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#1 of 61 GMpasqua

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Posted January 24 2011 - 02:33 AM

Warner Bros. How about releasing some musicals on Blu-ray?

 

Bewteen WB and MGM you have the bulk of the best musicals, yet you have released less than a handful
 

 

An Anerican in Paris
 

A Star is Born
 

The Music Man
 

 

How about a few more this year?



#2 of 61 Matt Hough

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Posted January 24 2011 - 04:16 AM

Warners also released Gigi on Blu-ray, but I agree with you. Warners has an uncommonly large collection of musical masterpieces that deserve to be seen in all their high def splendor.


Didn't I read they're saving Singin' in the Rain for next year? A long wait for one of the greats.



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Posted September 13 2012 - 01:00 AM

To date Warner has been rather skin flint on the musical home front. To date we have The Wizard of Oz, Singin' In The Rain, Meet Me In St. Louis, An American In Paris, Gigi, Jailhouse Rock, Viva Las Vegas, and Camelot. The musicals I'd really like to see Warner go gung-ho with complete ground up 1080p remasters in 4k minimum are as follows and I've structured them according to my personal favs first: The Great Ziegfeld Anchors Aweigh High Society The Harvey Girls Bathing Beauty Summer Stock Seven Brides for Seven Brothers The Student Prince Hit The Deck Bells are Ringing Till The Clouds Roll By Words and Music Silk Stockings Maytime Holiday in Mexico Victor/Victoria For Me And My Gal Broadway Melody of 1936/38/40 Cabin in the Sky Show Boat Royal Wedding Kiss Me Kate Easy to Love The Merry Widow (Chevalier/MacDonald) Lovely to Look At Nancy Goes to Rio A Date With Judy Million Dollar Mermaid That Midnight Kiss Gypsy Rosalie Rose Marie (MacDonald/Eddy version) The Great Caruso Ziegfeld Girl Babes on Broadway Babes in Arms Strike Up The Band Girl Crazy I Love Melvin The Band Wagon The Chocolate Soldier Thousands Cheer This Is The Army Thank Your Lucky Stars Love Me Or Leave Me Calamity Jane Romance on the High Seas Easter Parade The Pirate Yolanda And the Thief Deep In My Heart Annie Get Your Gun Three Little Words The Barkley's of Broadway Swing Time Carefree Top Hat The Toast of New Orleans Les Girls

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Posted September 13 2012 - 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Nick*Z 

To date Warner has been rather skin flint on the musical home front. To date we have The Wizard of Oz, Singin' In The Rain, Meet Me In St. Louis, An American In Paris, Gigi, Jailhouse Rock, Viva Las Vegas, and Camelot.
The musicals I'd really like to see Warner go gung-ho with complete ground up 1080p remasters in 4k minimum are as follows and I've structured them according to my personal favs first:
 

Well they have let out a few rumors from the water-tank that THE GREAT ZIEGFELD, GYPSY and SHOWBOAT is on it's way next year along with a redo of THE MUSIC MAN.  They have GUYS AND DOLLS and HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSON up for December, so they are working on it.


But I agree we need a Blu of THE HARVEY GIRLS, SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS and THE BANDWAGON for sure. I would hope that in their announcement of Blu-ray collections coming next year that we would get a Rooney/Garland set.  Ahhh - GIRL CRAZY in Blu, I guess i will be "biddin' my time".


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Posted September 13 2012 - 02:30 AM

I'd guess we'd get Easter Parade before we'd get The Harvey Girls. Easter Parade got an Ultra-Resolution restoration (as did The Band Wagon) so I'm guessing a Blu-ray release would bring out its strong hues and clarity more fully which Warners could trumpet. But that's just a guess.



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Posted September 13 2012 - 03:19 AM

Well they have let out a few rumors from the water-tank that THE GREAT ZIEGFELD, GYPSY and SHOWBOAT is on it's way next year along with a redo of THE MUSIC MAN.  They have GUYS AND DOLLS and HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSON up for December, so they are working on it. But I agree we need a Blu of THE HARVEY GIRLS, SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS and THE BANDWAGON for sure. I would hope that in their announcement of Blu-ray collections coming next year that we would get a Rooney/Garland set.  Ahhh - GIRL CRAZY in Blu, I guess i will be "biddin' my time".

