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#1 of 19 Jeff Stevenson

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Posted February 28 2012 - 04:15 AM

Hello All, Looking at upgrading my home theater and the last thing I need to pick out is the subwoofer. Don't really play music all that loud so really looking for something for TV/Movies. Right now these are the two I am thinking of: BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer http://www.amazon.co...30449139&sr=8-1 Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Monitor Series Powered Subwoofer http://www.amazon.co...30448337&sr=1-4 Don't really want to spend over $190 for a sub, would you get one of the above or is there another one I am missing? Thanks, Jeff

#2 of 19 John Garcia

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Posted February 28 2012 - 04:49 AM

Definitely cross the Polk off your list. I've owned it, and even at that price, it is just underpowered and has pretty much no extension at all. I'd say you are safe with the BIC. Here's another that might work as well on the budget front, though not so many reviews of it because it is a newer model from them: http://www.parts-exp...tnumber=300-629 And the previous model which is on closeout for even less: http://www.parts-exp...tnumber=300-635
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#3 of 19 Jeff Stevenson

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Posted February 28 2012 - 04:56 AM

Thanks for the heads up John on the Polk, now with the Daytons will I see a big difference between the newer and older model?

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:04 AM

The specs are very similar between the old and new, so I don't think the output or extension will be much different. I think the new model is more of a "refresher" than a redesign. Neither digs very low either, both are good to 25Hz, but in the price range that's par for the course. The BIC may have more peak power as far as I can tell (but also costs a bit more), so it may have a bit more output than the Daytons, but it also says 25Hz on the bottom end. The BIC has plenty of favorable reviews as well, which is why I say it is a safe bet. The Dayton subs are well known among the forum communities also when it comes to budget subs; aka had you not provided the BIC in your OP, it and the Daytons are what I would have recommended looking into :)
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#5 of 19 Jeff Stevenson

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:06 AM

Sorry if this is a dumb question but for watching movies/TV will the less peak power with the Daytons have a big impact?

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:14 AM

No, for TV, peak output won't make a ton of difference. Audio quality has definitely improved recently with broadcast TV, and Cable can be quite good, but I don't think there will be a difference that you'd say "woulda, shoulda coulda". To really step up in performance, you're going to have to spend more, so this is a good place to start.
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#7 of 19 Jeff Stevenson

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:21 AM

Thanks, I should have noted that my current system is a Panasonic SA-HT290 that I bought back in the early 90's so I am hoping this will be an improvement :)

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:26 AM

At your budget, I wouldn't think twice about buying that BIC. In fact, I can't even build a good sub for that price. Buy it and enjoy.

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:26 AM

All I could find were images, but I'd say any of these will be an improvement. They probably won't knock pictures off your wall, but they should add enough grunt on the bottom end to make things entertaining.
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#10 of 19 Jeff Stevenson

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:30 AM

Also I just saw this BIC as well: http://www.amazon.co...30453813&sr=1-8

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Posted February 28 2012 - 05:59 AM

And this: http://www.amazon.co...30455376&sr=8-1 They have a number of subs. Parts Express also carries all of the BIC gear, but Amazon's prices are better on some of them.
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Posted February 28 2012 - 06:07 AM

Well I just got off the phome with my wife, aka the boss, and I have a new budget of $150 total for the sub, with this new info what would you get?

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Posted February 28 2012 - 06:33 AM

Dayton Sub1200.
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Posted February 28 2012 - 03:12 PM

I recommend this: |http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290130 It's a Polk PSW-505 460W 12" NewEgg is currently out of stock on these, but they usually put them on sale for 199.00 plus free shipping. I have purchased all of my Polk home theater speakers from NewEgg, and have been very happy with them.
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Posted February 28 2012 - 03:23 PM

I vote Velodyne VX 11 (I MAY be biased.. :))

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Posted February 29 2012 - 04:36 AM

I recommend this: |http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290130 It's a Polk PSW-505 460W 12" NewEgg is currently out of stock on these, but they usually put them on sale for 199.00 plus free shipping. I have purchased all of my Polk home theater speakers from NewEgg, and have been very happy with them.

I vote Velodyne VX 11 (I MAY be biased.. :))

Neither of those seem to fit his under $150 budget in a quick check on the VX-11. I wouldn't recommend any of Polk's PSW subs personally.
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Posted March 01 2012 - 04:26 PM

I saw it for 159 on Amazon, close enough right..? :) Jeff, I would suggest saving up more, and buying a decent sub, instead of getting a entry level sub. I think it'll be better in the long run.

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Posted March 02 2012 - 07:45 AM

I saw it for 159 on Amazon, close enough right..? :) Jeff, I would suggest saving up more, and buying a decent sub, instead of getting a entry level sub. I think it'll be better in the long run.

May have been at the time you suggested, but I checked that day and they were $199.
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Posted March 02 2012 - 09:43 AM

http://www.amazon.co...1/dp/B002ZBJSIM But I still think he should save up for a better one.. :)