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#1 of 14 OFFLINE   Dave Moritz

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Posted March 16 2012 - 05:15 PM

I finally have a new/used receiver to update my old 12 year old Yamaha RX-V995. I picked up a Pioneer Elite SC-05 and now I need to seriously look into getting a sub woofer, finally! I wish I could afford a really nice one but for now I will have to settle for the best I can get in the $200 - $600 range. $600 is kinda pushing it but that has to be my max! I can not remember the model but Tannoy was recommended to me. Here are is a few I am looking at so far: Klipsch SW-112 12" Klipsch SW-450 10" Tannoy ? ?
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#2 of 14 OFFLINE   Robert_J

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Posted March 16 2012 - 07:36 PM

That's like saying I'd like a car in the $20,000 to $60,000 dollar range. There are a lot of choices in between. Narrow down your budget. How large of a sub can you live with? How large is the room? What are your goals (a little extra bass or floor shaking sound effects)? Look at the usual internet direct companies - SVS, Hsu, Elemental Designs, Epik, Rythmik Audio, etc. Stay away from most other brands. Klipsch makes great speakers but average subs for the money.

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Posted March 17 2012 - 12:24 AM

really need to know more about what speakers you have and what results your looking for. I am using an M&K 12" 75 watt sub and it works really well for me. My main speakers are full range and the sub is crossed over at 50 hz and it fills in nicely. I think it was about $400 when I got it. Also, last time I was at Best Buy, they had a lot of open box items, including several B&K small subs marked down from $899 to $499

#4 of 14 OFFLINE   Dave Moritz

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Posted March 17 2012 - 09:09 AM

As far as size goes I do not want anything smaller than a 10" woofer. They key thing I am looking for is smooth deep base that will sound good in a home theater system. I think a 12" woofer to 15" woofer would be optimal and would go better with my Altec Lancing Voice Of The Theater A-7's. Here is one of the subs I am looking at but I didn't have the model number when I was posting! Tannoy TS2.10 Sub Woofer Living Room is: 12' Wide X 22' Deep with standard 8' ceilings. I already have some mild normal base with the 15" woofers in the A-7's but I cut off some of the base via built in EQ in the Pioneer Elite CS-05 receiver. I am looking for smooth deep bass that I can feel! Bass to reinforce movies for the mostly! Range $300 to $500 with $600 being absolute max! I have heard of SVS and have been to someones home who owned an SVS sub woofer. I am not sure however if SVS is still putting out the product the where about 8 years ago? I find Best Buys to be very lacking in A/V gear and there customer service is horrible! I know M&K makes some nice speakers but do not think 75 watts on a sub is enough for me. I am still tweaking the A/V system and know I need to upgrade my center channel and rear channels at some point. Main Left & Right: Altec Lancing Voice Of The Theater A-7's Center: Polk CS100 Rear: Advent Marble Sub: None
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Posted March 17 2012 - 09:09 AM

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#6 of 14 OFFLINE   Dave Moritz

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Posted March 17 2012 - 09:11 AM

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Posted March 18 2012 - 01:57 PM

When I wrote "How large of a sub can you live with?" I meant enclosure size. Those Altecs are big and efficient so you need something similar. SVS is still putting out qreat subs. In fact, the quality of their drivers has improved since adding their current transducer engineer. He's one of my favorite sub designers. Are you willing to go with a large, DIY design? A good horn sub will keep up with your current speakers and keep the budget on the low end or your range. The downside is that it is big. Bigger than your current speakers big.

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Posted March 25 2012 - 05:22 AM

Since I am currently living with one of my parents till I can get back on my feet. I think it would be pushing it to place another really large cabinet in the room. The room is kinda crowded already so I am actually looking for a standard size sub woofer that gets good smooth deep bass. If I ever win the lottery then I will build a custom house with a large dedicated theater that could very well see dual 18" JBL pro sub woofers with external power amp from McIntosh. I will look at the current line up from SVS and see if anything is doable from the money stand point. That is my main restrictions right now is coming up with the money to buy the sub and other things. Sub Woofers I am currently looking at: Tannoy SVS Klipsch Please feel free to recommend a sub woofer including brand and model. I will be getting a new Bluray player from Denon next and then a sub woofer.
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Posted March 25 2012 - 06:51 AM

Sub Woofers I am currently looking at:

I don't know anything about Tannoy but I've never seen them mentioned in any forum discussion on subs. Besides SVS, look at: Epik Subwoofers Elemental Designs Hsu Research Emotiva Rythmik Audio

I am actually looking for a standard size sub woofer that gets good smooth deep bass

Remember that you can't get deep with a small cabinet without some type of massive amp and a lot of EQ behind it. Hoffman's Iron Law at work.

