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#3841 of 5509 OFFLINE   Bob Furmanek

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Posted May 03 2014 - 01:42 PM

Saying it was zoomed-in is an understatement.

 

Here's a scan from a 35mm trailer comparing it to the DVD image:

 

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#3842 of 5509 OFFLINE   EddieLarkin

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Posted May 03 2014 - 01:45 PM

Oh you think 1956-1957 is bad? I've just learnt Hammer are including an open matte version of Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell on their UK Blu-ray along with the (also likely incorrect) 1.66:1 version. It was one thing when they did it with The Curse of Frankenstein and The Mummy, both from the late 50s, but this is a 1973 film. Get real Hammer. 


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#3843 of 5509 OFFLINE   Bob Furmanek

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Posted May 03 2014 - 01:50 PM

After the CURSE OF FRANKENSTEIN fiasco, I gave up on the people running Hammer.

 

When it comes to aspect ratio issues, they're clueless.


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Posted May 03 2014 - 01:54 PM

I'm fairly certain that their Blu-ray of The Quatermass Xperiment released in Australia is 1.37:1, with no alternative widescreen presentation. If anyone has it I'd appreciate a confirmation.



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Posted May 03 2014 - 03:29 PM

I'm wondering if short subjects from the UK went Wide Screen at a later date than their feature films.

 

I just purchased a great collection of British 30 minute dramatic shorts entitled "SCOTLAND YARD" 

( I remember seeing these shorts in the Cinema here in Australia during the 50s and 60s - they may have been distributed here by 20th Century Fox )

This 7 disc DVD box set contains all of the 39 B&W shorts and the quality is excellent throughout.

 

All the shorts starting from Feb '53 until Feb '59 are 1.37:1 ( 4:3 ) whereas those dating Dec '59 through to June '61 are Widescreen 1.66:1 (Anamorphic)

I would have thought that all the shorts in this set would have been compiled and transferred from film together, so the different ratio is interesting.      Maybe those ones transferred at 1.66:1 were hard mat.

 

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Amazing how your tastes change. I hated these as a kid but now I think they are a Hoot.

Interesting to see many British character actors early in their careers. 

 

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Posted May 03 2014 - 05:07 PM

Good question, Doug.

 

That's one for our UK researchers!


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Posted May 03 2014 - 11:43 PM

I'm fairly certain that their Blu-ray of The Quatermass Xperiment released in Australia is 1.37:1, with no alternative widescreen presentation. If anyone has it I'd appreciate a confirmation.

 

I don't have it but that's the case.


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Posted May 04 2014 - 07:11 AM

Bob, what about Let it Be? Which version would be the best to release on Blu-Ray? The fullscreen 16mm print, or the 35mm 1.85:1 print (Uncropped, unlike the 1981 video versions)?

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Posted May 04 2014 - 07:29 AM

Honestly, research would need to be done to determine the filmmakers intent during principal photography.

 

If it was planned as a TV special, I would say 1.37:1.

 

If it was planned for theatrical, then it was most likely composed for 1.75:1 which was the prevalent UK standard at the time.


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Posted May 04 2014 - 08:13 AM

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Posted May 04 2014 - 04:24 PM

I'm wondering if short subjects from the UK went Wide Screen at a later date than their feature films.

I just purchased a great collection of British 30 minute dramatic shorts entitled "SCOTLAND YARD"
( I remember seeing these shorts in the Cinema here in Australia during the 50s and 60s - they may have been distributed here by 20th Century Fox )
This 7 disc DVD box set contains all of the 39 B&W shorts and the quality is excellent throughout.

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Thanks for letting me know these existed. I love these type of shorts and just ordered a set.
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Posted May 04 2014 - 05:15 PM

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I'm pleased to announce that my new article, THE FIRST YEAR OF WIDESCREEN PRODUCTION, is now on our website. It covers every feature - and most of the live action shorts - that were composed for widescreen in 1953. Hopefully, it will help to dispel many of the myths associated with this era.

 

http://www.3dfilmarc...r-of-widescreen

 

The article took nearly a year to put together with a great deal of research and fact-checking in order to insure accuracy. I hope that you enjoy it.

 

Please share the article so that more people will understand this turbulent period of transition within the industry.

 

Thank you very much!


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Posted May 04 2014 - 05:26 PM

Thanks for letting me know these existed. I love these type of shorts and just ordered a set.

 

Good for you Allen.

 

The picture and sound quality of this set is strong all the way through. Especially the later 1.66:1 episodes.

 

Going by my diary I saw at least 5 of them at the Cinema and they always supported a 20th Century Fox Main Feature, hence my believing them to be associated with Fox.  ( Eg. the "Burning Caravan" short supported  the Fox Cinemascope production "Soldier of Fortune" )

The opening narration on all of them is done with a fake American accent leaving me to believe they were searching for a US release.

 

Of course they are corny and with a small budget but they are always entertaining and very well made.

I spotted several character actors who would go on and appear in many British movies and TV series.

 

I hope you enjoy them Allen.

 

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Posted May 04 2014 - 05:26 PM

Bob, to say this looks fantastic would be an understatement.

 

I just took a quick look and the amount of research, detailed notes, stills, posters, etc., it's mind-blowing.  I can't wait to sit down and spend more than a few minutes looking at the entire piece.

 

Well done, sir!


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Posted May 04 2014 - 05:28 PM

Bob,

Fantastic! I've already shared it with several people. Excellent work as always.
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Posted May 04 2014 - 05:50 PM

Thank you!

 

Please let me know your thoughts after you've had a chance to digest the information.


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Posted May 04 2014 - 07:00 PM

I'm pleased to announce that my new article, THE FIRST YEAR OF WIDESCREEN PRODUCTION, is now on our website. It covers every feature - and most of the live action shorts - that were composed for widescreen in 1953. Hopefully, it will help to dispel many of the myths associated with this era.

http://www.3dfilmarc...r-of-widescreen

The article took nearly a year to put together with a great deal of research and fact-checking in order to insure accuracy. I hope that you enjoy it.

Please share the article so that more people will understand this turbulent period of transition within the industry.

Thank you very much!


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Posted May 04 2014 - 07:16 PM

Brandon Conway was kind enough to supply DVD and Blu-ray release information for the films from that year.

 

Sometime in the next few days, I'm going to post a list here of the titles that are available and the aspect ratio.


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#3859 of 5509 OFFLINE   Steve Tannehill

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Posted May 04 2014 - 07:29 PM

Thanks, Bob, fantastic work as always. I'll read it as soon as I am on a larger screen than the iPhone!
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Posted May 04 2014 - 07:40 PM

Thank you, Steve. I look forward to your reaction.

 

Just to cover all bases, I've posted it on the Criterion forum and sent one via e-mail to Jeff Wells...


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