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#1 of 57 Bob Furmanek

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Posted August 31 2011 - 03:31 PM

Richard's excellent studio-by-studio breakdown of vintage 3-D product is a valuable tool. Please allow me to fill in some gaps. The following are the remaining titles from the Golden Age: 1952-1955 A DAY IN THE COUNTRY - Lippert short narrated by Joe Besser - 1953 - Preserved. COLLEGE CAPERS - Lippert short with Dolores Fuller - 1953 - ditto BANDIT ISLAND - Lippert short with Lon Chaney and Glenn Langan - 1953 - LOST. One side of the 3-D negative was cut for inclusion in the 1954 feature THE BIG CHASE. ROBOT MONSTER - Astor - 1953 - Survives. Condition of elements unknown. CAT WOMEN OF THE MOON - Astor - 1954 - ditto HANNAH LEE - Jack Broder Productions - 1953 - ditto BOO MOON - Paramount Casper cartoon, 1953 - Preserved THE ADVENTURES OF SAM SPACE - Filmed by Volcano Productions in 1953, released as SPACE ATTACK in 1960 by 20th Century Fox - Preserved. M.L. GUNZBERG PRESENTS THIRD DIMENSION - Arch Oboler - 1952 - Prologue to BWANA DEVIL - Preserved. ROCKY MARCIANO VS. JERSEY JOE WALCOTT - United Artists boxing newsreel, 1953 - Preserved. DOOM TOWN - 3-D Productions - Atomic bomb short - 1953 - Preserved. MOTOR RHYTHM - RKO 1953 (originally NEW DIMENSIONS - 1940) Preserved. STARDUST IN YOUR EYES - Al Zimbalist - 1953. Companion short to ROBOT MONSTER. Preserved. LOVE FOR SALE - Dan Sonney Productions burlesque short - 1953 - Preserved. I was founder of the 3-D Film Archive in 1991 and have been doing research and preservation work on the Golden Age material for over 25 years. While I don't have any information on the current status of elements at the various studios, I'll be happy to share any information or answer any questions that you may have. Bob Furmanek Vice President 3-D Film Preservation Fund http://www.3dfilmpf.org/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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#2 of 57 Richard--W

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Posted August 31 2011 - 07:04 PM

Thanks for taking the time to assemble this list. It's very useful. Most of these that do survive, I've seen at your Expos. The impact of your Expos on the industry-players in Los Angeles is still being felt, I think.

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Posted September 01 2011 - 12:27 AM

Great information and really fascinating to contemplate what might be assembled for home release one day.Thanks so much!



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Posted September 01 2011 - 01:47 PM

+1 to that - Some great information indeed. The 3-D Film Preservation Fund (and Bob's many pioneering efforts starting many years before the creation of the Preservation Fund) have saved many Golden Age 3-D titles from being lost to the ages. It's a very safe bet to say all of this work, combined with the previous World 3-D Expos, caused many of the studios re-examine their 3-D assets. ..And also helped educate many to the fine stereoscopic cinematography and production values that most of these titles offered. Bob, is there any one 3-D horror story that sticks out from a preservation / restoration standpoint?

#5 of 57 Bob Furmanek

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Posted September 02 2011 - 12:10 AM

Thank you for the nice words, it was truly a labor of love! Horror stories? So far as something that was lost, or something that I worked on?

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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#6 of 57 GregK

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Posted September 03 2011 - 04:39 AM

I was thinking something you had worked on. On a sidenote: Your interviews (showing the polarized filters) used in the "Creature From the Black Lagoon" DVDs were far better than what was done with the DVD for "Dial M". In the Dial M extra features, as someone thought it was original shown with red & blue colored filters. "Say what.....??" :-)

#7 of 57 Bob Furmanek

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Posted September 03 2011 - 05:17 AM

Thanks, Greg! I was sick as a dog the day we did those interviews for the CREATURE set. I'm glad it didn't show! Yes, I thought displaying the filters would make the point. I'm sorry to hear that the red/blue myth was repeated on the DIAL M set. Another myth on DIAL M is that it never played in 3-D in 1954. Not true, I've documented two play dates. I know that's not many, but one was the world premiere. There are several horror stories regarding restorations. The most tedious would have to be HANNAH LEE. Everything that could possibly be wrong happened with those prints with the worst sin being incorrect edge codes. Every 3-D feature of the 1950's had a set of numbers every 16 frames on the side of the print to indicate the side and footage point. For instance, L2549 would identify the left side, reel 2, 549 feet from the first frame. This was VERY useful if a print got damaged and the operator had to slug it with black film to keep it in sync. On HANNAH LEE, they not only got the numbers wrong between eyes, sometimes they marked left as right and visa versa. In that case, the only way to properly identify the reel was by eye, hunched over a light box comparing the parallax between prints with a magnifying loop. I had at least a dozen unidentified prints in my possession and still had trouble creating a complete left/right match. After screening the results at Expo 1 in 2003, Bob Burns commented that I had spent more time on syncing the prints than they did making the movie. He was probably right! Unfortunately, that's one film that will probably never see a full restoration. The current distributor has nearly 30 boxes of elements, mostly trims and separation masters. The only thing they could say for certain is they only have one camera negative. The copyright is in question and it's doubtful anybody would ever spend the money on a full blown preservation.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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Posted September 03 2011 - 06:48 AM

Bob, what's the status of Disney's Melody? I know a 2D version was included with the Fantasia Anthology in 2001, but do you know if both eyes are preserved?