I hope that SHOWBOAT will include all versions. Although I think the 1936 version is best, each has its pleasures. There was one laserdisc release of the 1951 version that featured a really vibrant stereo track created, I believe, from the different angle microphone tracks. OF COURSE they should include the original mono version, but I hope they include that stereo soundtrack as an option because I love it (it wasn't used on the rather poor looking DVD version). A new version of THE MUSIC MAN would be welcome as the current blu-ray strikes me as a bit digital, and the color isn't as pretty as I think it could be. It's not bad to the point I don't enjoy it, I'm just not going to buy it again until I read a review or two averring that it is more filmlike. I have owned that movie in so many formats it isn't even funny; Warners has gotten their money's worth on that title from me (and may again if they make a noticeable improvement).

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Posted September 13 2012 - 03:28 AM

I know that not many people agree with me, but I love KISMET with Howard Keel, also an MGM title through Warner. The (oop) DVD looks good; I think it could look great in blu.

#8 of 61 Matt Hough

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Posted September 13 2012 - 05:31 AM

I agree completely about that stereo track for SHOW BOAT. It needs to be on any future release of that version.

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Posted September 13 2012 - 09:52 AM

Kismet's not a terrible musical. It just doesn't belong in the same class as, say, Meet Me In St. Louis. But I still like it too.

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Posted September 13 2012 - 10:10 AM

I hope that SHOWBOAT will include all versions. Although I think the 1936 version is best, each has its pleasures. There was one laserdisc release of the 1951 version that featured a really vibrant stereo track created, I believe, from the different angle microphone tracks. OF COURSE they should include the original mono version, but I hope they include that stereo soundtrack as an option because I love it (it wasn't used on the rather poor looking DVD version). 


That LD, which I have as a special 3-film box set, included audio tests of various people who did not get the roles in the 1951 film. There was a Gene Kelly LD with audio tracks also of takes. Don't recall any DVDs that continued this practice.


We have discussed the Showboat special edition that was planned in Blu Ray some years ago but nothing more has happened except some of the missing soundtrack discs have surfaced but not all.

Any one know about the Nov release of the Blu Ray That's Entertainment? Is this the same as the previous Blu release(that reviews stopped me form buying) or a corrected set?


That's Dancing would be good on Blu Ray.



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Posted September 13 2012 - 12:02 PM

That LD, which I have as a special 3-film box set, included audio tests of various people who did not get the roles in the 1951 film. There was a Gene Kelly LD with audio tracks also of takes. Don't recall any DVDs that continued this practice.

I believe OZ and HARVEY GIRLS are the only ones that featured extensive session tracks.

#12 of 61 Matt Hough

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Posted September 13 2012 - 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Mark B 


I believe OZ and HARVEY GIRLS are the only ones that featured extensive session tracks.


The 3-disc Garland laserdisc set that included The Harvey Girls, The Pirate, and Summer Stock had the same extensive recording session takes as the Kelly laserdisc box had if I remember correctly.



#13 of 61 Doug Bull

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Posted September 13 2012 - 04:37 PM

Let's not forget the wonderful 'SUMMER HOLIDAY" with that great score by Harry Warren. Not sure if the if the original Technicolor elements are in decent shape though, as both the Laserdisc and the current DVD look fairly ordinary. "Best Foot Forward" would also be welcomed. Of all the candidates for Blu-ray treatment, "Annie Get Your Gun" will always get my number one vote. As a side note and away from the blu-ray thread for a moment, Anybody who loves the magical orchestrations, arrangements and sound of the MGM Orchestra should rush out and buy "A Celebration of Classic MGM Film Musicals" DVD featuring the John Wilson Orchestra with Guests, live from the Royal Albert Hall. It is available on the BBC label(region 2) in the UK and I believe that a US region one release is coming soon. John Wilson accurately recreates the original classic MGM Orchestra sound in breathtaking Stereo. It's worth the cost of the DVD just to see and hear the Orchestra go all out on the big dance sequence from "Seven Brides For Seven Brothers" "Bless yore Beautiful Hide", It is a real knock-out.

