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#1 of 51 Sam Posten

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Posted January 25 2011 - 08:56 AM

Should be announced Thursday.  Latest spy shot looks pretty damn good.  32gb card included and touch screen enabled in addition to dual analogue sticks.  Hope it's true!

http://news.softpedi...es-180371.shtml


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#2 of 51 Morgan Jolley

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Posted January 25 2011 - 12:57 PM

If it's backward compatible, I'll eventually buy one.  I completely skipped out on the PSP and know that I missed some stellar games, but I just could never justify the purchase.  The Go looked sexy and I liked the design in some ways, but the cost didn't justify the featureset.


Any guesses on price/release/games?  I'm going to say October/November, $250-300, Uncharted/Killzone at or near launch.  I'm trying to think of games that could use the dual sticks and touch capabilities, so I think more console-style games (like FPS games) would work well.  Maybe it will allow you to play PS2 games (like how the PSP can play PS1 games)?


On that note, I'm predicting that they'll announce the addition of PS2 games to the PSN.



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Posted January 26 2011 - 07:06 AM

Engadget has a preview of the PSP phone.  If the PSP2 is anything like it I will be very disappointed:

http://www.engadget....-phone-preview/


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#4 of 51 Morgan Jolley

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Posted January 26 2011 - 09:33 AM

I'm guessing that Sony is going to make something more like the PSPgo for the phone and something brand new and different for the PSP2.  They will want to use the PSP2 to go against the iTouch and 3DS and the phone to go against the iPhone and such.


Also, the PSP2 supposed has a touch-sensitive back to it.  I'm hoping that, if true, they show some examples of how this could be useful.



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Posted January 26 2011 - 02:07 PM



Originally Posted by Morgan Jolley 

If it's backward compatible...


It's not.



#6 of 51 Morgan Jolley

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Posted January 26 2011 - 03:43 PM

They haven't announced it yet....how do you know?  I'm assuming it's not going to be compatible with the UMDs from the PSP but might still be capable of playing the games that are on the PSN.  This is the same company that made the PS2 and PS3 (initially) backwards compatible and introduced the concept to the gaming market.



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Posted January 26 2011 - 06:48 PM

