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The Fugitive: Season Four, Volume 1


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#41 of 234 OFFLINE   Harry-N

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Posted August 30 2010 - 04:55 AM



Originally Posted by Charles Thaxton 

I'm surprised they never used Barry Morse's great episode intros on any of the sets.


Actually it's rather understandable that they didn't.  Mr. Morse's intros nearly all refer to the old volume numbers in the NuVentures series of tapes.  Things like "this second episode on Volume 7", etc.  To use them now would require heavy editing, or I suppose they could simply have placed them as extra features.  But I fear that neither would be possible, as I've heard stories about how Mr. Morse was not paid for the intros thus placing these in disputed territory.

 

As I dubbed my fourth season shows to DVD, I kept them in as extra titles that you could either view or not, and they more often than not don't make much sense as regards the Volume number stuff.
 

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#42 of 234 OFFLINE   Charles Thaxton

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Posted August 30 2010 - 07:26 AM

Right Harry-I forgot about Barry reading the volume numbers for the VHS releases, although those could be edited as you say. Still. he had the occasional interesting anecdote about some episodes which would make for a nice bonus extra.



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Posted August 31 2010 - 08:23 AM



Originally Posted by Richard Gallagher 



 

All Blu-ray players play regular DVDs, so there is no need for a combo player.
 

The last DIsney Blu-ray I bought, Pinocchio, included a DVD at no extra cost. Nice touch Disney.
 



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Posted September 21 2010 - 09:30 AM

JQuirk:

 

You might give S3V1 a try.  11 of the 15 episodes are very intact.  I don't know why the second volume of each season got such shabby treatment.  Anyway, like you, I didn't buy S3V2 and will wait for reviews before buying Season 4.
 

Am I the only one who's not that excited about The Invaders music in Season 4?  This is one of the reasons the show that year seems different and, to me, less exciting than previous seasons.

 

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Posted September 21 2010 - 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stevelecher 

Am I the only one who's not that excited about The Invaders music in Season 4?  This is one of the reasons the show that year seems different and, to me, less exciting than previous seasons.


 

I agree completely.  Other than the finale and a select few episodes, Season 4 was a significant drop-off from the first 3 seasons.  Don't get me wrong.  I'll buy this set if the original music is largely unmolested, but it's not like I'll be drooling for it.

 

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Posted September 21 2010 - 12:25 PM

I also completely agree. I wish another company would obtain the rights to this show and give us a top-notch release of the entire series with some extras. There has to be some people still around that were associated with the original series that could provide some behind the scenes tidbits. I'm sure there's some archival material also that could be used. But mostly to just have the series in "night of original broadcast" form would be a treasure for this fan.



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Posted October 24 2010 - 12:56 AM

The moment of truth is near. What will we get this time? A set comparable to the two Season One sets, or another hearty dose of Mark Heyes keyboards? I can't wait to read the early reviews.



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Posted October 24 2010 - 04:49 AM

Yes, fingers crossed that CBS has finally figured out how not to anger Fugitive fans! Yes, I too am not "drooling" for the fourth season: the writing quality took a steep decline (other than the finale or episodes like "Ivy Maze" or "Dossier of a Diplomat"), the change in library music and yes, the switch to colour (the black and white image really helped establish the tone of the series and create a sense of isolation for Kimble). However, it's still a fine series and the fact that Janssen and the producers decided to end the series before the wheels fell off completely was a smart decision. I won't have time to view the set until December, but I'll check in here to make sure it hasn't been tampered! Posted Image


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Posted October 25 2010 - 04:04 AM

As long as Peter Rugolo's haunting music in the final episode's epilogue: "The Judgment Part Two" is not altered..I'll be happy. If Mark Heyes' music is inserted in that scene when Kimble and Gerard are shaking hands...it would be an absolute travesty.


