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#21 of 67 Bryan^H

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Posted April 25 2010 - 05:37 PM

I can't wait to see this on Blu-Ray.  I missed it in the theater/img/vbsmilies/htf/frown.gif and I haven't watched it on dvd since I picked up my HD tv set a couple years ago.  Watching it now should almost be as good as in the theater.  With my surround setup, I'm expecting to be "blown away"......literally.

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#22 of 67 Robert Crawford

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Posted April 25 2010 - 09:01 PM



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No, of course not. I was using an extreme hypothesis to make the point that a reasonably open-minded person can still be startled by an opinion that contradicts everything he has come to believe and accept.

I don't think Saving Private Ryan is a bad movie. I just don't think it is a truly great one. I agree with the consensus that it has near the begining an exceptionally good battle sequence incorporating demonstration quality use of directional sound, and that everything that follows is a bit of a let-down and is not especially thought-provoking, moving or exciting.


 
The general consensus is that Saving Private Ryan is a great movie whether you agree with that opinion or not.  As far as thought-provoking, I will never forget walking out of a sold-out movie theater after watching Saving Private Ryan for the first time.  It was the first time, I observed a sold out audience leaving the theater in dead silence and you could tell by the looks on their faces that most of us were still digesting what we've observed over the last 2.5 hours.  Afterwards, I talked with several friends about this film and their reaction was that Saving Private Ryan really struck a chord with them about the horror of war and the ultimate sacrifice that many soldiers gave to their country.

Personally, I wouldn't call Saving Private Ryan the greatest "war" film ever made, but it's in the top 10-15 in my opinion.  It's impact on the film industry gave us Band of Brothers and The Pacific while it will most likely continue to influence future film-making of "war" films for many more years to come.





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Posted April 25 2010 - 09:24 PM



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That's my position too.

The idea that Saving Private Ryan is better than, for example, The Bridge On The River Kwai, Lawrence Of Arabia, Zulu, Zulu Dawn and Patton I find astonishing.
I don't know if its better than those films, but it is surely right up there with them. And a much better film than Patton in my own opinion.

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Posted April 25 2010 - 09:40 PM



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No, of course not. I was using an extreme hypothesis to make the point that a reasonably open-minded person can still be startled by an opinion that contradicts everything he has come to believe and accept.

I don't think Saving Private Ryan is a bad movie. I just don't think it is a truly great one. I agree with the consensus that it has near the begining an exceptionally good battle sequence incorporating demonstration quality use of directional sound, and that everything that follows is a bit of a let-down and is not especially thought-provoking, moving or exciting.

I think that Saving Private Ryan is a truly great film. Is it the greatest war film ever made? I have no idea. However I found it extremely though provoking.

Yes the plot is a fairly standard "squad" film where you get to know each of the men, but it is told with such virtuosity as to rise above its basic "movie formula" plot in to a truly great film.

I saw this film in a theater with a small group of World War 2 vets. It was a very moving experience for me, and clearly was for them. My group went to a coffee shop after words and ended up talking about the film till 3am. For me this is one of the best films of the last 20 years, if not the best.

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Posted April 25 2010 - 11:32 PM

Its funny what you take away from a film. I remember watching SPR and thinking to myself I didn't want to watch it again as it really bothered me on an emotional level. One scene in particular scared the hell out of me and that was when the Tiger tank is advancing on the teams position and all you hear in the background is the sound of its engine and mechanical clank of its track. The feeling of impending doom just overtook me and I almost left the theater. I went with a close friend and, like Crawdaddy experienced, you could hear a pin drop at the end. Nobody said a thing to one another as we were leaving.

I have watched about every war film made and none of them had this type of emotional impact on me. I really can't pinpoint what scene caused this emotion or that feeling but for me what SPR brought to bear was a feeling of being there in the moment and not just watching a dramatization (even though it was) of a piece of our history. 





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Posted April 26 2010 - 01:59 AM



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May I also add a vote for "A midnight clear"? Anyone?
An excellent film that I would buy on BD in a heartbeat.