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#9 of 57 Bob Furmanek

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Posted September 03 2011 - 07:03 AM

Yes, MELODY is completely preserved in the Disney vaults. The same with WORKING FOR PEANUTS. I'm not sure about 3-D JAMBOREE. The new print we struck in 2006 was from a fading negative. I don't know if they've done preservation on that one.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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Posted September 03 2011 - 07:53 PM

Here is a rare photo of Lon Chaney from the lost 3-D short, BANDIT ISLAND. Released by Lippert in September 1953, it was available in both dual-strip Polaroid or single strip anaglyph. http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/[URL=http://static.hometheaterforum.com/imgrepo/]http://static.hometheaterforum.com/imgrepo/ In 1954, most of the short was edited into the flat feature, THE BIG CHASE. We believe that one side of the original 3-D negative was cut and utilized for the feature. It has not been seen since its original release and no 3-D elements are known to exist.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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#11 of 57 Richard--W

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Posted September 03 2011 - 08:06 PM

The Big Chase doesn't survive, either?

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Posted September 03 2011 - 08:08 PM

The flat feature survives and was released on DVD by VCI/Kit Parker Films.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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#13 of 57 Richard V

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Posted September 22 2011 - 05:24 AM

What about Inferno from 1953, with Robert Ryan and Rhonda Fleming?
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#14 of 57 Bob Furmanek

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Posted September 22 2011 - 02:11 PM

INFERNO is fully restored visually but the stereo audio is gone.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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Posted September 24 2011 - 12:43 AM

Will the 3-D films from the 1950's be released on Blu-ray 3D in the full-frame 1.33:1 aspect ratio?

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Posted September 24 2011 - 12:46 AM

Yes, MELODY is completely preserved in the Disney vaults. The same with WORKING FOR PEANUTS. I'm not sure about 3-D JAMBOREE. The new print we struck in 2006 was from a fading negative. I don't know if they've done preservation on that one.

Working for Peanuts was show in 3-D with another Disney 3-D film a few years ago. I don't remember any 3-D effects coming out of the screen.

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Posted September 24 2011 - 05:09 AM

Will the 3-D films from the 1950's be released on Blu-ray 3D in the full-frame 1.33:1 aspect ratio?

Of the 50 domestic "Golden Age" features, approximately 20 are photographed and intended for 1.37. The rest were all composed for widescreen, ranging in aspect ratios from 1.66 up to 2.1.

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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Posted September 24 2011 - 11:24 AM

Of the 50 domestic "Golden Age" features, approximately 20 are photographed and intended for 1.37. The rest were all composed for widescreen, ranging in aspect ratios from 1.66 up to 2.1.

How were they shown at 3-D Expos? I saw Dial M for Murder in dual-projection 3-D at the NYC Film Forum and it looked like 1.33:1. I think these films look better in 3-D at the 1.33;1 ratio. I have House of Wax in 1.85: 1 and 1.33:1 on DVD and the 3-D looks a lot better in 1.33:1.

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Posted September 24 2011 - 11:49 AM

HOUSE OF WAX was not intended for widescreen so 1.37 is the correct ratio. DIAL M was intended for 1.85 and that is the way it should be seen. Most studios switched to widescreen cinematography in April/May of 1953. However, the films were all protected for 1.37 and that's the way they've been (incorrectly) presented ever since. Don't go by the way these films have been shown in revivals over the past 30 years. They've always been run 1.37 which is wrong. We ran some titles widescreen at Expo 2, including TAZA, SON OF COCHISE, DIAL M FOR MURDER, KISS ME KATE and REVENGE OF THE CREATURE. We would have run more but didn't have the correct documentation. This is not opinion. We have original, primary studio documentation and source materials to back up this information. Bob Furmanek 3-D FILM PRESERVATION FUND

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From Daily Variety, four days before the start of principal photography. This listing would remain

for over two months until the film wrapped production in late November 1954.

 

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#20 of 57 GregK

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Posted September 24 2011 - 05:57 PM

Bob pretty much nailed it - During this somewhat "murky" shift to widescreen, proper studio documentation and source materials are vital. When widescreen first came into vogue, yes - there were a few studios who suggested showing a couple features "cropped" when they were never composed or intended to be shown in such a manner. "It Came From Outer Space" fits into this category, when someone at the studio decided it was fine to be matted for widescreen if a theater chose to do so. But this was clearly composed for the 1.37 Academy ratio, and is supported as such by studio documentation. But these one or two exceptions aside, the studios were quick to formally adopt widescreen for future releases, and comprise a good number of the Golden Age 3-D features. These titles will have extra headroom at the top and bottom of the image, as they were intended and composed to be cropped for widescreen, and therefore have the best framing when viewed in their intended aspect ratio. I've seen most of the "shot for widescreen" Golden Age 3-D features in both full frame and in widescreen. The advantage of the intended widescreen ratio framing is clear, with tighter and better balanced shot compositions. Just as it is with standard 2-D material that has been composed for widescreen. We all of course want to view these features in their original intended aspect ratio. Thankfully people like Bob Furmanek and Jack Theakston have spent a good deal of time researching exactly which 3-D titles were intended for widescreen during this transitional period.




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