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT ANNOUNCES ITS NEXT GENERATION PORTABLE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM Ultimate Portable Entertainment System Makes Its Debut This Year, Further Expanding the PlayStation® Business in the Portable Gaming Market Tokyo, January 27, 2011 - Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced its next generation portable entertainment system (codename: NGP), which delivers the ultimate portable entertainment experience. NGP will make its debut at the end of the year 2011. NGP is designed to offer unparalleled interactive entertainment that is only possible on PlayStation®. This new system offers a revolutionary combination of rich gaming and social connectivity within a real world context, made possible by leveraging SCE's experience from both PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) and PlayStation®3 (PS3®) entertainment systems. Deep and immersive gaming is at the core of PlayStation's DNA, and NGP is the latest embodiment of this vision. By having both Wi-Fi and 3G network connectivity, together with various applications, NGP will enable infinite possibilities for users to "encounter," "connect," "discover," "share" and "play" with friends wherever they are. Within the device are a range of features that provide a genuinely cutting-edge, next generation ultimate portable entertainment experience. * l Stunning OLED and Revolutionary User Interface NGP incorporates a beautiful multi-touch 5-inch organic light emitting display (OLED) as the front display. A high-performance CPU / GPU combined with OLED enables rich, visually striking graphics never seen before on a portable entertainment system, for both games and other digital entertainment content. The new system also incorporates a unique multi-touch pad on the rear, and together with the front touch display, NGP offers new game play allowing users to interact directly with games in three dimension-like motion, through "touch, grab, trace, push and pull" moves of the fingers. * l Super Oval Design and Dual Analog Sticks While succeeding the basic design philosophy of PSP, NGP adopts the Super Oval Design form factor, created to fit comfortably in users' hands. For the first time, a portable entertainment system will feature two analog sticks, which enable a wider range of game genres to be brought into the portable experience. * l LiveAreaTM Every game title for NGP will be provided with a space called "LiveAreaTM" where users can share the fun and excitement with other players. Users will have access to the latest information of games provided from SCE and 3rd party developers and publishers through PlayStation®Network. Additionally, NGP users will be able to view an "Activity" log that is constantly updated with accomplishments from users who are playing the same game, which in turn can trigger active real-time communication among users. * l Near SCE will also provide location-based services on NGP as part of the basic features utilizing PlayStation Network. The new application called "Near," developed specifically for this service and the network, will be pre-installed in the system to let users find out what their friends in the vicinity are playing now or what they were playing recently. Users can meet their friends and new players virtually, regardless of what games they are playing, simply by sharing their game information across different dimensions of time and distance. * l New Game Medium NGP adopts a new game medium, a small flash memory based card, dedicated for NGP software titles. Taking advantage of the flash memory feature, this innovative card can store the full software titles plus add-on game content or the game save data directly on to the card. By adopting flash memory based card, SCE will be able to provide game cards with higher capacity in the future, allowing developers to store more game data to deliver rich and immersive games. NGP will also come equipped with two cameras on its front and rear, as well as three motion sensors, gyroscope, accelerometer and electronic compass, all of which are designed to enable users to enjoy the world of entertainment that is linked with real life experiences. PlayStation®Suite (PS Suite), announced today, will also closely coordinate with NGP. The newly developed and released game content for AndroidTM based portable devices can also be enjoyed on NGP. As a result, users will have access to not only the most leading-edge content, but also some of the more casual experiences that typify the mobile market place. SCE will vigorously promote NGP towards the launch as the next generation portable entertainment platform and deploy various measures to further expand the portable gaming market. ?Next generation portable entertainment system (codename: NGP) ? CPU ARM® CortexTM-A9 core (4 core) GPU SGX543MP4+ External Dimensions Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection) Screen (Touch screen) 5 inches (16:9), 960 x 544, Approx. 16 million colors, OLED Multi touch screen (capacitive type) Rear touch pad Multi touch pad (capacitive type) Cameras Front camera, Rear camera Sound Built-in stereo speakers Built-in microphone Sensors Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass Location Built-in GPS Wi-Fi location service support Keys / Switches PS button Power button Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left) Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square) Shoulder buttons (Right/Left) Right stick, Left stick START button, SELECT button Volume buttons (+/-) Wireless communications Mobile network connectivity (3G) IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode) Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR ?A2DP/AVRCP/HSP?

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Posted January 27 2011 - 01:44 AM



Originally Posted by Lord Dalek 



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If it's backward compatible...


It's not.



Turns out, it actually is.  PSOne and PSP games that are downloaded from the PSN will play on it.



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Posted January 27 2011 - 02:24 AM



Originally Posted by Morgan Jolley 



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If it's backward compatible...


It's not.



Turns out, it actually is.  PSOne and PSP games that are downloaded from the PSN will play on it.



The PSN network is not the same thing as being backwards compatible. Its essentially emulation.


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Posted January 27 2011 - 02:26 AM

No prices announced yet, there's actually a LOT of unanswered questions that are going to have to wait until E3.  I'm betting this thing costs $349 or $399 tho.

http://www.engadget..../the-sony-psp2/

http://gizmodo.com/5744521/

http://www.nytimes.c...8sony.html?_r=1

http://www.engadget....-a-closer-look/

http://www.engadget....x-a9-processor/


The full live blog:

http://www.engadget....ys-tokyo-event/


In case you missed it, they are bringing Playstation / PSP integration to android too:

http://gizmodo.com/5...-android-phones

http://www.engadget....ystation-suite/


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Posted January 27 2011 - 03:23 AM

More updates:

http://blog.us.plays...Jack_NGP_012611


http://arstechnica.c...2011/01/ngp.ars


http://bit.ly/g64FEZ


http://sonyrumors.ne...al-hd-pictures/


If anyone can find the official english announce video link please post it.  (Not the teaser video All things D has, but the one where the hardware swoops around and the new tech is highlighted)


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Posted January 27 2011 - 05:52 AM

The PS3 can play PS1 games through emulation, but does that mean it's not backwards compatible?  I'd agree that there's a difference between playing PSP games on UMDs and ones downloaded from the PSN, but since the rumors leading up to the announcement today were that the PSP2 wouldn't have a UMD drive at all I said "backwards compatible" as referring to playing games from the PSN.


