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Vivendi and RHI Press Release: Laurel & Hardy: The Essential Collection


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#561 of 604 OFFLINE   Ejanss

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Posted November 07 2013 - 09:17 PM

And I know it must have been posted at some point in the last seven years, either here or on the YouTube thread, but I know I'm not the only one who can't read a Laurel & Hardy thread without flashing back on the hallowed old YouTube classics:

 

 

There's just something about that that never gets old.  :D



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Posted November 07 2013 - 10:53 PM

Heck, they can dance to any tune available in this scene, like Billie Jean by Michael Jackson or Rockwell's Phone Calls and such...how the hell did I even remember that?!



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Posted November 08 2013 - 01:32 PM

Even with the dreadful Agee mishandling of these, I don't think there was any real danger of losing quality film elements of these.  We forget that the European license holders have their own prints that they used for the European DVD sets and possibly have found better prints over the years.  The loss of nitrates is certainly bad news, but as long as quality elements remain (and in competent hands), it shouldn't be a mortal blow for the future of their silent classics.



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Posted November 18 2013 - 09:50 PM

UCLA is undertaking the restoration of most of the Hal Roach library.

Not to stray too far from the topic, but I hope this means we might also see ONE MILLION B.C. at some point...



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Posted November 18 2013 - 10:02 PM

Don't know who owns the Roach features -- they could well be part of the Turner package and may well reside with MGM.

 

I still have the laserdisc of this movie and it has fantastic special effects and editing, including plenty of real life lizards wrestling around, the 'dinosaurs' in this movie (these scenes ended up as stock footage in numerous movies over the years, notably in "Robot Monster"), plus it lauched the career of Carole Landis -- and even though the movie's credited director was Hal Roach himself, legend has it that D.W Griffith directed most of it.

 

I much prefer this version than the 1966 remake (Raquel Welch and Ray Harryhausen withstanding)



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Posted November 19 2013 - 05:48 AM

Don't know who owns the Roach features -- they could well be part of the Turner package and may well reside with MGM.

I still have the laserdisc of this movie and it has fantastic special effects and editing, including plenty of real life lizards wrestling around, the 'dinosaurs' in this movie (these scenes ended up as stock footage in numerous movies over the years, notably in "Robot Monster"), plus it lauched the career of Carole Landis -- and even though the movie's credited director was Hal Roach himself, legend has it that D.W Griffith directed most of it.

I much prefer this version than the 1966 remake (Raquel Welch and Ray Harryhausen withstanding)


The rights of films that have not moved into public domain are all over the place. The Hal Roach estate own some, especially the streamlines. King World, now CBS owns a few, Republic, now Paramount owns a few, etc. Then there are the individuals like Agee that own some also. The library is a mess of ownership.
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Posted November 26 2013 - 07:10 PM

$39.99 at Amazon right now!!!


...retired at last...and Ray Harryhausen at my side!!!

 

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Posted November 26 2013 - 09:05 PM

Not a bad deal for the set but hoping it goes down a tad more.



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Posted November 26 2013 - 10:22 PM

Don't know who owns the Roach features -- they could well be part of the Turner package and may well reside with MGM.

 

From what I got from the WAC reps, they've already released every Hal Roach film that WB has the rights to with the sole exception of General Spanky.  Outside of the two L&H films, they really only have the rights to two other Roach films, Nobody's Baby and Pick a Star.

 

Regarding One Million B.C., I think that one is still with the same company that owns the sound L&H and Our Gang shorts.  It used to be called RHI Entertainment, but apparently they changed their name in recent years (or were bought out by) a company called Sonar Entertainment.

 

Their holding page for One Million B.C. is here

 

http://sonarent.com/.../one-million-bc

 

It seems that Sonar Entertainment holds the lion's share of the Roach features and (sound) short subjects that are still under copyright, including the Topper films (browse their film catalog and narrow down the genre to "vintage").  Hopefully another company can license some of these for home video like Vivendi did with L&H and Our Gang.


Edited by JoHud, November 26 2013 - 10:23 PM.


#570 of 604 OFFLINE   Tony Bensley

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Posted December 02 2013 - 05:18 PM

The Essential Collection is currently listed on U.S. Amazon at $39.99. Let's hope this isn't followed by yet another Pre-Yuletide pulling of this title by Amazon that has occurred two years running!