As for Saving Private Ryan, unfortunately, I had a horrible screening experience at the cinema.  Sitting next to me was a young couple (about 20 years old) and the girl had her hands over her eyes for the entire opening sequence (and much of the rest of the film).  That was not especially bothersome in and of itself, but it had a nasty consequence.  Her boyfriend spent the entire time describing, quite loudly, every detail she was not watching ("and now, there's a guy with his arm blown off standing around looking for it" and "there's a guy puking over the side of the boat" and so on).  Despite my (and other) protestations, he refused to shut up or tone down his voice.  By the time an usher could make his way to us (centre row in a huge, packed cinema), the sequence was ruined--and the usher was too cowardly to do anything about it.  

My complaint to management got me a refund, but it did nothing to undo the ruined impact of the opening sequence.  I've seen it subsequently several times, of course, but it is impossible to create the same powerful impression as a proper first viewing does.  

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Posted April 26 2010 - 05:21 AM

Too bad, Paul, that that's the memory with which you're left.  /img/vbsmilies/htf/thumbsdown.gif

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Posted April 26 2010 - 05:52 AM

I think Saving Private Ryan is one of the best war movies ever.  There is only one war movie(I have seen) that I feel is much better....Platoon.  Vietnam has always fascinated me for some odd reason. Platoon on Blu-Ray would be most welcome.

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Posted April 26 2010 - 07:10 AM

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You're right, it's not fair to compare a 2 hour movie to a 10 hour series.

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Let me rephrase:  IMO at least 7-8 episodes of Band of Brothers are individually superior to SPR. :)  I found them riveting for reasons beyond the battle sequences and production values.

This conversation comes up all the time because so many people consider SPR to be one of the greatest war films of all time.  Like Robin, I would not put it in the class of films like River Kwai or Lawrence.  (Patton or Zulu -- maybe. :) )


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Posted April 26 2010 - 07:51 AM

Very much looking forward to this one's release. I always enjoy this when I watch it although there are still bits that have me so tense I bite my fingernails.

On a side note, I wonder how long it will be after the release before somebody starts complaining on a forum somewhere that the vaunted Blu-Ray high definition is OBVIOUSLY not worth the money, because there are streaks and smears in places on the screen during the opening sequence. :)

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Posted April 26 2010 - 08:07 AM



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On a side note, I wonder how long it will be after the release before somebody starts complaining on a forum somewhere that the vaunted Blu-Ray high definition is OBVIOUSLY not worth the money, because there are streaks and smears in places on the screen during the opening sequence. :)
I'd like to think that everyone who's remotely interested in the movie knows enough about how and why it was shot the way Kaminski shot it. Of course that could be said about other movies too, and I've been wrong about some of those before.

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Posted April 27 2010 - 12:56 AM

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On a side note, I wonder how long it will be after the release before somebody starts complaining on a forum somewhere that the vaunted Blu-Ray high definition is OBVIOUSLY not worth the money, because there are streaks and smears in places on the screen during the opening sequence. :)
It already kinda happened at a certain audio video forum of "scientists":
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 was meant to be a window into 'real life'".  I love the part where the guy is saying a visit to the beach 64 years later represents the "true" vision of the film.  Also, note that last sentence is talking about film grain.  Which he then tried to claim Spielberg didn't mean to put in the film! 
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Posted April 27 2010 - 04:00 AM

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Posted April 27 2010 - 08:18 AM

just got my copy of SPR on Blu-Ray

awesome!

the quandry - do I watch this first, or Avatar on Blu-Ray which I also received today??


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Posted April 27 2010 - 08:20 AM

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the quandry - do I watch this first, or Avatar on Blu-Ray which I also received today??
 

I say you watch Saving Private Ryan since it's not out yet (in Region A) so you can rub it our North American faces.

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Posted April 27 2010 - 11:45 AM

I just wanted to confirm that the BD release of Saving Private Ryan will be DTS-HD Master Audio.

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Posted April 27 2010 - 12:42 PM

Thank you, Paramount. Hope to be hearing more from you.   :)


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Posted April 29 2010 - 04:46 AM

Amazon has dropped its pre-order price on SPR to $22.99.

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Posted April 29 2010 - 04:59 AM

^ I know we're not really supposed to talk about prices before they're published but Best Buy's price will be cheaper.



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Posted April 29 2010 - 05:10 AM

The review copy arrived this morning - I am eager to get home and begin my review. I can tell you now, that my review of the film will be highly positive as I consider this film one of the most important of the last 25 years.
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