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#1 of 26 PatH

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Posted June 05 2011 - 03:16 PM

I'll take a backseat to no one in my admiration for the L&O franchise in whatever flavor, but has anyone been watching the current season of CI on USA?  I'm ecstatic that Goren and Eames are back; I thought their exit after season eight was handled poorly.  Now they're back in a return which was no less sketchy.  Jay O. Sanders' character has that much pull?  And every episode is truncated so we can have a big psychoanalysis scene with Julia Ormand?  That's lame; the only way it would be even remotely interesting is if in the final episode she rips off her disguise and reveals herself to be Nicole Wallace.  Yeah, I know she's "dead", but in TV and comic books no one dies if the writers are good enough and Goren has caught that hack Medical Examiner Rodgers in several errors already.  Even if they don't do that, the Ormand sequences are seriously bad.


Now, on to SVU.  I fear we're seeing the last year upcoming.  Meloni's departure, while no disaster for a franchise that has seen many cast changes (and I'm speaking of the L&O franchise in general), may tempt the writers to cut with a meat axe instead of a scalpel.  I see no reason to lose Cragan, Munch, or Finn.  My only regret is that I won't get to see either Stabler or Benson get any kind of discipline for their often high handed methods beyond a stern lecture by Cragan, who then has to get it in the neck from One PP.  In Benson's case, this regrettably mirrors real life, as apparently she's being kicked upstairs to facilitate Mariska's reduced schedule.


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#2 of 26 Matt Hough

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Posted June 06 2011 - 12:50 AM

Goran and Eames began the CI series and were always my favorites even when they began alternating with Chris Noth. I skipped the entire season with Jeff Goldblum. I am watching all of these last episodes and enjoying them so far.



#3 of 26 Patrick_S

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Posted June 06 2011 - 11:30 AM

I have always liked this franchise and I have to disagree with the original post concerning the therapy sessions. They are interesting and they are obviously very important to the eventual end of the series this year.


I guess I'll be in the minority in that I also enjoy Jeff Goldblum's run on the show.







#4 of 26 xfile94

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Posted June 06 2011 - 11:43 AM

I have nothing against Jeff Goldblum but Saffron Burrows???? She is the worst actress I have ever seen. I wish someone would explain her appeal to me. I just read that another show had fired her. At least the original people are there now, that's really all that matters!



#5 of 26 Aaron Silverman

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Posted June 08 2011 - 06:45 AM

I wouldn't be sad to see an increased focus on Munch and Finn.


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Posted June 11 2011 - 08:47 AM

Law and Order is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.


I gave up on SVU with that stupid CSU tech turned serial killer contrivance.


L&O: LA has been decent. It has a noticeable gore factor I don't recall the others having. I like the return of Connie Rubirosa for obvious reasons. :)

I too enjoyed the Jeff Goldblum run on CI. Julia Ormond hasn't been on the radar for awhile, so it's nice to see her again.



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Posted June 12 2011 - 03:08 AM



Originally Posted by PatH 
Now, on to SVU.  I fear we're seeing the last year upcoming.  Meloni's departure, while no disaster for a franchise that has seen many cast changes (and I'm speaking of the L&O franchise in general), may tempt the writers to cut with a meat axe instead of a scalpel.  I see no reason to lose Cragan, Munch, or Finn. 
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It appears that the producers are hoping for more than one more year as they just signed Ice-T for another two years.


I’m disappointed that Meloni is leaving but in the world of Law & Order it happens.






#8 of 26 Matt Hough

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Posted June 12 2011 - 08:25 AM

I don't blame Meloni for leaving. After 12 seasons, the show has made him financially secure for life, and at age 50, there is still time to pursue other projects which doing a weekly series prevents him from doing. As a very talented actor, I'm sure he'd like to explore lots of different parts now, and I hope he can find some roles that really give him more opportunities to show his versatility.



#9 of 26 PatH

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Posted June 12 2011 - 08:53 AM

Now, let's hope the producers re-sign Munch and Cragan and provide a decent reason for Stabler's leaving.


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#10 of 26 Patrick_S

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Posted June 12 2011 - 09:19 AM

I wasn't blaming him, I understand completely that he wants to try other things. When series run as long as SVU has people are going to come and go.






#11 of 26 Walter C

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Posted June 12 2011 - 04:09 PM

I haven't watched SVU for a while, but I thought it was unusual that SVU had all of its original cast members stay on the show that long, unlike the other ones. But with the contract thing coming up, the only surprising thing was that only one of them left, but not both.


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#12 of 26 Matt Hough

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Posted June 13 2011 - 12:33 AM



Originally Posted by Walter C 

I haven't watched SVU for a while, but I thought it was unusual that SVU had all of its original cast members stay on the show that long, unlike the other ones. But with the contract thing coming up, the only surprising thing was that only one of them left, but not both.



Well, actually, there had been some cast retooling from season one. Many people forget that Dean Winters was part of the original group of detectives, but his brain-dead character was written out during the first season. Michelle Hurd''s detective character also only lasted a season or so. Ice-T didn't come in until season two as I recall.




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Posted June 13 2011 - 12:54 AM

I was thinking in terms of the credited original cast, which was Meloni, Hargitay, Belzer, and Florek. And they were the only ones on the DVD menu and cover, if I remember.



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Posted June 13 2011 - 09:28 PM

amazing show guys, i love to watch it..



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Posted June 14 2011 - 04:38 PM

Call me slow, just realized Los Angeles got cancelled.
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#16 of 26 Patrick_S

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Posted June 27 2011 - 05:21 AM

I enjoyed the final season of CI and I’m glad they left it open ended (not everything needs to have a closed ending) but with clear indications that Goren was moving in the right direction personally. They could easily have a movie special anytime in the future if they wanted.


As for L&O LA, I actually like the show and am sorry to see it go. What I find interesting is that NBC is now burning off the episodes it shelved in order to do the reboot and I have to say many of them have been very good. In fact they have been so good it is a shame they did the reboot at all. It’s too bad that NBC just didn’t allow a full season of the show to air to see if it could find a larger audience.



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Posted June 27 2011 - 08:10 AM

It's a damn shame CI is off the air.  There really isn't this kind of old school Holmesian procedural on the air -- now it's all CSI based stuff.



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Posted June 27 2011 - 08:37 AM

I'm going to miss CI, too. Glad the ending was open-ended so that if and when Dick Wolf decides he wants to go to the CI well again, he can.



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Posted June 28 2011 - 03:08 AM

CI and the original Jerry Orbach L&O were my favorites of the brand.  I'll miss Goren's strange postures and knowledge of arcane matters.



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Posted June 28 2011 - 04:48 PM

As I've said many times, M. E. Rogers--and overall, I like the character--is just incompetent enough (Bobby caught her again in the last ep) that they should have brought back Nicole Wallis at some point in these last episodes (it's hardly a season unless we're in Britain). I hope Wolfe does find a way to dip into the CI well again, though it looks as though if he does we'll be stuck with the drama-halting presence of Bobby's visits to his shrink. PatH




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