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#1 of 67 OFFLINE   Sam Posten

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Posted August 25 2010 - 08:21 AM

It's officially on for next Wednesday!

http://www.engadget....ll-be-there-li/

 

Place your bets and dig in for what should be an interesting event.

 

New iPod touch?  Count on it.

iOS 4.2 for iPad?  Count on it.

$99 apple TV ala iTV?  Maybe

99 cent tv show rentals?  Maybe

7" iPad LONGSHOT

Beatles?  LONGSHOT


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#2 of 67 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted August 25 2010 - 09:20 AM

Beatles is a flat no.  Yoko got quoted very recently saying there is still no agreement with Apple.

I'd venture to say that even if the 7" iPad is coming in 2010, it will get its own separate intro.

 

I'd say that the iTV (no idea about the name itself) is 100%.  If not now, when?  I don't think TV rentals matter all that much -- you can buy the shows for $1.99 so I'm not sure what the big deal about renting them is.


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#3 of 67 OFFLINE   Shane D

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Posted August 25 2010 - 09:23 AM

im excited to see whats in the touch. im hoping for a mostly iphone4 without the phone. with the front camera for face time and the hi res screen and the same physical shape as the phone



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Posted August 25 2010 - 12:05 PM

My guesses. Since there's no "maybe", things either happen or they don't, I'm going binary :)

 

iPod Touch refresh: Yes. Metaphysical certitude

iPod Touch has front-facing camera for FaceTime: Yes.

iPod Nano Touch: Yes.

OS 4.2: No. A "music" event is not an obvious choice for a developer's announcement

TV Rentals: Yes

AppleTV refresh: No.

iPad refresh: No. Not a chance. Not even a longshot. Metaphysical impossibility. To those that say yes, John McLaughlin says, "Wrong Answer!!! Bye byyye!"

Beatles: Who cares? Buy the CDs and rip them.



#5 of 67 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted August 25 2010 - 12:59 PM

Surprised some naysayers on Apple TV.  There

is a lot of buzz about it on the Internet.  I would say

it's a "go" but who knows...

 

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Posted August 25 2010 - 02:10 PM

Given the emphasis on music, a "TV" announcement isn't a fit. Moreover, consider how Apple thinks: they want a clear and singular "message" to dominate the news cycle. That will be "iPod Touch does FaceTime".

 

Simultaneously announcing a major new iTV product would confuse and dilutes that message.

 

So we'll see a separate iTV announcement later to create a clear, unconfused media message to launch its holiday sales.

 

The one issue that makes me doubt this is: new TV starts in September. I understand this "iPod" event is earlier than normal on the first of Sept. That might suggest getting an iTV out to coincide with the new TV season. But to stick with my binary predictions, since a prediction of "maybe" is meaningless, I'm going with no iTV announcement at this even.
 

And if I'm wrong, you can all give me your best Nelson Muntz "ha ha" :)



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Posted August 26 2010 - 12:02 AM

Daring Fireball expects the whole enchilada

 

 

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I expect a new iPhone 4-caliber iPod Touch (retina display, dual FaceTime-ready cameras), new iTunes TV show rentals, and a new iOS-based Apple TV. The wildcard is whether there’s going to be an App Store for the Apple TV.

http://daringfirebal.../25/apple-event



#8 of 67 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted August 26 2010 - 01:44 AM

Against a separate iTV event -- the hobby thing. El Jobso won't put his rep on the line for something that won't take over the world. The TV rental thing will be supported by a couple of networks at best.

I see it as a one more thing at the music event.
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Posted August 26 2010 - 01:51 AM

I can buy that. I've been thinking of this AppleTV refresh as a big deal. But they may continue to sell it as a secondary product. A refresh on a box no one really cares about :)



#10 of 67 OFFLINE   Carlo Medina

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Posted August 26 2010 - 03:59 AM

I'm just hoping for more than 64GB on the iPod Touch. I have told myself that my 2 year old 120GB iPod Classic is the last hard drive based iPod I'll buy, but I also won't buy a new iPod until I can hold my entire audio library on it (currently 75GB). With Apple doubling the amount of memory in the Touch and iPhone every year we were on pace to have a 64GB iPhone and 128GB Touch this year...except that Apple held the RAM limit to 32GB for the iPhone 4. So will they hold to the same 64GB limit on the new Touch announced on Sept.1? I'm hoping not.


