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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   unknownuser200

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Posted August 16 2010 - 03:30 PM

im looking for the best picture on a 50-55" tv out there for 2d mode..I want you can actually get a hold of unlike the godlike pioneer elite.If the which ever model that has best picture does 3d as that is fine i will just not use the 3d as it makes me nauseous.  as i look through reviews almost every set i like seems to have some issue.ie terrible motion blurr.. blooming or the model doesnt last very long in general. Some things im looking for.. Almost true blacks very little jittering/motion blur Vivid/ true colors lasts more then a year descent off angle viewing (1 or 2 seats off dead center) good anti glare (doesnt have to be perfect) true 1080p /24 you know all the things that make a good tv... any help would be amazing.. i apologize if this sounds like a rant ps: if  i can find the pioneer PRO-111FD or the closest thing to it id be happy (doesnt have to be a plasma)

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Posted August 16 2010 - 04:36 PM

Any top of the line plasma is going to fulfill most, if not all, of your criteria.  Don't bother looking at any LCDs.  There are several options with anti-glare screens.  Most likely it will be a choice between Samsung and Panasonic (don't leave out the Premier pro model).

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Posted August 16 2010 - 04:53 PM

samsung PN50C8000 has been something ive been considering also add in i wanna be able to watch this set in a fairly well light room from time to time

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Posted August 17 2010 - 01:45 AM

Plasmas put out sufficient light for most residential environments.  LCDs can be brighter but would only be necessary in extreme circumstances.  Most people don't care to view critical programming (movies, etc.) in extra bright conditions anyway.  High ambient light will seriously contaminate any video image, regardless of display type (even those outdoor true LED displays- ruins dark areas of the picture).  There is no completely effective anti-glare treatment anyway.  Such coatings only diffuse the reflections into a haze, rather than eliminate them.  No TV made can compete with high ambient light.  There will always be deleterious effects upon the picture.  Video displays will always look better in low light.

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Posted August 17 2010 - 05:57 AM

alrighty soo my top picks are the pioneer PRO-111FD  (doubt i can get) samsung PN50C8000 (can only find one review) panisonic tc-p50vt25 (seems to have motion blurr issues) so if you guys can help me narrow it down a bit  or help me find the pioneer thatd be great

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Posted August 17 2010 - 06:02 AM



Originally Posted by unknownuser200 

alrighty soo my top picks are the


pioneer PRO-111FD  (doubt i can get)
samsung PN50C8000 (can only find one review)
panisonic tc-p50vt25 (seems to have motion blurr issues)

so if you guys can help me narrow it down a bit  or help me find the pioneer thatd be great

Where did you get the information about the Panasonic having motion blur?
 



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Posted August 17 2010 - 06:12 AM

http://reviews.plasm...-tcp50vt25.html here and i cant remember where else



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Posted August 17 2010 - 09:31 AM

There was no mention of motion blur in the review.  They did mention that the video processor had some motion artifacts, which is not the same thing.  I don't care much for their review methods, opinions, or conclusions.  Perhaps you can find a better review.

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Posted August 17 2010 - 10:11 AM

VT25 is the creme of the crop this year, it get's my vote over the Samsung. I'd not put much stock in their reviews, because they can't even get proper tv settings right.   As far as light output, My 2010 S2 can make me squint at 75 contrast, so it's got plenty left. I think someone got around 55fl's outta the S2. The newer Neo PDP plasmas from Panasonic put out good light, and use less energy.
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Posted August 17 2010 - 10:47 AM

oh im sorry i thought it was...well im glad im consulting you guys before i make a purchase. Locally i cannot find a dealer. sooo i started looking around online

http://www.justbuyel...-tc-p50vt25-925


i came across this

http://www.justbuyel...tc-p58vt25-1246

58 is a nice price... im seeing some descent reviews  as they have good white glove service. however have any of you purchased from here before?



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Posted August 17 2010 - 10:54 AM

They have a 4.9 out of 5 on google from 198 buyer reviews.   This one is a little more, but has 4.8 out of 5 on 357 reviews.   http://www.bestbuypc...5&ovtac=organic
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Posted August 17 2010 - 03:40 PM

i feel kinda dumb asking this but what is the difference between the pioneer pro 111fd and the pro 101fd? is it the same screen just one doesnt have a tuner and lacks speakers? if soo thatd work just great because i would be useing an hd cable box and surround sound system  anyway and would never use the onboard tuner or speakers

http://www.bestbuypc...best-price.html

if theres a difference please let me know... sorry if im off a bit im farly new to tv world (but not brand new)



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Posted August 17 2010 - 03:43 PM

1) TV Tuner 2) Speakers 3) Pedestal stand   The 101 is strictly a monitor.
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Posted August 17 2010 - 03:52 PM

the only thing i fear is warranty issues as pioneer is pretty much out of the tv game from what i understand... the stand maybe an issue but maybe i can find one somewhere .. if not i suppose i could wall mount it

edit stand problem resolved :

http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/B001DT2TDI

http://www.vanns.com...&v_c=GoogleBase



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Posted August 19 2010 - 04:00 AM

I have purchased from justbuy and their reviews and service are/were rock solid.  I spoke to a specialist there named Eric and he had a very knowledgeable answer for all of my concerns.

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Posted August 23 2010 - 02:49 PM

edit: sooo the samsungs dont touch the panasonics?




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