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PHE Press Release: Friday The 13th: The Ultimate Collection


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#1 of 21 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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#2 of 21 OFFLINE   Kevin EK

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Posted July 27 2011 - 07:28 AM

Is there any new material here, or is this simply a compilation of the prior SE releases they've been doing over the last couple of years?

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Posted July 27 2011 - 08:27 AM

Is there any new material here, or is this simply a compilation of the prior SE releases they've been doing over the last couple of years?

It's a compilation. In terms of special features, I think these discs are as good as F13 is ever going to get. And when you consider that you'll be getting 8 movies for $30 or $25, I think it's easily worth it.

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Posted July 27 2011 - 08:39 AM

The price is good but I don't want to buy these movies again on DVD since I have done so many times in the past. Give them to me on Blu-ray or no sale.

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Posted July 27 2011 - 08:43 AM

The price is good but I don't want to buy these movies again on DVD since I have done so many times in the past. Give them to me on Blu-ray or no sale.

I was in the same boat up until about a month ago when I gave up waiting for the Blu-rays and picked up parts 4 to 8 between $4 and $6 each.

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Posted July 27 2011 - 08:48 AM

Yea, I noticed Amazon has them for pretty cheap.;)

#7 of 21 OFFLINE   Russell G

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Posted July 27 2011 - 10:13 AM

I'd prefer this on Blu. I might bite on this just to get the uncut ones since I bought that first set and never upgraded. I'm not losing sleep wanting to watch the series again, so maybe the blurays will come out before I buy this ha ha.

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Posted July 27 2011 - 10:25 AM

Are they kidding with this?? Where are the rest of the BLU-RAYS already?? Like Travis, I was waiting for Blu-rays of 4-8 forever, but I eventually caved in and boughts 4,5,6,7, and 8 for only $5.00 each on regular DVD at BIG LOTS about a year a ago. I bought them just to get the EXTRA FEATURES. FRIDAY THE 13TH has a big audience -- can anyone figure out why they're not releasing 4-8 on Blu-ray instead of re-issuing these things over and over on standard DVD?

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Posted July 28 2011 - 05:19 AM

Your guess is as good as mine. This is the equivalent of releasing a fancy boxset on VHS seven years after DVDs are introduced. Very strange.
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Posted July 28 2011 - 05:21 AM

As much as I don't like it, the answer as to why there's no Blu-ray set is obvious- the first three Blu-rays didn't sell as well as they wanted. If they had, the other 5 would be available.

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Posted July 28 2011 - 05:41 AM

As much as I don't like it, the answer as to why there's no Blu-ray set is obvious- the first three Blu-rays didn't sell as well as they wanted. If they had, the other 5 would be available.

I don't buy that (no pun intended). The Friday the 13th series is definitely a top moneymaker for the studio, as evidenced by the endless sequels and subsequent endless home video releases. This is just as baffling as their decision to stop releasing Family Ties two seasons short. Maybe they're holding out for a tie-in to the next installment, who knows.
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Posted July 29 2011 - 01:44 AM

I don't buy that either. It's silly. People love to say "Because it didn't sell!!" at the drop of a hat., for everything. It's a pointless catchphrase that's always used when there's nothing else to say. We heard the reason that ISLAND OF LOST SOULS hadn't ever come out on DVD was because "the old VHS tape did not sell" ... and yet here we are, getting IOLS.. on Criterion... and not only DVD, but BLU-RAY, no less! ALL IN THE FAMILY was halted on Sony DVD "because it didn't sell well" --- and then, whaddaya know, SHOUT steps in and releases seasons 7,8, and 9 like wildfire! So people who already have all these FRIDAY THE 13TH movies on regular DVDs are going to re-re-re-buy them all again on this new ULTIMATE COLLECTION? When the same people always saying what "doesn't sell" are the first to claim that DVD itself is dead?? How in the world can re-re-re-re-leasing the F13 movies on DVD again be a "good moneymaking proposition"? I'm sure we'll get all the Blu-rays at some point. There is a reason they're holding off, but it can't be because DVDs are "selling better the fourth time around", or because "nobody wants the Blu-rays, the first 3 didn't sell"

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Posted July 29 2011 - 03:56 AM

I don't buy that either. It's silly. People love to say "Because it didn't sell!!" at the drop of a hat., for everything. It's a pointless catchphrase that's always used when there's nothing else to say.

Common sense is a meaningless catchphrase? If you don't think that sales determine future releases then you're essentially saying that a corporation (which I think we can all agree wants to make as much money as it possibly can) is deliberately holding back a product that can make them money. What possible reason do they have for not wanting to make money? I'm not saying that Paramount's sales expectations for the first 3 blu-rays were reasonable but if they had been met, the rest would have come out. I don't like that the rest of the movies aren't on Blu-ray but it's just simple logic that sales are a big part of if there are or aren't future releases.

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Posted July 29 2011 - 05:57 AM

It would be nice to get these on Blu-ray.  They could do this set as a limited edition on Blu-ray and they wouldn't have to make that many, and if the run sells out then maybe do a second pressing.  I'll probably get this even though I do have the Blu-rays of 1-3, because I have the old Crystal to Manhattan set with 2 movies per disc and I wouldn't mind getting a bump in quality since I'm not sure if Blu-rays are in the future.  Plus I've got a huge Friday weakness.

