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Is the b&w era of TV on DVD slowly coming to an end?


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#1641 of 2308 Vic Pardo

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Posted July 02 2013 - 11:07 AM

I was in Barnes & Noble last night and on a whim I picked up a 4-disc box set of The Lone Ranger, from Classic Media, for $14.99. It was the one labeled on Amazon, "28 Thrilling Episodes." No indication on the DVD case of which episodes or which season. There was one color photo on the back with the b&w photos, so I was hoping that meant there would be some color episodes on there. When I got it home and opened the package, I was dismayed to see that there was no list of episodes anywhere in the package, so I had to pop in each disc to see the menu and then write down the episode titles. They were all from Season One, so no color episodes. And I could have gotten it for $9.99 on Amazon. Oh, well. At least they're not bootleg, like the Classic TV Westerns box set from Mill Creek, which has the only other Lone Ranger episodes in my collection (including the origin episode).



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Posted July 02 2013 - 03:44 PM

I was in Barnes & Noble last night and on a whim I picked up a 4-disc box set of The Lone Ranger, from Classic Media, for $14.99. It was the one labeled on Amazon, "28 Thrilling Episodes." No indication on the DVD case of which episodes or which season. There was one color photo on the back with the b&w photos, so I was hoping that meant there would be some color episodes on there. When I got it home and opened the package, I was dismayed to see that there was no list of episodes anywhere in the package, so I had to pop in each disc to see the menu and then write down the episode titles. They were all from Season One, so no color episodes. And I could have gotten it for $9.99 on Amazon. Oh, well. At least they're not bootleg, like the Classic TV Westerns box set from Mill Creek, which has the only other Lone Ranger episodes in my collection (including the origin episode).

Season sets from CM as a follow up to thier lavish box set would be nice .



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Posted July 02 2013 - 06:58 PM

Season sets from CM as a follow up to thier lavish box set would be nice .

That would be great!  I purchased the earlier CM set and as much as I'd like to own the final 3 seasons I don't want to double-dip to get them.  At this point I'm content to wait for either individual releases or the eventual fire sale to clearance out the mega-set.  I haven't even finished watching the first set yet and I've owned it for a couple of years.  Too much stuff and too little time...


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Posted July 03 2013 - 04:00 AM

Season sets from CM as a follow up to thier lavish box set would be nice .

 

What would be even nicer is if CM would have used  complete episodes with fresh transfers.  After reading comments in the Lone Ranger thread from an individual who bought the mega set this went to my do not purchase list unfortunately.   I noticed that the sets that my Costco got in for $99 have gone untouched so would expect to see this clearanced out at some point.  CM laid an egg with this in my opinion and they focused too much attention on style and not enough on substance.  The LR deserves better.


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Posted July 03 2013 - 05:43 AM

You listed quite a few of my favorites, Scott.  There are so, so many b/w shows that I absolutely love and can watch over and over.  Amongst the shows you mentioned the rewatchability factor is especially strong in The Fugitive, The Patty Duke Show, LITB, Perry Mason and The Rifleman.  I've yet to watch Dark Shadows, but that's only because I know how long-running a series it is and I don't won't to get hooked.  I've got too much on my plate as it is, but I have good friends that love the show and I know it's a great one.

 

 

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Posted July 03 2013 - 06:24 AM

Gary,

 

Those really are some wonderful shows.  I can't wait for The Rifleman to be released in its entirety on DVD.  I will cherish that release when it occurs! :)


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Posted July 03 2013 - 08:53 AM

What would be even nicer is if CM would have used  complete episodes with fresh transfers.  After reading comments in the Lone Ranger thread from an individual who bought the mega set this went to my do not purchase list unfortunately.   I noticed that the sets that my Costco got in for $99 have gone untouched so would expect to see this clearanced out at some point.  CM laid an egg with this in my opinion and they focused too much attention on style and not enough on substance.  The LR deserves better.

I agree, and don't forget the user "un-friendly" packaging on the CM set.


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Posted July 03 2013 - 04:48 PM

Gary "everyone's different, but for me there's nothing like 50's and early 60's television - I wouldn't trade them for any other decade or era of TV" O.

 

I know Gary hates me, but boy do I agree with that!  If you look through the TV listings up through about 1965 and compare them to now, it's like looking at two different Universes.  There was some junk back then, of course, but for the most part the shows of that era were more intelligent, decent, interesting, well made, and funny without resorting to "bodily function" humor.  What a pleasure to watch shows without hand-held cameras, dark lighting, mumbling actors, etc.

 

It's very sad to think that television got off to such a good start and how short that era was -- about fifteen years of programming that's not a total waste of time, followed by almost fifty years now of pretty much worthless junk, with very, very few exceptions.


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Posted July 03 2013 - 06:33 PM

I know Gary hates me, but boy do I agree with that! 

 

I'm always ready and willing to let bygones be bygones.  So allow me to humbly extend the proverbial olive branch to you.  :)

 

 

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Posted July 03 2013 - 07:09 PM

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I too would like to bury the hatchet from past skirmishes here, but only because Sony is paying me to bury the hatchet as a promotion for THE LONE RANGER. I understand it needs all the help it can get. ;)
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Posted July 03 2013 - 07:14 PM

I too would like to bury the hatchet from past skirmishes here, but only because Sony is paying me to bury the hatchet as a promotion for THE LONE RANGER. I understand it needs all the help it can get. ;)

 

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Posted July 03 2013 - 07:57 PM

I too would like to bury the hatchet from past skirmishes here, but only because Sony is paying me to bury the hatchet as a promotion for THE LONE RANGER. I understand it needs all the help it can get. ;)

 

My wife wanted to see the new movie and and so we went this afternoon. I chose to overlook the critics and hoped this would prove to be like the Robert Downey Jr. Sherlock Holmes series (faithful and respectful to the character and successful at creating a new generation of fans).

