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#1 of 7 DrGerm

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Posted August 04 2011 - 04:19 PM

Hello, I am doing research to install a 7.1 system in a 14.5 x 13.5 room with 10 ft ceilings and hard wood flooring. I just figured out that the clearance from the side of the 60" TV I'm going to wall mount to a door frame at best is 12 inches (I don't have measurement yet, need to get access back to this house to measure again). It might only be like 3 inches (uggh). I had wanted to do in-wall speakers for the center, fronts, and sides with in-ceiling installation of the rear speakers. Since it's a possibility that I couldn't center everything on the desired wall the way I'd like, I was wondering if installing the front speakers in the ceiling would be any problem. I am primarily wanting to make sure I get the best quality experience I can squeeze out of my situation. The distance from the wall to the sitting position is 10 feet, which is the height of the ceilings. But, for some reason, I just think this might be an odd thing to do... Thanks!

#2 of 7 Wayne A. Pflughaupt

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Posted August 05 2011 - 08:05 AM

In-ceiling speakers are a really bad idea for the front channels. Imaging will be poor (i.e. pans and L/R separation), and there will be a significant loss of the high frequencies with the tweeters being so far off-axis from the listening position. I’m not sure if your goals of the “best quality experience” possible is tied more to the video side of the equation than the audio. To facilitate the latter, I’d suggest going with a smaller screen size that would better accommodate optimal speaker placement, which would ensure the best surround-sound experience. Regards, Wayne A. Pflughaupt
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#3 of 7 Jim Mcc

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Posted August 05 2011 - 10:14 AM

Is 12" the room left on both sides of the TV? Is there room above and/or below the TV for the speakers? Depending on these answers, you have a couple options. 1) Mount the 3 speakers above or below the TV. 2) Use just 2 front speakers above or below the TV. 3) Use a soundbar for the fronts. It's hard to picture the setup without a pic.

#4 of 7 DrGerm

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Posted August 05 2011 - 10:56 AM

Is 12" the room left on both sides of the TV? Is there room above and/or below the TV for the speakers? Depending on these answers, you have a couple options. 1) Mount the 3 speakers above or below the TV. 2) Use just 2 front speakers above or below the TV. 3) Use a soundbar for the fronts. It's hard to picture the setup without a pic.

Problem is I won't be able to go back to that house to re-measure for a couple weeks (haven't closed yet). Based on my measurements (because I failed to measure exactly where the door is on the wall in question... uggh...), I'll either have 3" or 12"... If 12" then, I'll offset placement a couple inches from center and it's all cool. That 3" or 12" is between the left side of the TV (anatomical left) and the edge of the door frame leading to a hallway. The other side would have plenty of room (like 4 or 5 feet). http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/ In case you're wondering, the other three walls are the same problem or worse due to another door (to a closet) and a HUGE window. So, I'm just stuck with the layout I've been given. Regarding the size of TV (Samsung UN60D8000), it's just the TV I have and need to figure out how to make everything work. After doing some other research, what I think I'll do is place a good soundbar directly beneath the TV. What was recommended to me is the Triad OnWall Mini LCR 3.0 SE. I have time to research this further before moving though. Thanks!

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Posted August 05 2011 - 10:59 AM

Sorry, This forum won't let me upload a pic, here is a link: https://lh3.googleus...2520Problem.png

#6 of 7 Adam Gregorich

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Posted August 05 2011 - 12:41 PM




Originally Posted by DrGerm 


This forum won't let me upload a pic, here is a link: https://lh3.googleus...2520Problem.png



Sorry Kevin, it was awaiting validation in our spam filter.



#7 of 7 DrGerm

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Posted August 05 2011 - 01:00 PM

Sorry Kevin, it was awaiting validation in our spam filter. 

 

Oh, and I thought it was because of my 1st grade drawing abilities on the diagram :D




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