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Posted July 29 2011 - 06:40 AM

How in the world can re-re-re-re-leasing the F13 movies on DVD again be a "good moneymaking proposition"?"

It gets them shelf space and notice that they wouldn't otherwise get and it probably doesn't cost much of anything. It may also be that the existing transfers aren't up to snuff for a blu-ray release and Paramount estimates that potential sales won't provide enough of a profit to justify making new ones.
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Posted July 29 2011 - 07:04 AM

Common sense is a meaningless catchphrase? If you don't think that sales determine future releases then you're essentially saying that a corporation (which I think we can all agree wants to make as much money as it possibly can) is deliberately holding back a product that can make them money. What possible reason do they have for not wanting to make money? I'm not saying that Paramount's sales expectations for the first 3 blu-rays were reasonable but if they had been met, the rest would have come out. I don't like that the rest of the movies aren't on Blu-ray but it's just simple logic that sales are a big part of if there are or aren't future releases.

But you're just making an assumption as though it's a fact ("Oh, since they didn't release the other Blu-rays yet, the first three definitely did not sell well enough"). You don't know that, and neither do I... but it's the first "moral" that always comes up any time something is not released! Did you not read the examples I provided with ISLAND OF LOST SOULS and ALL IN THE FAMILY? Everyone was so positive they'd never get released too, weren't they? I'll bet you the remaining Blu-rays are issued in 2012 or 2013. "What reason do they have for holding back?" -- I don't know, but obviously THEY do. That's also a marketing strategy too at times, you know.

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Posted July 29 2011 - 07:59 AM

But you're just making an assumption as though it's a fact ("Oh, since they didn't release the other Blu-rays yet, the first three definitely did not sell well enough"). You don't know that, and neither do I... but it's the first "moral" that always comes up any time something is not released! Did you not read the examples I provided with ISLAND OF LOST SOULS and ALL IN THE FAMILY? Everyone was so positive they'd never get released too, weren't they? I'll bet you the remaining Blu-rays are issued in 2012 or 2013. "What reason do they have for holding back?" -- I don't know, but obviously THEY do. That's also a marketing strategy too at times, you know.

I am making an assumption but it's a logical one to make. If the first three had sold well, Paramount wouldn't have let the video release of the remake and the last two (and now three) Octobers go by without releasing the other sequels on Blu-rays. That being said, I do think that they will see the light of day at some point but Paramount's expectation of sales is the only logical reason for it being nearly 2 and a half years since there was a F13 Blu-ray. I read your examples of All In The Family and Island Of Lost Souls but neither prove your point at all. Both were licensed out from mega corporations (Sony and Universal) to much smaller companies (Shout and Criterion) who have much smaller sales expectations. The studios 'unloaded' them on to independents since they weren't doing enough for them to really care about their release.

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Posted July 29 2011 - 09:06 AM

Travis -- the hilarious part is when you point out how ISLAND OF LOST SOULS and ALL IN THE FAMILY got licensed out to smaller companies. It's true, of course, but what's funny to me is how these HUGE, MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR corporations are supposedly worried about "losing money", yet there's no problem at all for smaller mom and pop outfits to get them right out! It's always humorous to me how the big moguls think they'll go broke or something for taking a little hit. Let me put it another way... I didn't get a computer until the year 2000. Once I got online, all I ever heard was "This won't sell!", "That does not sell!", "That was put out before but did not sell!" (or whatever other variation you want to toss in there). AND YET --- here we are, some 11 years later, and practically EVERYTHING they were saying "won't be out because it won't sell" ---- has come out! >>>>Both were licensed out from mega corporations (Sony and Universal) to much smaller companies (Shout and Criterion) who have much smaller sales expectations. The studios 'unloaded' them on to independents since they weren't doing enough for them to really care about their release<<<< Well, that proves what I've always said -- it's not that these things "don't sell".. it's that these billionaires only are satisfied with the Big Bucks! It's like the old joke where the Three Stooges are counting the millions of dollars they've found, and as they're counting they come across a $50 dollar bill and say "How did that get in here?", and they throw it away! It's greed.

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Posted July 29 2011 - 10:26 AM

Travis -- the hilarious part is when you point out how ISLAND OF LOST SOULS and ALL IN THE FAMILY got licensed out to smaller companies. It's true, of course, but what's funny to me is how these HUGE, MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR corporations are supposedly worried about "losing money", yet there's no problem at all for smaller mom and pop outfits to get them right out! It's always humorous to me how the big moguls think they'll go broke or something for taking a little hit.

That's why I should always try to refer to it as "not meeting the company's sales expectations" rather than "poor sales". I'm sure any independent label would be ecstatic to get a title as popular as Friday The 13th but it's apparently not even worth the time of Paramount right now.

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Posted July 29 2011 - 01:54 PM

I noticed that Part III, like the previously released DVD, doesn't contain the extras that were present on the BD.


So, in this so-called 'Ultimate Collection', buyers will be missing, for example, Lost Tales from Camp Blood III. Doesn't sound very 'ultimate' to me...