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#41 of 73 OFFLINE   Ron-P

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Posted November 05 2010 - 07:35 PM



Originally Posted by Aaron Silverman 

As far as I can tell, the sequel is not even a sure thing, let alone "due."



Actually, Kick-Ass: Balls to the Walls was announced a while back and is in production, and due in 2012.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1650554/


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#42 of 73 OFFLINE   ManW_TheUncool

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Posted November 06 2010 - 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Frezon 

...and the five-minute load time my Panasonic BD-10 (1.0 player) had with Avatar.


Hmmm...  Even Mike acquired this BD?  Didn't think this would be your cup of tea Posted Image -- or am I mistaken(?)...



Anyway, I'm really tempted by that BB/Amazon price to blind-buy this after passing on it long ago because of its generally "rotten" showing around the critics circle (both amongst the highly reputable and not) -- and it's even discounted just that tad bit further in my personal Amazon Gold Box list "today only"... Posted Image


One thing that holds me back though is the amount of four letter words and assorted "foul language" apparently rampant in this flick -- not quite so much because I might be offended by them (though maybe it will indeed be a bit much for my taste), but that it may be difficult to find an appropriate time to watch it w/out all that language disturbing others, including my own kids (even if my wife decides she likes it like she did w/ Dogma and Watchmen -- sans a couple of the more gory/extreme takes/scenes in the latter's director's cut).


Hmmm... maybe this could fit into my new "lunch break" on my work-at-home Thursdays schedule (as my wife would say Posted Image)...  Tempting indeed... Posted Image



EDIT: Took another look on RottenTomatoes, and I must've remembered wrong about it getting panned by critics before (though it certainly was not all raves amongst the more reputable critics).  Now that I look again, it was probably Roger Ebert's 1-star review that discouraged me most (although I probably do have it on my currently inactive, Blockbuster Online queue).  Of course, I've also been quite disappointed by a few of Ebert's 4-star raves in the past too, eg. The Cell... Posted Image


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#43 of 73 OFFLINE   Mike Frezon

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Posted November 06 2010 - 03:46 PM



Originally Posted by ManW_TheUncool 



Hmmm...  Even Mike acquired this BD?  Didn't think this would be your cup of tea Posted Image -- or am I mistaken(?)...




You are mistaken...   Posted Image  I was just commenting/comparing on my own long load times with Avatar.


I didn't buy this disc...yet.  I am, however, quite tempted...given how many people here on the HTF have enjoyed it--including Robert Crawford and many others.


But, like you, I'm not quite sure when and where I'll fit it into my queue.  Today, I had the rare couple of hours to myself and used it to watch Planet Terror (Grindhouse).  I actually ripped the plastic off the case of the Steelbook DVD case I purchased when the DVD first went on sale at Best Buy!  Just to give you an idea of how these things sometimes take a fair amount of time for me.  Posted Image


There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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Posted November 06 2010 - 04:17 PM

Posted Image  so how did you enjoy Planet Terror, Mike?  I liked it though I'm not exactly a big fan of the old grindhouse fare unless we count all the somewhat-less gory stuff that came out of the old Hong Kong/Taiwanese studios that both filmmakers (along w/ some others like Sam Raimi) apparently adored and obsessed over in the past -- my wife wasn't as keen on that particular flick, but she's definitely much more squeamish than me... Posted Image


BTW, as I noted in my edit above, Kick-Ass apparently did garner better reviews than I recalled -- Roger Ebert's 1-star notwithstanding.  Maybe I'm rationalizing again (as usual)... Posted Image Posted Image


Too bad though I can't seem to find something else worthwhile to pair up w/ this to qualify for free shipping from Amazon.  Maybe I'll just order it from BB for in-store pickup instead.  Anyone know how long the sale price will last?  Apparently, I was mistaken about the grand opening day for the new nearby BB -- it's actually set for next Friday, instead of last Friday -- so would prefer to just wait for the new BB opening for easier pickup, if the sale price will last...


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Posted November 06 2010 - 04:40 PM



Originally Posted by ManW_TheUncool 

Posted Image  so how did you enjoy Planet Terror, Mike?


I don't want to derail the thread...but I wasn't thrilled with it.  I liked Death Race much better.

I say we should both go out on a limb with Kick-Ass and see what we think!  Posted Image


An awful lot of members here ended up really liking it.  You just have to be okay with the rather unorthodox language from the children.  At least that's the thing I've read most often as being off-putting to viewers.

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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Posted November 06 2010 - 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Frezon 

I don't want to derail the thread...but I wasn't thrilled with it.  I liked Death Race much better.


Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say I was "thrilled" w/ Planet Terror -- I just thought it was fun and likeable enough for the ($10?) price I paid (to the Fulton St vendor Posted Image), which wasn't quite that far off from the current asking price for the Kick-Ass BD (though I don't think the street vendor has discounted it that much yet?).  I probably would've picked up the Death Race BD also for similar price, if it played on the kind of cult film tropes that I find more nostalgic and fun (as in PT). Posted Image


Then again, I've also passed on Shaun of the Dead (and the first Evil Dead -- though just barely) so far while picking up and loving Hot Fuzz -- really looking forward to the blind-buy on Scott Pilgram vs the World now... Posted Image


I say we should both go out on a limb with Kick-Ass and see what we think!  Posted Image


An awful lot of members here ended up really liking it.  You just have to be okay with the rather unorthodox language from the children.  At least that's the thing I've read most often as being off-putting to viewers.


True that.  So am I hearing this right?  You're actually convincing both of us to rationalize... jump on this one for a change? Posted Image Posted Image


Hmmm...  I guess it *could* be delicious Thursday matinee fare for me... Posted Image



EDIT:  Alright, it's a done deal.  I decided to spring for the upcoming Avatar SE BD set (since I held out for this) + Master and Commander BD (which I eyed, but never bought before) w/ Amazon's $5-off offer for the combo to go w/ my personal Gold Box offer for the Kick-Ass BD -- and threw in a ~$4 pack-of-4 Microfiber Wonder Cloths (that my kids and I could use for cleaning our stringed instruments Posted Image) for good measure in case I change my mind and cancel just the Avatar part of the order (for some unlikely better deal by release day Posted Image).  If nothing else, saves me the time and trouble from trekking over to BB just for this BD. Posted Image Posted Image  And my apologies for devolving this part of the thread into general bargain hunting talk (and chatter about other films) that's not wholly relevant to the review... Posted Image


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Posted November 06 2010 - 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by ManW_TheUncool 

EDIT: Took another look on RottenTomatoes, and I must've remembered wrong about it getting panned by critics before (though it certainly was not all raves amongst the more reputable critics).  Now that I look again, it was probably Roger Ebert's 1-star review that discouraged me most (although I probably do have it on my currently inactive, Blockbuster Online queue).  Of course, I've also been quite disappointed by a few of Ebert's 4-star raves in the past too, eg. The Cell... Posted Image


You have to take any of Ebert's reviews for films which involve violence to children with a grain of salt. That is one line with him that, if crossed in a way he deems exploitative, is an automatic deal breaker. Kick-Ass is not filled with violence, but what violence there is is brutal, graphic and with lasting consequences. No PG-13 bloodless bullets here. When characters get shot or stabbed or mutilated, they bleed. When they get punched, they bruise. This rubbed many critics the wrong way, especially since one of the combatants is a preteen girl. Director Matthew Vaughn argued that showing brutally real violence was the only responsible thing to do, because when you show ordinary people dressing up in costumes and putting themselves in the same space as the city's most dangerous people, terrible things happen. If you romanticize it, you're more likely to draw out Kick-Ass copy cats that will get themselves beaten up or killed. I agree with him.



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Posted November 06 2010 - 06:16 PM



Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt 


You have to take any of Ebert's reviews for films which involve violence to children with a grain of salt.



Films, and the taste in them is way to vast, and personal, to take any persons review with anything more then a grain of salt, especially those in the public eye because there's a lot more a play in their reviews then just their opinions and thoughts.


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Posted November 06 2010 - 07:39 PM

Points taken (about Ebert and reviewers in general) although I don't generally just rely on whatever (very limiting) summary ratings, but usually try to read between the lines as need be and understand where the reviewer's coming from to help better gauge my own potential reactions/feelings toward the film.  Sometimes, you just don't need to give something a try to know well enough not to do it (based on contextual understanding of trusted recommendations, advice, etc.), but I guess this is one of those cases that was not so easy to decipher despite Ebert's much more favorable reactions/reviews to recent films like Watchmen or older ones like Natural Born Killers (or even The Cell for that matter).


Anyway, looking forward to checking this one out for myself on some Thursday afternoon when the kids (and neighbors) are not around...


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Posted November 06 2010 - 11:01 PM

To be honest, I take the reviews from regular folks like you guys over anything a film reviewer has to say about a movie.  Over the years, there have been too many films pan by establishment reviewers that have turned out to be very entertaining to me.  I view films to be entertained and if they do that then I'm satisfied as a film lover.






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Posted November 07 2010 - 02:06 AM



Originally Posted by Robert Crawford 

To be honest, I take the reviews from regular folks like you guys over anything a film reviewer has to say about a movie.  Over the years, there have been too many films pan by establishment reviewers that have turned out to be very entertaining to me.  I view films to be entertained and if they do that then I'm satisfied as a film lover.




That's why I mentioned your opinion of the film, Robert.  I agree completely.  Although I really enjoy reading Ebert's writing.


Do I get burned sometimes?  Sure.  But we all do.

