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RAINTREE COUNTY on Blu? On TCM 02-16 3:15 a.m. ET

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#161 of 834 OFFLINE   mikeyhitchfan

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Posted August 22 2013 - 09:08 AM

I'm trying to be optimistic. Maybe all of the reissues (Oz, The Exorcist, JFK, etc.) will help fund titles like Raintree County.

 

So would releasing some long overdue titles on blu-ray..like a Hitchcock box set with all the titles they own! Or a Bogart box. Or a Scorsese box.



#162 of 834 OFFLINE   cinerama10

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Posted November 11 2013 - 04:13 PM

Raintree County was a bore even when I saw it upon it's original release.It was not surprising that it  was a flop. I saw it again recently on dvd and  it is still a monumental  bore of a film. Beautifully photographed but  oh so overlong and tedious. It IS available on dvd and has been for more than a decade. Just  keep searching the internet and you  should find it.I gave my copy away recently as  I  could not stand seeing this  film ever again.It was not surprising that it was never released in 70mm. Too few  70mm cinemas  at the time and most were screening long run films.In the early days  of 70mm some films were  screened  at a single cinema for years. (South  Pacific ran  5 years in London and 4 1/2  in Sydney.) Sound Of Music (a much later  release)  also had a  similar run  in London and Sydney. In my opinion, Sound Of Music was the  most disappointing of all  Roger's & Hammerstein's  musicals..Brilliant directing and photography but the music never grabbed me like the  rest of  R&H  musicals  did. True it was  the most successful film  of all time  upon it's original release.I also had to endure it for 10 long months  at the 70mm cinema that I worked at.We  had a party after it finished...Unless a film has been lost for all time then it is bound to be out there on dvd  somewhere in the world. I even have THE ALAMO  in it's original roadshow length.. Only the much shorter  film has ever been officially released on dvd.That was truly magnificent in 70mm and it was no wonder that it won the Oscar for 'best sound'. It was not a success at the boxoffice but the music was unforgettable.I am not a western  nor a John Wayne fan but THE ALAMO never fails to move me  with the very emotional  finale and the  amazing final  battle scene.No digital  effects at the time luckily as that would have lessened the film's impact.



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Posted November 11 2013 - 06:57 PM

I am a bit puzzled that somebody would be taking the time to post about a movie that he could not stand ever seeing again but to each his own I guess...For those who actually care for it coming to Blu-ray: Have there been any news since the latest Q&A with George Feltenstein?At this point it might be worthwhile to mention any 35mm screenings of the movie in this thread as I would think that it is not coming to Blu-ray anytime soon.

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Posted November 11 2013 - 07:14 PM

I just wish they would get Raintree out there in some decent form.
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Posted November 11 2013 - 07:24 PM

Why can't we see Raintree County? Rights issue? Music?

 

And Elizabeth Taylor was HORRIBLY miscast in Ivanhoe; she was much better in Raintree.


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#166 of 834 OFFLINE   Robin9

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Posted November 11 2013 - 10:22 PM

Unless a film has been lost for all time then it is bound to be out there on dvd  somewhere in the world. 

 

Really? In what condition? Released by whom?

 

Certainly there are bootleg DVDs of many MIA films, but that is not the same as a proper disc released with the authorisation of the copyright holder.



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Posted November 11 2013 - 10:26 PM

 

And Elizabeth Taylor was HORRIBLY miscast in Ivanhoe; she was much better in Raintree.

 

I disagree entirely. As lit and photographed by Freddie Young, she looked superb in Ivanhoe and was quite good in her role. She certainly made the lust of the George Sanders character credible. I don't think she was nearly as good in Raintree County.



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Posted November 11 2013 - 11:20 PM

I am a bit puzzled that somebody would be taking the time to post about a movie that he could not stand ever seeing again but to each his own I guess...

 

Especially since this was necro-bumped from from August.  Usually when that happens, I expect some actual news on the title to justify it, but alas.

 

Really? In what condition? Released by whom?

 

Certainly there are bootleg DVDs of many MIA films, but that is not the same as a proper disc released with the authorisation of the copyright holder.

 

In the case of Raintree County, all that will likely be out there are P&S transfers taped off of TCM.  I'm sure we reasonably expect something better than that to be done with this film on the home video front.



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Posted November 12 2013 - 12:17 AM

 I even have THE ALAMO  in it's original roadshow length..

 

Wow! I bet Robert Harris would love to get his hands on that one. 

 

Seriously, what you most likely have is a Bootleg DVD (probably Asian) copied from the old MGM/UA extended version Laserdisc.