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Posted August 26 2010 - 04:53 AM

64gb is plenty for anyone =p  'Smart Playlists' are the bomb.   And if you need more than 8 movies in addition to 20gb each for music and apps you need to get out more.  =)

 

I want just the opposite.  I'm hoping for a radically cheap iPod touch with only 8gb for about $149.  I'd buy one for each niece and nephew for christmas at that price and they are all screaming about sharing my old 1st gen one now.  That's the beauty of this setup for me, my iPhone, iPad and their touch all pull from my collection and I sync them up about every 2 months.  More touches would be just a sync away and then everyone gets their own save games and layouts.


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Posted August 26 2010 - 05:29 AM

I'm hoping for a set in stone date announcement for white iPhone4. That's all I need

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Posted August 26 2010 - 06:33 AM

I could see myself going for an iTV if they line up some reasonably priced HD content. I've had a few times in the past where I failed to get a show recorded and then had to buy the episode from Amazon for $2.99 because they aren't available for rent. I bit my tongue and paid, but I'd be much more willing to do some rentals if the price was right.



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Posted August 26 2010 - 06:44 AM

Doubt it will happen but interesting idea:

http://venomousporri...itv-speculation


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Posted August 26 2010 - 07:28 AM

$99 AppleTV with $0.99 48-hr rentals gets my attention. The main thing stopping me then would be I don't really want to buy a device that enables me to watch *more* TV :) It's amazing how much you can watch just with OTA HD and a pair of Tivos :)



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Posted August 26 2010 - 07:34 AM

Sad thing for me Sam is that 75GB (actually now 76GB with my new CD purchase today) is only my music, no movies at all. /img/vbsmilies/htf/frown.gif

 

Smart playlists are fine, but I want my iPod to be my mobile music library. I want to be able to bring it to a friend's place and no matter what they want to hear, if I own it, I have it in my pocket. I long ago gave up on "one device" for both iPod and iPhone due to my library's size. I'm okay with carrying both an iPod and an iPhone. But I'd really like a non-HD iPod so that the rate of failure decreases due to less moving parts.

Originally Posted by Sam Posten 

64gb is plenty for anyone =p  'Smart Playlists' are the bomb.   And if you need more than 8 movies in addition to 20gb each for music and apps you need to get out more.  =)

 

I want just the opposite.  I'm hoping for a radically cheap iPod touch with only 8gb for about $149.  I'd buy one for each niece and nephew for christmas at that price and they are all screaming about sharing my old 1st gen one now.  That's the beauty of this setup for me, my iPhone, iPad and their touch all pull from my collection and I sync them up about every 2 months.  More touches would be just a sync away and then everyone gets their own save games and layouts.




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Posted August 26 2010 - 07:43 AM

Don't your friends have their own music to listen to at their places? /img/vbsmilies/htf/smiley_wink.gif



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Posted August 26 2010 - 08:56 AM

Unfortunately, Dave, I'm "the guy". You know, the guy who is considered to be the source of original music in a group of friends? The one guy who still buys his music, who still discovers new, non-top40 bands? I can't abdicate that role. I refuse! /img/vbsmilies/htf/biggrin.gif


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Posted August 26 2010 - 02:15 PM

I'm too old I guess. I didn't know that guy with 75GB of must-listen music that got carried to every party and gathering :)

 

But I do agree that you can never have too much storage. I wish for a 64GB iPhone. (Even though I've got 10GB free on my 32GB ;)



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Posted August 28 2010 - 01:59 PM

I expect to see the new "iLife '11" presented also..... The guitar on the invitation reminds me of GarageBand.....

 

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