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Posted November 08 2010 - 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Ron-P 





Actually, Kick-Ass: Balls to the Walls was announced a while back and is in production, and due in 2012.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1650554/



A note on IMDB doesn't qualify as an official announcement.  Every article I've seen regarding the sequel is entirely vague as to when or if it'll be made.  If you can find something more concrete I'd definitely like to see it!


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Posted November 08 2010 - 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Mike Frezon 

I didn't buy this disc...yet.  I am, however, quite tempted...given how many people here on the HTF have enjoyed it--including Robert Crawford and many others.


Me too.  If I end up not liking this I'm going to blame Crawdaddy. Posted Image


When you said Death Race was better than Planet Terror, did you mean Death Proof?  I found Death Proof (the extended version) boring and stupid.


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Posted November 08 2010 - 07:56 AM

Ooops.  Yup.  I meant Death Proof.


I haven't seen the extended cut.  The theatrical cut seemed plenty long enough for me.  I don't know how much time was added to the original.

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Posted November 08 2010 - 08:01 AM

According to Wiki (and other sources), it went from 90 minutes to 127 minutes!


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Posted November 08 2010 - 08:45 AM

Then I could see where people might have an issue!  Posted Image


But now...back to our regularly scheduled discussion about KickAss.

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Posted November 08 2010 - 02:04 PM



Originally Posted by Aaron Silverman 



A note on IMDB doesn't qualify as an official announcement.  Every article I've seen regarding the sequel is entirely vague as to when or if it'll be made.  If you can find something more concrete I'd definitely like to see it!

I have nothing more concrete then whats on the IMDB page, or what comes up under Google searches. But from everything there, and comments from the director it seems it will happen after he's finished with First Class.
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Posted November 09 2010 - 03:25 AM

I'm interested to hear what Mike and Man think.  I for one really enjoyed Kick Ass--and for $12.99 you can't go wrong!



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Posted April 03 2011 - 11:54 AM



Originally Posted by Adam Gregorich 

I'm interested to hear what Mike and Man think.  I for one really enjoyed Kick Ass--and for $12.99 you can't go wrong!


Mike loved it!  Posted Image


I had another couple of hours to spend with my HT this weekend while my wife was involved in other projects and it was Kick-Ass which got pulled off the shelf.


I thought the film was inventive.  The story and characters were fresh as fresh can be.  I enjoyed myself from beginning to end.  I was hooked right at the opening sequence when the guy takes the dive off the skyscraper.  When the film was over, I realized I had a big grin on my face.  The cast was terrific.  There was humor, action, pathos.  It was a coming-of-age, action thriller...I guess.  Posted Image  I remember when I was a kid...reading my DC comics in the '60s and '70s...hoping upon hope that it would be possible to get the ability to fly.  Posted Image  this movie really spoke to my childhood in that way.  Great premise.


One of the things I found the most fun was the constant realization on the part of the characters about how difficult it would be to be a superhero in the real world...but to then, as a viewer, get caught up in some of the amazing action sequences only to be challenged to suspend your belief that these characters could really be performing these acts.

Hit Girl absolutely stole the film.


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Posted June 24 2011 - 07:09 AM

Finally got around to seeing this one on BD (after repeated postponements in trying to find a good time for it).


I (and my wife) concur w/ Mike -- and my wife might actually like it even more than me despite being a little bit squeamish about a couple of moments (eg. the giant microwave moment). Posted Image  Definitely not for the squeamish though -- and it's definitely very much for a "mature" audience.



One thing.  I had trouble getting the BD to load on my Panny BD60 and finally had to try my first firmware update on the player for it.  After the firmware update, the disc loaded and played just fine (even though it took a long while to load), but I did have playback trouble (eg. image breakup, freezing, skipping, etc.) w/ the first several minutes of the long making-of documentary and am not sure if other special features will work.  And then, when we tried loading it again a couple days later, we had the exact same problem of it not loading again.  The player tries to read the disc for a couple minutes and then stops and says it cannot read the disc (just like before the firmware update).


Very strange since I did get it to work (the one time) right after the firmware update.  Given what's been said about problems w/ the disc, I'm wondering if I just need a way to flush whatever might be stored in the player's built-in persistent memory in order to get it to work again -- I'm guessing its memory was flushed w/ the firmware update.  The player doesn't seem to offer any simple way to flush its persistent memory -- and doing some sort of full factory reset is probably not a viable solution since I'd probably need to do this everytime I try to load the disc, if that's the case.  And no, I don't have an SD card in the player and never allowed it to connect to the internet for BD-Live.  Of course, there's also the possibility that my disc is bad since I did have some playback trouble w/ the long documentary the one time I got the disc to work -- nothing is visibly wrong w/ the disc though.


Anyone else having trouble getting the disc to work again in subsequent tries after previously successful playback?


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