 

I was very, very mistaken. This was one of the worst movie going experiences I ever had. Sometimes a movie will leave you flat and you leave disappointed.....I left mad. Mad that I wasted 3 hours (2.5 for movie, .5 for commercials and previews) watching a movie portraying the LR as a really unlikeable wimp and the LR/Tonto relationship as antagonistic, even mean spirited at times. The story is all over the place and plays more like an Owen Wilson/Ben Stiller comedy than a re-telling of the LR legend. Finally I was mad because the TV series STILL isn't represented well on home video.

 

Clearly I'm not giving a thumbs up to this train wreck of a movie (no pun intended for those familar with it) :)

 

If you look through the TV listings up through about 1965 and compare them to now, it's like looking at two different Universes. There was some junk back then, of course, but for the most part the shows of that era were more intelligent, decent, interesting, well made, and funny without resorting to "bodily function" humor. What a pleasure to watch shows without hand-held cameras, dark lighting, mumbling actors, etc.

 

Agree wholeheartedly with Joe here. The writing on TV in the 60s in particular was top notch and holds up all these decades later. To be fair, there are some real gems in the 70s - 00s as well but it is hard to top the best of the 50s/60s. In my opinion the re-watchability of this era's shows tops anything since then.

 

Also, I'll echo the thoughts above and wish everyone a safe and happy 4th; may you spend it with your loved ones. Please remember our veterans, including those who fought 240 years ago to gain our independence and all those who have served since then to preserve it.


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Posted July 04 2013 - 07:19 AM

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I'm not mad at anyone here, and never was.  I appreciate the good wishes and return them.

 

Now on with the ranting!

 

"The Lone Ranger" is a perfect example of the difference between "then" and "now."  How lucky I was to grow up in an era when we were satisfied with simple, straightforward things.

 

Tonto was a guy dressed like an Indian, period.  In the new version, he looks like something out of a freak show from another planet.  Why does it have to be that way?  God forbid Johnny Depp shouldn't call attention to himself for his $40,000,000 payday.  (And could I think of better uses for that amount of money!)

 

Everything now has to be over the top. Something can't just be loud, it has to be deafening.  It can't be quiet, it has to be so far below the threshold of human hearing, it's inaudible.  It can't be risque, it has to be filthy.  It can't be fast moving, it has to be so fast it's incomprehensible.  It can't be slow, it has to be glacial.

 

As for violence, I don't like it at all, but in the older shows, someone would get shot and they'd fall down.  It was stupid, and maybe made people think violence wasn't so bad -- but it was better than now, where they linger over the violence and show all the blood and guts they can, and that's supposed to be "entertainment."

 

I honestly believe modern movies and television would make a visitor from another planet think that people are sick and stupid.  When I'm subjected to it by accident I want to run to my complete set of "Leave It to Beaver" as fast as possible.


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Posted July 04 2013 - 08:18 AM

I completely agree with Steve and Joe on this subject (but everyone already knew that).  :P

 

 

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Posted July 04 2013 - 11:31 AM

I completely agree with Steve and Joe on this subject (but everyone already knew that).  :P

 

 

Gary "I figured the new Lone Ranger movie was going to be garbage, but it's good to get confirmation from a trusted source like Steve" O.

My kids were wanting to see this, but they're familiar with the original series (my three teens have good taste!). I had a feeling it was garbage as well....nice to see the confirmation before I wasted money.


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Posted July 04 2013 - 12:33 PM


Everything now has to be over the top. Something can't just be loud, it has to be deafening.  It can't be quiet, it has to be so far below the threshold of human hearing, it's inaudible.  It can't be risque, it has to be filthy.  It can't be fast moving, it has to be so fast it's incomprehensible.  It can't be slow, it has to be glacial.

 

 

You have perfectly described the last (at least) 20 years of popular culture in this country. :thumbsup:


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Posted July 04 2013 - 02:06 PM

I just saw on Yahoo! News that "The Lone Ranger" isn't doing too well at the box office.  It might lose money.  How heartbreaking.  And they only spent $225,000,000 on it (that would probably have paid for 100,000 episodes of the TV series.)



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Posted July 04 2013 - 02:20 PM

Sorry to rain on your schadenfreude parade but that movie will make so much money internationally that it's US take almost doesn't matter.



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Posted July 04 2013 - 06:09 PM

I completely agree with Steve and Joe on this subject (but everyone already knew that).  :P

 

 

Gary "I figured the new Lone Ranger movie was going to be garbage, but it's good to get confirmation from a trusted source like Steve" O.

Ditto.  As soon as I saw "Tonto" I *knew* I'd probably hate the film and none of the few promos I've seen have done anything to change my initial reaction.  I *really* want the original series to be given the restoration it deserves and needs.


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Posted July 04 2013 - 06:12 PM

I'm not so sure about that. Yes, Johnny Depp is very popular internationally, but in an American western parody? I'm not expecting it to break records overseas either. It'll likely do better there than here, but with a $225 million price tag plus advertising here and over there, we're talking about at least $350 million overall costs meaning it would need a gross of $520 million to break even. I don't see that happening.






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