 

As a newbie you will soon learn that it is taboo on HTF to promote or encourage others to seek out what are most likely to be Bootleg DVDs of copyrighted movies.

 

 

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#170 of 834 OFFLINE   AdrianTurner

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Posted November 12 2013 - 05:59 AM

My long version of The Alamo is my own transfer of the VHS to DVD. Not the best transfer I've ever seen but at least I have a record of what they [wisely?] cut out!  

 

Raintree County is still high on my list - I'm sure it's a bore, but I want to see it anyway.


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#171 of 834 OFFLINE   Robin9

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Posted November 12 2013 - 08:52 AM

 

In the case of Raintree County, all that will likely be out there are P&S transfers taped off of TCM.  I'm sure we reasonably expect something better than that to be done with this film on the home video front.

 

I have an Italian DVD of Raintree County. It's pretty bad but it isn't pan & scan.



#172 of 834 OFFLINE   Ed Lachmann

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Posted November 12 2013 - 10:58 AM

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I like RAINTREE COUNTY, actually.  If I REALLY want to be bored, I'll go to my local multiplex, pick a film at random, pay my admission and attempt to sit through it.  Never fails that I am either bored to tears or insulted and often just walk out.  Sad thing is that the pieces of crap that are shown there will ALL make it onto blu-ray, every fart joke comedy, dumb buddy flick, wooden "superhero" mess,  and CG monstrosity.  RAINTREE COUNTY is pure literature in comparison.  And, "critics" who disparage other peoples beloved films are rather annoying, anyway.



#173 of 834 OFFLINE   OliverK

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Posted November 12 2013 - 10:11 PM

Raintree County is still high on my list - I'm sure it's a bore, but I want to see it anyway.

It looks and sounds great - if you can wait to see it as a decent print or a Blu-ray that is!As for the movie it seems that opinions vary quite a bit as you can see in this thread :)

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Posted November 12 2013 - 11:51 PM

I have an Italian DVD of Raintree County. It's pretty bad but it isn't pan & scan.

 

I forget that this movie is non-anamorphic letterboxed on TV, my error.  Probably the best transfer out there regardless, and that's hardly saying much and probably why WHV never release such a disc.  Still, surprised there's actually a legit version out there on DVD.



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Posted November 13 2013 - 06:23 AM

I forget that this movie is non-anamorphic letterboxed on TV, my error.  Probably the best transfer out there regardless, and that's hardly saying much and probably why WHV never release such a disc.  Still, surprised there's actually a legit version out there on DVD.

Regarding best transfer: It seems like it was shown on HDnet at some point. A forum member said he had taped it in 1080i and there is someone mentioning of it on AVSforum in a very old thread. Would probably good enough for an archive release on DVD but not more.

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Posted November 16 2013 - 03:13 PM

Actually Doug,I  bought RAINTREE COUNRY on dvd in Melbourne  many years ago.Likewise for THE ALAMO.Who knows where they emanated from but both were wide screen complete with the overture and intermission.The picture quality was excellent.



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Posted November 16 2013 - 03:30 PM

bootlegs.
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Posted November 16 2013 - 05:22 PM

Actually Doug,I  bought RAINTREE COUNRY on dvd in Melbourne  many years ago.Likewise for THE ALAMO.Who knows where they emanated from but both were wide screen complete with the overture and intermission.The picture quality was excellent.

 

There are a large number of HTF members here, including myself, who also have the same two movies, exactly the same roadshow versions, probably exactly the same extras, all taken from exactly the same source, but the only difference is, ours are legal.

They're called Laserdiscs.

 

Those DVDs appear to be nothing more than bootleg copies stolen from the same laserdisc source.

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..."The Picture quality was excellent"

If you happen to like non Anamorphic 4:3 Letterbox with it's less than 300 lines of resolution. :blink:

 

Those two pre-mentioned transfers were struck in the last century.

That's why a very large number of us at HTF and elsewhere are desperate for a 21st century restoration or at least an updated

re-master for Blu-ray and beyond.

 

 

Doug.


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Posted November 16 2013 - 06:32 PM

I have a Spanish DVD of Raintree County from WB with an AR of 2.35:1,non-anamorphic.PQ is very good.Duration is 159 min. in PAL which is close to 166 min. in NTSC. The original time length is 168 min. according to IMDb.

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Posted November 17 2013 - 06:13 AM

I have a Spanish DVD of Raintree County from WB with an AR of 2.35:1,non-anamorphic.PQ is very good.Duration is 159 min. in PAL which is close to 166 min. in NTSC. The original time length is 168 min. according to IMDb.

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger and buy the Spanish DVD.







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