I guess the price for this will have to be under $300.  If Nintendo is releasing an X-Box 360 equivalent handheld with a 3D screen and a touch screen at $250 and has a 6+ month head start worldwide, then Sony has to meet that price or be lower.  This handheld seems to have a lot of hardware power and neat abilities, but doesn't have quite the wow factor of being 3D.  Big screen?  Some cameras?  A rear touch panel?  3G?  Neat ideas, but people are used to these from other existing devices (except for the rear touch pad).


I'm kind of disappointed with this, actually.  If they can provide a console-quality experience on a handheld...then why not release those games for the consoles?  I feel like Nintendo is offering something truly unique with the DS, DSi, and 3DS with the double screen/touch screen setup.  The PSP2 seems to be just a beefier PSP.


I'm still holding out for the ability to play PSP games on my PS3.  I don't want to pay for a PSP if I'd rather just play the games on my TV.



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Posted January 27 2011 - 07:35 AM

More updates:

http://bit.ly/fPnQfO


http://www.cnn.com/2...psp2/index.html


http://blogs.evtrib...._medium=twitter


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Posted January 27 2011 - 09:18 AM



Originally Posted by Morgan Jolley 

The PS3 can play PS1 games through emulation, but does that mean it's not backwards compatible?  I'd agree that there's a difference between playing PSP games on UMDs and ones downloaded from the PSN, but since the rumors leading up to the announcement today were that the PSP2 wouldn't have a UMD drive at all I said "backwards compatible" as referring to playing games from the PSN.


Well the problem with you're saying is that backwards compatibility refers to physical media not stuff like virtual console. The 3DS is going to be backwards compatible with the DS because it has a place for the previous units SD Card type things. Likewise the DS could play GBA cartridges, the GBA could play GB, etc. The NGE does not support UMD at all, so owners of the PSP 1000-3000 are left with two choices.


A: Rebuy the games they already bought using the internet and very slow download times. TRANSLATION: a ripoff.


B: Start from scratch.


C: Don't bother at all.


This is the domino effect from the original mistake of the UMD format coming into existence in the first place. The PSPGo bombed largely because of it.




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Posted January 27 2011 - 09:31 AM

It's good for guys like, Morgan, though.  I'm into physical media, so this may not be true, but I'm under the impression that every or almost every PSP game is available on the network.  So, if Morgan picks up the new unit, he can download some cool stuff he missed like Castlevania X, the Ghouls and Ghost game, or whatever interests him.  You're right that it would be an annoyance for me, as a PSP owner, to not be able to play the games I have without laying out some extra cash.  For the moment, it's not an issue as I don't plan to buy the new PSP.


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Posted January 27 2011 - 01:00 PM

A lot of PSP games are on the PSN but not all.  They've been trying to do same day releases with new stuff but haven't for quite everything.  I think the big example of this was the newest PSP Kingdom Hearts game not being available on the PSN for the foreseeable future.


That said, the new PSP2 (or, as Sony calls it, the NGP) still uses physical media.  Games come on memory sticks that can also be used to store software updates, save files, downloadable content, etc. in addition to games being available for download.  I think this was a smart move, but will only pay off if the games that can be downloaded are cheaper.  If you're not paying for the physical stick, packaging, manual, etc. then why should you pay for it?  I don't think there is a price difference right now with the downloadable titles.


Joel - I understand your argument.  My point was that when I said "backwards compatible" I already was assuming that the new hardware wasn't going to include a UMD drive and was referring to playing PSP games.  Maybe I didn't pick the correct term but what I said was still true.  Also, as a sidenote, it's usually handy to disagree with someone by following their comment with a short explanation rather than just 2 words.  Makes discussion go by quicker.



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Posted January 27 2011 - 03:31 PM

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Posted January 27 2011 - 03:35 PM

I...kind of agree with everything in that article.  Each of those reasons, flipped on its head, is what makes the 3DS unique.



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Posted January 28 2011 - 02:11 AM

Giz is on the bandwagon tho!

http://gizmodo.com/5...why-i-dont-care


Questions nobody is asking:

http://wosblog.podga...nobodys-asking/


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Posted January 28 2011 - 03:39 PM

Full video:

http://www.sonyinsid...n-portable-ngp/


Good chunks:

http://www.thehdroom...age-Galore/8279


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