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Kino Press Release: The Black Pirate (Blu-ray)


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#1 of 13 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted November 11 2010 - 01:22 AM

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#2 of 13 OFFLINE   Richard--W

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Posted November 11 2010 - 01:47 AM

I can't hardly wait.

Kino's DVD was spectacular, so I have high expectations for the BRD.

Chaplin At Keystone, Buster Keaton, and now the greatest pirate movie ever made all at the end of the year.


The Black Pirate is what entertainment is all about.

Fairbanks goes up and down and diagonally across that ship in defiance of gravity.

He moves with the velocity of a bullet with a rudder.

And then there is the early Technicolor, which is lovely most of the time.


If you haven't seen The Black Pirate yet, you owe yourself  the treat.



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Posted November 11 2010 - 05:53 PM

While I would never want it done, because artistically it's apalling, technologically I've always wondered if it'd be possible to take the two strip technicolor movies and triangulate them to render a the 'third' strip that was never exposed before and create a three strip movie out of it (it almost sounds like a modern art 'reappropriation' exhibit, heh).  I imagine today's color tools could create a pretty impressive 'realistic' look to a two strip film, and again, I'm glad they're NOT doing that. :)
 

#4 of 13 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted November 12 2010 - 12:18 AM

I presume that I'm recalling this correctly.  I believe that the two color version of The Black Pirate is made of different takes than was originally released, ie. B negative.  The original, AFAIK, no longer exists. Can't wait to see this. RAH

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#5 of 13 OFFLINE   Richard--W

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Posted November 12 2010 - 01:03 AM

Was the A negative also in two-strip Technicolor?

#6 of 13 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted November 12 2010 - 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard--W 

Was the A negative also in two-strip Technicolor?




"Two-strip" Technicolor, as opposed to "three-strip," is a misnomer.  It never existed.  Two COLOR Technicolor was a process that exposed two frames of the negative per exposure on a single strip of film.


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http://widescreenmus...echnicolor2.htm


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#7 of 13 OFFLINE   John_S

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Posted November 12 2010 - 04:53 AM

I love this movie and will eagerly upgrade to the Blu-ray!

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Posted January 16 2011 - 11:07 AM

Anyone seen the BD yet?  Pretty good movie--I'd like to know what they're able to do with it.

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Posted January 16 2011 - 05:27 PM

I haven't watched the whole thing, but I've sampled about 5-10 minutes of it total, and it looks great, IMO. DVD Beaver's review is spot on, IMO. http://www.dvdbeaver...ate_blu-ray.htm

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#10 of 13 OFFLINE   Will Krupp

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Posted January 16 2011 - 06:34 PM

I'm a bona fide Technicolor nutcase (have been since I was eight years old) so I had this on release day and, like Brandon, I've sampled it but haven't sat to watch it all the way through.  I agree that this is well worth a purchase based on what I've seen so far.  I'm STILL amazed this made it to blu-ray!

#11 of 13 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted January 17 2011 - 01:21 AM

Precisely how well this Blu-ray matches the original hues is the 800 pound gorilla in the room, and not within the control of Kino, which I'm certain has done whatever they can to achieve the best looking image from what is available to them.  The problem goes back to the Eastman Color negative, how exposure were made from the original elements, and in what quality.  That is a huge question. RAH

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Posted January 17 2011 - 05:49 AM

I wonder if the O-neg they used for the restoration is still in existence?  Considering the restoration was made some time ago, there might be some benefit in going back to the source and relying upon current digital technology. Of course, this is probably wishful thinking, since I doubt there is money enough to restore such a niche title.

#13 of 13 OFFLINE   Stephen_J_H

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Posted January 17 2011 - 08:03 AM

What I'm reading into RAH's post is that, at some point, the original nitrate elements were judged to be in need of preservation, and the call was made to create a colour element on Eastman stock, so the big question is whether the original 2-colour negative exists, in what condition, and whether a usable element could be created from it? This may be a simple case of Kino doing the best they could with available elements, especially if the original nitrate was junked and all that exists is the Eastman colour negative. RAH, am I reading too much into your comments?
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