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Posted September 13 2012 - 05:01 PM

I too was curious about the soon to be released That's Entertainment box. It would seem odd if it was just a re-issue, since I don't recall the other set going OOP. Still, you never know. I am more concerned over the fact that there are ZERO Fred Astaire musicals on Blu-Ray (well, at least in the US - there is a European version of Funny Face). Yes, there are clips of him in the That's Entertainment box, but none of his full musicals (his only Blus are Towering Inferno and Santa Claus Is Coming To Town). I will say, in the new Singin' In The Rain documentary, there were some clips from Swing Time and Top Hat. The Swing Time clips were ok, but the Top Hat clips looked terrific. I also second the wish for That's Dancing (for my copy I made an extra disc with three additional numbers - Steam Heat from The Pajama Game, Nice Work If You Can Get It from A Damsel In Distress, and the incomparable Jumpin' Jive from Stormy Weather performed by the Nicholas Brothers) David

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Posted September 14 2012 - 12:19 AM

The 3-disc Garland laserdisc set that included The Harvey Girls, The Pirate, and Summer Stock had the same extensive recording session takes as the Kelly laserdisc box had if I remember correctly.

A thorough listing of the Garland laser tracks here: http://www.thejudyro...acks/laser.html

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Posted September 14 2012 - 02:54 AM

The 3-disc Garland laserdisc set that included The Harvey Girls, The Pirate, and Summer Stock had the same extensive recording session takes as the Kelly laserdisc box had if I remember correctly.

I was referring to tracks that made their way over to the DVD releases. Laserdiscs that featured sessions: GARLAND set: http://www.thejudyro...acks/laser.html KELLY set: a few tracks from ON THE TOWN, extensive tracks from BRIGADOON and IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER THE COMPLETE SHOW BOAT: some audio from the 1929 film; extensive sessions from the 1951 film MGM COMPOSERS COLLECTION: http://www.thejudyro.../composers.html THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT III-COLLECTOR'S EDITION: http://www.thejudyro...s/te3laser.html THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT-ULTIMATE MUSICAL TREASURY: http://www.thejudyro...telaserbox.html - There are also session tracks of "Breezing Along With the Breeze" from THE LONG LONG TRAILER THOROUGHBREDS DON'T CRY/LISTEN, DARLING: http://www.thejudyro...tendarling.html THE WIZARD OF OZ ULTIMATE TREASURY: http://www.thejudyro...ozultimate.html MEET ME IN ST LOUIS: http://www.thejudyro...louislaser.html ZIEGFELD FOLLIES: session tracks featuring outtake audio

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Posted November 04 2012 - 01:00 AM

Regarding the Fred Astaire films in hi-def. In the past, Robyn Smith, the second Mrs. Astaire has been something of a challenge to deal with. Astaire owned the rights to his movies and after he died Robyn inherited that library. She denied the AFI access to footage for Ginger Rogers tribute because they wouldn't pay her for the rights to show the clips. Warner was successful at finagling a limited deal with Smith for the DVD release. But another deal would have to be brokered before we get a hi-def offering. Undoubtedly we'll see Astaire on Blu eventually. Everyone has their price. Ms. Smith has proven she knows hers. We'll see.

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Posted November 04 2012 - 06:31 AM

I seem to remember that the studios retain the rights for Astaire's actual films, but not for using exerpts in any other ways. Strabge though that Robyn would allow him to dance with a vaccuum cleaner in a commercial but not in a TV tribute to Ginger Rogers.

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Posted November 04 2012 - 06:45 AM

I seem to remember that the studios retain the rights for Astaire's actual films, but not for using exerpts in any other ways.

This may no longer be true. There were clips from both Swing Time and Top Hat in the doc that accompanied the new Singin' In The Rain blu-ray. Of course, in the 25 years since he's passed, perhaps she might (finally) be changing her stance. David

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Posted November 04 2012 - 06:50 AM

Dear Nick Z, Just a small point, but I believe it was the Kennedy Honors, and not the AFI, that was denied the rights to show the Astaire/Rogers clips. There was much denigration of the second Mrs. Astaire at the time ... all of it richly deserved, in my opinion. Poder





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