.blu-ray.c...-Blu-ray/35966/

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Posted March 28 2012 - 03:30 AM

Blu-ray http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ DVD http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/

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Posted March 28 2012 - 05:24 AM

Reminds me of the Blu-ray and dvd comparison of Rio Bravo - http://caps-a-holic....cID=761#auswahl

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Posted March 28 2012 - 11:18 AM

While it obviously doesn't look as good as The Robe, which had a 1.5 million dollar restoration not paid for by Fox, Demetrius looks MUCH better than the DVD - after reading all these reports I was expecting a faded disaster, but it's hardly that. My minor caveats are it's a little too dark and a little too brown - if Fox had taken what they had and done a little more work it would be a little more pleasing, but it's an acceptable Blu-ray and there have been many Blu-rays of much lesser quality than this. What's funny to me is that The Egyptian, which did not have a 1.5 million dollar restoration not paid for by Fox, looks better than The Robe. Nick Redman and I just sat here and looked at all three transfers.

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Posted March 28 2012 - 11:32 AM

I'd be okay with this disc if my copy wasn't out of sync so badly.



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Posted March 28 2012 - 11:36 AM

I'd be okay with this disc if my copy wasn't out of sync so badly.

Oh, sorry, meant to speak of the sync issue. There is none, not one whit on either my Samsung or my Oppo. This is obviously player related and no one has ever been able to explain it to me in a way that's understandable. In other words, what can be done? There is nothing to fix. The disc was taken to the authoring house and they checked it on any number of players without incident. It's unfortunate that certain players are obviously having some problem, but the disc itself and its encoding are fine.

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Posted March 28 2012 - 12:15 PM

Yeah, but it still doesn't help me...lol....I tried it on two different players (and models) and same issue. Maybe I need to do a firmware update...anyhow, it's a no go this Easter season because the sync issue is really bad.



#31 of 39 Peter Apruzzese

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Posted March 28 2012 - 12:57 PM

The sync is the only issue I have with it. I didn't expect it to look as good as The Robe, or The Egyptian for that matter, so that part of it is fine. My Panasonic player at home, a 2011 model, is fully updated and calibrated. I'm going to bring it to my office tomorrow and test it there on an older Panasonic player, 2007 vintage, and see if it's the same. I'm hoping it's not duplicated, because that means it will probably play perfecly when I upgrade the home player again next year. This is the first playability issue I've ever had in over 4 years and hundreds of discs, so I'm not that concerned. Eric - what brand/model player do you have?
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Posted March 28 2012 - 01:14 PM

Peter, I have a Sony BDP550. I also tried it in my HP laptop...sync issues were the same.



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Posted March 29 2012 - 12:59 AM

I re-watched and am convinced the "sync" problems are perhaps related to poor dubbing or looping. Oftentimes the dialogue sounds ok but a "slap" or "punch" sound effect seem to come half a second after the action takes place. Also, Cinemascope Tri-sound seems to heighten problems with the sound...

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Posted March 29 2012 - 01:24 AM

That's not the problem....the dvd is fine.



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Posted March 29 2012 - 02:33 AM

I re-watched and am convinced the "sync" problems are perhaps related to poor dubbing or looping. Oftentimes the dialogue sounds ok but a "slap" or "punch" sound effect seem to come half a second after the action takes place. Also, Cinemascope Tri-sound seems to heighten problems with the sound...

"Cinemascope Tri-sound" ?

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Posted March 29 2012 - 05:47 AM

Grainy, washed out, dark and soft and a real disappointment. For this price Fox should do some minimal clean-up!

I noticed very little grain. The colors are super-saturated. The images were focused and on a par with the type of CinemaScope projects I grew up watching in theaters. This was a pretty clean print of "Demetrius...", as well. Overall, it's far from a disappointment for me, at all. The sound was a major plus for me, as well. No sync problems that I noticed and the depth/dimenson of the soundscape and score were superb. Played this on my LG all-region player.

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Posted March 29 2012 - 06:21 AM

I noticed very little grain. The colors are super-saturated. The images were focused and on a par with the type of CinemaScope projects I grew up watching in theaters. This was a pretty clean print of "Demetrisu...", as well. Overall, it's far from a disappointment for me, at all. The sound was a major plus for me, as well. No sync problems that I noticed and the depth/dimenson of the soundscape and score were superb. Played this on my LG all-region player.

While the colors may appear to be saturated, the transfer leans too heavily to the brown/yellow spectrum. All one has to do is compare it to The Egyptian to see what it should look like. It's not egregious here and definitely not worth passing on the disc for - it's not an optimal presentation, but when people say it "sucks" and is a travesty, well, it makes one wonder if they've actually seen any real Blu-ray transfer travesties. For me, this Demetrius is well worth owning.

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Posted June 14 2012 - 01:58 PM

The muted colors is actually the biggest reason I'm very hesitant to get this Blu-ray. I'll probably dole out for it eventually, but the brown veneer of the whole thing bugs me. Still, I bought Deep Red on Blu-ray with its strong yellow look and was fine with that even though I wish it were more colorful, so I think in the end it won't bother me much. The Egyptian, on the other hand... Holy wow is it colorful. I love the look of that Blu-ray.

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Posted June 15 2012 - 06:44 AM

The muted colors is actually the biggest reason I'm very hesitant to get this Blu-ray. I'll probably dole out for it eventually, but the brown veneer of the whole thing bugs me. Still, I bought Deep Red on Blu-ray with its strong yellow look and was fine with that even though I wish it were more colorful, so I think in the end it won't bother me much. The Egyptian, on the other hand... Holy wow is it colorful. I love the look of that Blu-ray.

That brown look is how I've always seen DEMETRIUS, both on television broadcasts and a 16mm print I used to have. So the Blu-ray doesn't bother me at all; it's still the best I've ever seen it look, even if the color isn't technically correct.