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Why has Warner Archives stopped putting out 70's, 80's & 90's stuff?


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#1 of 28 MOOSETVTV

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Posted March 08 2011 - 05:23 PM

It's now Mar. 8th, 2011 and Warner Archives, for the third time in a row, has released OLD movies and bad Hanna-Barbera cartoons....and NOTHING from the 70s, 80s and 90s. No comedies or action movies or dramas...maybe a western, but none of the other things. Why? Why are they seemingly narrow-casting toward movies from the 20's/30's/40's suddenly? Can anyone explain this?



#2 of 28 Bob Cashill

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Posted March 08 2011 - 05:58 PM

THE NIGHT DIGGER and WILD ROVERS made it in. I'm not sure if there is an answer but the wheel comes around eventually, and if this spin brings THE MERRY WIDOW I'm not complaining.

Wait: In a few weeks someone will post, "Why is there NOTHING from the 20s, 30s, and 40s?" Posted Image



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Posted March 09 2011 - 12:39 AM

Those "bad" Hanna barbera cartoons you are referring to are actually selling quite well at the archive from what I hear.
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Posted March 09 2011 - 12:58 AM

I have no idea when they were released but I was pleasantly surprised to find The Outfit and Strange New World at Kim's Video, two of my fav 70's flicks, on the Archive label. They charge full price but it's the only B&M that carries the Archive titles in NYC. They have tons of 70's stuff.

 

 


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Posted March 09 2011 - 01:25 AM



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Originally Posted by MOOSETVTV 

It's now Mar. 8th, 2011 and Warner Archives, for the third time in a row, has released OLD movies and bad Hanna-Barbera cartoons....and NOTHING from the 70s, 80s and 90s. No comedies or action movies or dramas...maybe a western, but none of the other things. Why? Why are they seemingly narrow-casting toward movies from the 20's/30's/40's suddenly? Can anyone explain this?


I have been wondering the exact same thing. There was that week last year where they were releasing a bunch of movies from the 70's and 80's and then... nothing. Personally, I would like to see them start a bunch of classic tv series releases by season. If they can do it for the cartoons, they sure can do it for 30 minute sitcoms.




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Posted March 09 2011 - 06:15 AM



Originally Posted by MOOSETVTV 

It's now Mar. 8th, 2011 and Warner Archives, for the third time in a row, has released OLD movies and bad Hanna-Barbera cartoons....and NOTHING from the 70s, 80s and 90s. No comedies or action movies or dramas...maybe a western, but none of the other things. Why? Why are they seemingly narrow-casting toward movies from the 20's/30's/40's suddenly? Can anyone explain this?


Just a guess but I suspect that the films from the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s do very well for them. Personally, I very rarely purchase their 80s titles and never anything beyond the 80s.




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Posted March 09 2011 - 07:18 AM

Last week's DAYS OF GLORY (1944) makes five Jacques Tourneur films so for from the WA . . . while films from all decades and genres are welcome, it really is older, more obscure films by directors I admire, that makes these MOD programs important to me.



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Posted March 09 2011 - 11:05 AM

You have to wonder if marketing research is showing Archive demographics to be of  a certain type and age. No offense.Posted Image



#9 of 28 Bob Cashill

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Posted March 09 2011 - 11:18 AM

How much from the 80s and 90s is in there to be extracted? I can think of a few titles (like the promised FOURTH PROTOCOL)--what's everyone waiting for?



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Posted March 09 2011 - 03:05 PM

Not sure about the 80s, but from the 90s there is:


Impulse (1990)
Act of Piracy (1990)
The Rainbow Thief (1990)

Street Justice (1990)

Born to Ride (1991)
Until the End of the World (1991)
Hurricane Smith (1992)
Christopher Columbus: The Discovery (1992)

That Night (1992)
Heart of Darkness (1993)

Reckless Kelly (1993)

The New Age (1994)

Rapa Nui (1994)

Second Best (1994)
Bodily Harm (1995)

Deceptions II: Edge of Deception (1995)
For Better or Worse (1995)

Kleptomania (1995)

Sweet Nothing (1995)
The Run of the Country (1995)
Suburbia (1996)
Some Mother's Son (1996)

Leo Tolstoy's Anna Karenina (1997)

The Proprietor (1997)


Plus some cult genre titles:


Midnight Cabaret (1990)

The Granny (1995)

Last Gasp (1995)

The Outpost (1995)


There's probably more though.