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Posted October 25 2010 - 08:57 AM

I'll have to get used to one audio change for me in that last scene because my own copy of "The Judgment" is from the original VHS release that used the Canada print in which Conrad says, "Tuesday, September 5th" but in the US version I'm told it was "Tuesday, August 29th".      I have to admit, I like the ring of "September" better but I'll live with that.



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Posted October 25 2010 - 03:56 PM



Originally Posted by Jack P 

I'll have to get used to one audio change for me in that last scene because my own copy of "The Judgment" is from the original VHS release that used the Canada print in which Conrad says, "Tuesday, September 5th" but in the US version I'm told it was "Tuesday, August 29th".      I have to admit, I like the ring of "September" better but I'll live with that.

Tuesday,August 29,1967.."The Judgment" in "The Fugitive"

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Posted October 25 2010 - 05:10 PM

Its a old show was airing on ABC from 1963 to 1967. Now its DVDs are released so its a nice thing to the show lovers that they can find a DVD for themselves to watch there favorite show again.



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Posted November 01 2010 - 10:19 AM

Fedex just showed up with my copy. Have not watched it yet but there is a disclaimer on the back cover saying"music has been changed for this home entertainment version" The hair on the back of my neck just stood up. Oh no, not again. I'll keep my fingers crossed.



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Posted November 01 2010 - 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by disctrip 

Fedex just showed up with my copy. Have not watched it yet but there is a disclaimer on the back cover saying"music has been changed for this home entertainment version" The hair on the back of my neck just stood up. Oh no, not again. I'll keep my fingers crossed.


I wouldn't have expected it any way other way. The question isn't whether music has changed but about how a much.



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Posted November 01 2010 - 11:41 AM

People...people.  The music disclaimer is on EVERY FRICKING CBS Paramount TV release.  It's standard boilerplate. It was on THE FUGITIVE Season 1 Volume 1 and 2 too, and everyone's happy with those.  So let's wait for actual evidence before getting your knickers in a twist.  After confirmation of a problem, feel free to panic as usual!


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Posted November 02 2010 - 07:03 PM

 Well, now I am going to have to get used to watching  this final season in color. I do miss the black and white of the previous episodes, but at least they look good. I almost was going to turn down the color on the tv  just to have it in b & w but I'll adjust! Posted Image



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Posted November 03 2010 - 01:12 AM

When someone has some information about the music in this set, please post it.  I am waiting to see if Im going to purchase it.


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Posted November 03 2010 - 01:37 AM

I'm no score expert, I can't vouch for the music on the first episode, "The Last Oasis," nothing jumped out at me (except that weird Munsters-like-theme song playing in the background at the diner), but the PQ and the color looked great (and quite vivid), and the story was extremely weak. Nothing like what I had been given to expect scriptwise from watching earlier seasons. I hope the writing on the final season episodes gets better than this. There was one good line, where the Arizona Indian orphanage worker is collecting wood with a young orphan and says, "This is the land where our forefathers used to hunt the buffalo ... and the white man used to hunt our forefathers."


There IS no Mark Heyes credit for music at the end of the episode, it was only Pete Rugulo, for what that's worth.



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Posted November 03 2010 - 04:50 AM

The best episodes of the Fugitive were in black and white. It's too bad CBS mangled those. Future generations will now have to endure the black and white episodes from seasons 2 and 3 with those truly wretched music scores. Thanks CBS/Paramount!



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Posted November 03 2010 - 06:01 AM




Originally Posted by Brent Avery 

 Well, now I am going to have to get used to watching  this final season in color. I do miss the black and white of the previous episodes, but at least they look good. I almost was going to turn down the color on the tv  just to have it in b & w but I'll adjust! Posted Image


I wonder if anybody will be doing that (going b&w) when watching, just to have that feel and continuation of if they'll adjust, personally I'll adjust but I do think they should've kept that last season in b&w as well. Believe it or not, even 10 years after this they were still producing some popular shows in monochrome film for television in Europe, not always for economical reasons but deliberately for atmosphere too.