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The Mentalist- Season 4


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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   Spero D

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Posted September 22 2011 - 09:40 PM

Just saw the season opener. What a cop out. Just shows this show can't survive without the Red John subplot. And after such a strong Season finale last season. And jury nullification. Come on. Oh well. Maybe it was just me :confused:

#2 of 16 OFFLINE   Matt Hough

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Posted September 23 2011 - 08:48 AM

I thought it was going to turn out that Patrick had hypnotized the jury! Anyway, I agree. A big letdown.

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Posted September 23 2011 - 11:45 AM

Other than the very end of it, I thought it was pretty entertaining. The verdict in the trial was ridiculous, and yeah, the twist ending was ridiculous. Even if they wanted to keep Red John alive, I feel like it'd have been better if Jane started feeling closure from shooting Bradley Whitford's character, and then later on he got a message or warning from Red John. That being said, once they found that secret room, the MO didn't match Red John's at all, so maybe that wouldn't have worked.

#4 of 16 OFFLINE   Matt Hough

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Posted September 23 2011 - 02:23 PM

But what tipped Patrick off about the grieving widow that made him suspicious of her? She seemed utterly convincing in her devotion to her husband, but what led him to pull the key trick on her? Usually, he explains after the fact what made him go after someone who otherwise appears innocent, but unless I was out of the room for a moment, I never heard his reasons for suspecting her of something nefarious.

#5 of 16 OFFLINE   Joe_H

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Posted September 23 2011 - 03:36 PM

But what tipped Patrick off about the grieving widow that made him suspicious of her? She seemed utterly convincing in her devotion to her husband, but what led him to pull the key trick on her? Usually, he explains after the fact what made him go after someone who otherwise appears innocent, but unless I was out of the room for a moment, I never heard his reasons for suspecting her of something nefarious.

I'm not sure that he was suspicious of the widow herself, to be honest. It seemed to me more like he just wanted to plant a seed of doubt in her mind in order to see what secrets she would try to find after that, and then it turned out that she was involved.

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Posted September 24 2011 - 03:48 AM

One thing that bugged me a little was all the resistance to their investigation. I mean, if everyone is going to bring up the fact they don't have a warrant and then drop it after 30 seconds and let them do whatever they want anyway, it ends up being empty filler. I mean, what's the point of bringing it up if there isn't going to be a serious roadblock there?

#7 of 16 OFFLINE   NeilO

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Posted September 26 2011 - 11:51 AM

Why was there no further investigation into the death of the security guard? That bugged me. I thought that would have been mentioned again. I was wondering about the different MO with the girl, but I was thinking that this might have been the wife's hobby and Red John was indulging her. So until Jane said that "Carter" wasn't Red John, I thought he was going to be trying to dismantle Red John's surviving organization for the rest of the series. I think that would have still worked. Instead we are practically getting back to square one in that respect.

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Posted September 30 2011 - 04:20 PM

So any thoughts who Red John is? I think it could be two possible suspects... [SPOILER=Warning: Spoiler!]Either the old boss Virgil Minelli or the new boss Gale Bertram...But, my ultimate mind-screw is the Patrick Jane is Red John. He is so good at manipulating people and getting them to do his bidding. It would be very Fight Clubish. ;) [/SPOILER]
Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.

#9 of 16 OFFLINE   Steve_Pannell

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Posted October 01 2011 - 02:22 AM

So any thoughts who Red John is?

I don't care anymore. I feel a little like the greyhound that caught the fake rabbit at the dog track. I'll still watch but I won't be so quick to fall for the "Red" herrings. Todd, you may have to add a line to your "John Doe" signature (which I agree with, by the way) that says "Tell us who Red John is" if they end the series without resolving things. I wouldn't be surprised if they never tell us.

#10 of 16 OFFLINE   Matt Hough

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Posted October 01 2011 - 07:18 AM

I've always liked Reed Diamond's acting, so I was hopeful that he was going to be worked into the series at least on a recurring basis. I was a bit disappointed he had to be the scapegoat so Lisbon could get her team back.

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Posted October 01 2011 - 04:57 PM

Todd, your last suspect in your spoiler would be a real trick since Jane was plastic wrapped in a chair when Red John killed two or three people in Jane's presence. I'm not a big fan of shows misleading viewers and kind of felt like the show pulled a fast one with Carter. I suspect that the entire Red John situation will not be resolved into the series concludes and will be handling any future revelations with a rather large grain of salt. I still enjoy the show primarily because of Simon Baker, but am mildly disappointed with the storyline and the undoing of last season's finale. - Walter.
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#12 of 16 OFFLINE   Joe Bernardi

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Posted October 02 2011 - 01:10 AM

I don't care anymore. I feel a little like the greyhound that caught the fake rabbit at the dog track. I'll still watch but I won't be so quick to fall for the "Red" herrings.

I don't care anymore either. And I have stopped watching as a result.

#13 of 16 OFFLINE   Johnny Angell

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Posted October 08 2011 - 03:09 PM

The finale in the last season when Red John was "killed" always bothered me. It was just too easy to kill RJ. Once Jane was convinced, just pull a trigger and he's dead. The evil genius who has always been a least one step ahead of everyone got caught flatfooted like that? Still I was happy to drop the RJ storyline. The season opener just teemed with lazy writing. All in one episode Jane raises the money for bail and then gets exonerated by the Jury. I know this is not reality, but it was still too farfetched. Lazy writing. However, I like the character and the show. If it's as much fun as most of the episodes have been, I'll continue to watch. I just hope the season opener wasn't the moment when the show "jumped the shark."
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Posted October 12 2011 - 01:28 AM

I agree they could have dragged the jail time out for two or three episodes. Would have been interesting to see Jane solve cases from jail.
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#15 of 16 OFFLINE   Matt Hough

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Posted October 14 2011 - 08:48 AM

I thoroughly enjoyed the latest episode. True, the new boss may have been younger, but he was the usual standard-issue stubborn boss who must do things his way, but this looks to be a more good-natured foe for the team to cope with. I'll look forward to more episodes with him as a nemesis for the team.

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Posted November 15 2011 - 06:45 AM

He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!! Or is he???????
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