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Posted March 09 2011 - 03:46 PM

Yeah, I'd rather have CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS: THE DISCOVERY than THE MERRY WIDOW Posted Image...but seriously it may be that in some cases the rights are up in the air, or who knows why? In any case the intent is to empty the vaults, so patience, no pushing, BODILY HARM fans, let Erich von Stroheim through the door first...



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Posted March 09 2011 - 04:11 PM

I think in general you'll see more films from the 30s and 40s because the sheer number of films in their library from the height of the studio era far outweigh number of films from the 70s, 80s and 90s. I'm not sure what the exact breakdown is in Warner's overall library, but really I'd guess it's simple math more than anything else.



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Posted March 10 2011 - 02:28 AM

"I think in general you'll see more films from the 30s and 40s because the sheer number of films in their library from the height of the studio era far outweigh number of films from the 70s, 80s and 90s."--Indeed.



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Posted March 10 2011 - 06:09 AM




Originally Posted by Bob Cashill 

"I think in general you'll see more films from the 30s and 40s because the sheer number of films in their library from the height of the studio era far outweigh number of films from the 70s, 80s and 90s."--Indeed.


Yep, back in the 30s and 40s, Warner's, MGM, RKO and Monogram were making close to 50 features a year, and that does not count the MGM and Warner Cartoons and Shorts.   Warner basically has only their catalog of films for the 70s, 80s and 90s and that would run about 20 films a year tops.  They also control the pre-1986 MGM, and most Lorimar, and Allied Artists titles of that era but by the early 70s those companies was down to less than dozen films a year.  Warner's has said that the ALEX IN WONDERLAND, THE STRAWBERRY STATEMENT, and LAST SUMMER were coming.



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Posted March 10 2011 - 10:42 AM

Allen, I'm sure you meant to say that WB owns the pre-1986 MGM library.Posted Image MGM releases after that, as well as the entire United Artists library, are owned by MGM.



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Posted March 11 2011 - 05:25 AM




Originally Posted by Point-Blank 

Allen, I'm sure you meant to say that WB owns the pre-1986 MGM library.Posted Image MGM releases after that, as well as the entire United Artists library, are owned by MGM.


Your quite right, but I thought majority of people on here knew that so it was redundant.  And MGM also owns the the majority of Orion, AIP, and Filmways titles along with several smaller production and distribution company titles such as Cannon, besides many United Artists titles.


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Posted March 11 2011 - 10:07 AM

It's the UA titles they have that bug me the most as it was one of my favorite studios. I wish WB could dig into that library.



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Posted March 11 2011 - 12:32 PM

I keep holding out for the 6 hour cut of Until the End of the World that Wenders showed in NY and LA about a decade ago.


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Posted March 12 2011 - 11:34 AM

I really want Ralph Bakshi's 1982 film Hey Good Lookin'.  Maybe the WAC responded to my request for the scrapped live-action cut of the film (in case you didn't know, the film was originally meant to be a mixture of live-action and animation ala Roger Rabbit, but after Bakshi completed filming the live-action portion of the film, he was forced into remaking it into an entirely animated film) and they're to find/restore that version.


Warners: Please release the rest of Taz-Mania, Duck Dodgers, Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries, Dexter's Lab, Courage the Cowardly Dog, all of Road Rovers, Histeria, Cow & Chicken, Saturday Pants, Pinky Elmyra & The Brain, Tiny Toons Night Ghoulery & Spring Break specials, Wakko's Wish and a complete uncut Tex Avery set (with correct colors and NO DVNR)

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Posted March 12 2011 - 08:04 PM

THE TRAVELING EXECUTIONER would be nice to have. That one never turns up on TV and has never been on home video. Are there rights issues?