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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   bigdog8

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Posted April 26 2010 - 12:24 PM

Am I correct in thinking that a SSF would fix this? A Reckhorn B-1 for example? Or is there something better?


#2 of 16 OFFLINE   Robert_J

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Posted April 26 2010 - 11:46 PM

A subsonic filter won't fix this.  You need to turn down your low pass crossover.  Most of us like to set ours at 80hz.  That is at least a good starting point.  The higher you go, the more vocals will come through your sub.


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Posted April 27 2010 - 02:45 AM

there is no way to keep all vocals from coming threw?


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Posted April 27 2010 - 02:51 AM

With the crossover set correctly, there shouldn't be a problem.  What is your crossover set at?

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Posted April 27 2010 - 05:27 AM

What kind of sub?  Is there some lfe switch or something that's in the wrong position?

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Posted April 27 2010 - 05:30 AM

I'm just running it out of the sub output of my pyle receiver and there is no way to adjust it. I'm running 4 Dayton DVC 15"s powered by a behringer EP4000


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Posted April 27 2010 - 05:43 AM

Oh I see.  I'm not as familiar with that equipment but if the pyle receiver doesn't allow control of the crossover frequency then I guess you would need some sort of external crossover.  I'm surprised the receiver wouldn't have the low pass built in somewhere. Someone might know more about this specifc configuration and be able to suggest a component.

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Posted April 27 2010 - 05:57 AM

what about something like the Pyramid CR65. Could I just plug my sub outputs into one side then the other side into my amp? Would this work?


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Posted April 27 2010 - 08:31 AM

I didn't know that Pyle made a receiver with an LFE/sub output.  What model?

Adding an external crossover like the Pyramid may give you a gap in the frequency response.  If your Pyle has a crossover set at 160 hz and you use an external crossover set at 60 hz.  You are missing everything between 60 hz and 100 hz.  And I didn't know Pyramid was still around.  I still have some 15" subs from my girlfriend's (now wife) car from the late '80's.  You do know you will need an AC to DC power supply for any 12v DC equipment.


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Posted April 27 2010 - 08:35 AM

I have a pyle PD-3000A. can you suggest something better to cut the vocals out?


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Posted April 27 2010 - 10:54 AM

It doesn't look like the Pyle has a high pass filter on its speaker outputs so it would not hurt to use the Pyramid crossover.  Just power it with something like this and it will work just fine.  http://www.parts-exp...tnumber=120-532

I really love that Pyle has stayed true to their marketing department and publish the IHBL wattage ratings.  (IHBL = If Hit By Lightning)


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Posted April 27 2010 - 05:10 PM

So i would just clip the power adapter off the end of the pyramid crossover and connect the wires to the red/black on the PSU? Is there any difference in the Pyramid CR65 and CR66? And for this crossover I could just plug my sub outs into the in and then run the out to the amp correct?


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Posted April 27 2010 - 05:16 PM

i got the PSU figured out forget i asked lol. but to me the difference in the CR65 and 66 is the cut hz? would i want the 80,120,180 option one or the 50,90,180 one?


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Posted April 27 2010 - 11:48 PM

I like the one that has 50 & 90 hz.  My receiver has an 80hz crossover but there is very little difference between 80hz and 90hz.  But the 50hz option is nice if your mains can go that low without much effort.


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Posted April 28 2010 - 10:03 AM

ok i ordered the 50,90,180. what would you suggest I set it to? 90? Also as far as the bass boost, should I use it? If so what should it be set to? 45,80,120?


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Posted April 28 2010 - 10:40 AM

Never, ever, ever use bass boost in your car or home.  It is evil and will kill your subs.

Set the crossover at 50 or 90.





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