If I ever win the lottery then I will build a custom house with a large dedicated theater that could very well see dual 18" JBL pro sub woofers with external power amp from McIntosh.

JBL pro subs play loud, not deep. MacIntosh isn't designed for sub duties either. A custom cabinet with a pair of 18" TC Sounds LMS 5400's and a Lab Gruppen 240v (14,000w) amp is a lotto winning sub. Actually you can do that without winning the lottery. There's a guy on another forum with 4 of those cabinets (eight 18's total) and 4 LG clone amps (56,000w total power) in his house.

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Posted March 30 2012 - 05:47 PM

The Pro JBL's actually do get low and they can shake the hell out of things. Disneyland here in Anaheim, California that use to have a musical feature called Captain Eos that was a Michael Jackson attraction used at least 4 JBL 18" subs and the bass would shake the concrete columns outside. And as far as McIntosh not designed for sub duties, that am can basically handle anything you throw at them. Especially the mono block amps that are 1600w continuous @ 8 ohms with 3600w peak @ 8 ohms and have been rated down to .1 ohms! LG Clone Amps? I would not spend a dime on an amp that LG was behind to be totally honest as I hate everything that LG, I mean GOLDSTAR puts out. LG's HDTV flat panels have panel and power supply problems and there bluray players are horrible and one of the worst rated on the market. Is the guy with 8 18's have the 18's in the floor with dual quad woofers vented through dual floor vents? But the whole enclosure is built into the floor? I have yet to find any 8" subwoofer than can actually play deep, smooth and loud. Not a single solitary one! They just do not move enough air to do that in my honest opinion. I think one of the things many people have to watch out for is sub enclosures that are not properly reinforced and end up rattling. Will check out the brands you mentioned above! I have heard a SVS before and they have very good bass. Tannoy came highly recomended from someone I trust so that is one I am seriously looking at. I do want to save up and get my Denon Bluray player first and hopefully no later than May 4th. I hope to get alot of research done by May 4th so I can move on and start saving up for a good subwoofer. The sad part is I have never had a dedicated subwoofer in my A/V system.
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Posted April 02 2012 - 04:04 AM

You would be surprised at what you think is low until you start playing test tones or see the waterfall graphs of different movie scenes. What I thought was low was really 40hz or so. Until I went dual 15" sealed with no subsonic filter I didn't know what I was missing. Now I'm flat to 17hz with usable output at 12hz. That low you can't hear anything except the room rattles but you feel it. That tactile sensation is crazy. The only thing better is massive car audio system. A buddy of mine can hit mid 140's with a single 15. At 25hz that thing feels like a jackhammer in your chest. Sorry for the confusion. LG = Lab Gruppen. A Chinese company knocks them off and the 220v model puts out a solid 14,000w. The guy with the 18's uses normal, sealed cabinets. Once you get a great sub you will have to re-watch all of your movies.

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Posted April 16 2012 - 04:30 AM

I hear what you are saying on that, I know that you can only hear down to a certain point and then you can only feel the bass. I want powerful strong base that doesn't sound muddy or hollow and I want to be able to feel the bass when things explode. Top subwoofer currently on my list to buy is Tannoy ts 2.10 subwoofer Velodyne SC-15 15" Subwoofer Klipsch SW-112 Subwoofer SVS PB12-NSD In the end my budget will decide what I am able to get and I am not against picking up a pre owned subwoofer if I can get a really good one for a good price.
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Posted June 19 2012 - 04:22 AM

Things keep coming up so I got a temp subwoofer that I hope to upgrade in the near future. And the nice thing is I will use the one I just purchased later for my pc after I upgrade it and get some bookshelf speakers for my pc and hook up my Yamaha RX-V995 receiver to the pc. http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/
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