Here is the link for it:
http://www.amazon.co...Wooden Soldiers

CHEERS!


Edited by Tony Bensley, December 02 2013 - 05:18 PM.


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Posted December 04 2013 - 09:42 AM

At 3:00 E.S.T. or so today, there will be a lightning deal on Amazon selling this for $32.49.


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Posted December 04 2013 - 08:15 PM

If you can get it at that price, GRAB IT!



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Posted December 09 2013 - 01:22 PM

As of this posting, U.S. Amazon's price for The Essential Collection is back up in the $63 range.  Let's just hope that they don't pull it off of their listings as they've done the two previous Decembers!

 

CHEERS!

 

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Edited by Tony Bensley, December 09 2013 - 01:24 PM.


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Posted December 27 2013 - 07:06 PM

The Essential Collection can be currently had at U.S. Amazon for $34.49.

 

Here is the link for it:

http://www.amazon.co...tial collection

 

CHEERS!

 

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#575 of 604 OFFLINE   David Steigman

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Posted December 28 2013 - 08:17 AM

I decided to finally get this. I still have the UK set but may retire it. From what I have read about the USA set vs the UK set

1) the US set has the shorts/movies in the order in which they came out, chronological order 

2)The US set has better PQ overall with longer versions(?) of the films

3)It does not have the early silent shorts or colorized versions that the UK versions offer (I wouldnt watch them colorized anyway)

4)The packaging seems to be hit or miss with different people on the USA set 

Is this all correct and is there is anything else I should know, other tidbits that anyone could share...Im considering retiring the huge UK set. Ive read reviews , Ive read this thread...its a lot to absorb and maybe I missed something ..



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Posted December 29 2013 - 10:07 AM

Among other things, original titles are restored in the American set and there will be no PAL speed up.

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Posted December 29 2013 - 11:27 PM

The UK set has a good bonus disc with that has a superior transfer of the original edition of Brats among other misc Roach material.  I currently have both, keeping the UK set around for the silents.



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Posted December 30 2013 - 08:04 AM

Do you mean the USA set has a good bonus disc which is # 10 ?



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Posted December 30 2013 - 12:38 PM

Do you mean the USA set has a good bonus disc which is # 10 ?

Hi David!

 

Both sets have their own Bonus Disc, each with completely different titles.  Although I don't actually own the UK Universal Collection, I am sufficiently aware of details regarding it to offer up a few reasons as to why you may not want to retire this collection as yet:

 

1.  As you've mentioned in a previous post, the Essential Collection does not, for legal reasons, include any of the Laurel & Hardy Silents.  Nor can they be currently obtained at anything resembling a reasonable price!  Just check Amazon for your UK Set and the Lost Films Of Laurel & Hardy Volumes, and you will see what I mean!

 

2.  While the vast majority of the Hal Roach sound titles look just as good or better on The Essential Collection, there are a few notable exceptions.  SONS OF THE DESERT for instance, has some rather funky contrast issues, and actually looks rather terrible in spots.  The best version I've seen of SOTD is the out of print German Kinowelt PAL DVD.  While I don't care for the 4% speedup, I must concede that the much superior video quality (Not to mention no missing bits or Audio/Visual Sync Issues, unlike the UK Universal version!) is worth it, in this case!

 

3.  If closed captioning holds any importance in your case, it should be noted that, while the Phonetic Foreign Language Films have English Subtitles, the English Language Films on the Essential Collection don't have either Subtitles or Captioning, while the opposite is true on the UK Universal Set!

 

In closing, my recommendation is to enjoy the marvelous (In my opinion!) Essential Collection, but hang onto your UK Universal Set, at least until a reasonably priced Laurel & Hardy Team Silents Collection becomes available (Whenever that may be?) in Region 1!

 

CHEERS!

 

Tony



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Posted January 12 2014 - 09:26 PM

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I was talking with David Shepard today and he informed me that the home video rights to the SILENT Laurel & Hardy Films are now owned by CORINTH FILMS.
Corinth does market their product on DVD!

Michael Agee is out of it.

 

David also assures me that he has safety fine grains on the Laurel & Hardy Silent films stored at UCLA.


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