Jump to content



Sign up for a free account to remove the pop-up ads

Signing up for an account is fast and free. As a member you can join in the conversation, enter contests and remove the pop-up ads that guests get. Click here to create your free account.

Photo
- - - - -

AVATAR Blu-ray Looks Amazing


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
142 replies to this topic

#1 of 143 OFFLINE   Tino

Tino

    Producer



  • 5,935 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 1999
  • Real Name:Valentino
  • LocationMetro NYC

Posted April 20 2010 - 11:25 PM

I was able to snag a copy of AVATAR on blu-ray early and I think it looks stunning!

I saw it in IMAX 3D a few times and the blu-ray is as close to that presentation as I have ever seen. Crystal clear images, almost 3D like (




It's gonna be a hell of a ride. I'm ready. .

#2 of 143 OFFLINE   cineMANIAC

cineMANIAC

    Screenwriter



  • 1,959 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 03 2008
  • Real Name:Luis
  • LocationNew York City

Posted April 21 2010 - 01:01 AM

I never really paid any attention to the picture quality of movies shown theatrically and never thought to myself Wow, this looks great! while watching a movie in a theater so I'll never understand when people say things like "It looked as pristine as a first-run print" when reviewing a DVD/BD. I fully expect new films to look flawless on Blu-ray and don't buy the argument that leaving out supplements to make full use of disc space will yield better picture quality. Having said that I look forward to adding Avatar to my film collection!
RIP Roberto Gomez Bolanos.

#3 of 143 OFFLINE   cafink

cafink

    Producer



  • 3,045 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 1999

Posted April 21 2010 - 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by Luisito34 

I fully expect new films to look flawless on Blu-ray and don't buy the argument that leaving out supplements to make full use of disc space will yield better picture quality. 
Uh, which part don't you buy?  That leaving out supplements leaves more disc space for the picture?  Or that less compression actually yields better picture quality?  There's certainly an argument to be made regarding the diminishing returns that set in after a certain point, and where that point is, but it seems pretty weird to suggest that more disc space for the movie won't improve picture quality.
 

 


#4 of 143 ONLINE   TravisR

TravisR

    Studio Mogul



  • 22,678 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 15 2004
  • LocationThe basement of the FBI building

Posted April 21 2010 - 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by cafink 

There's certainly an argument to be made regarding the diminishing returns that set in after a certain point, and where that point is, but it seems pretty weird to suggest that more disc space for the movie won't improve picture quality.

Of course, more space will yield a better picture but having some special features on the disc isn't going to tank the PQ either. Does anyone seriously think that the A/V quality on the SE will be compromised because there will be special features (presumably there will be at least a commentary and maybe multi-angle features) on the disc?

#5 of 143 OFFLINE   Tino

Tino

    Producer



  • 5,935 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 1999
  • Real Name:Valentino
  • LocationMetro NYC

Posted April 21 2010 - 01:32 AM



Originally Posted by Luisito34 ">

I never really paid any attention to the picture quality of movies shown theatrically and never thought to myself Wow, this looks great! while watching a movie in a theater so I'll never understand when people say things like "It looked as pristine as a first-run print" when reviewing a DVD/BD. I fully expect new films to look flawless on Blu-ray and don't buy the argument that leaving out supplements to make full use of disc space will yield better picture quality. Having said that I look forward to adding Avatar to my film collection!
My point is that the IMAX viewings of AVATAR I saw were amazing and this Blu-ray transfer is as stunning as the IMAX print.

And while you may "expect new films to look flawless on blu-ray", few do. This one does.

Understand?<br /></span>
<br />

					
					<br />
					
				</div>
				
				
								
				
					<div class= It's gonna be a hell of a ride. I'm ready. .

#6 of 143 OFFLINE   Tino

Tino

    Producer



  • 5,935 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 1999
  • Real Name:Valentino
  • LocationMetro NYC

Posted April 21 2010 - 01:37 AM



Originally Posted by TravisR 



Of course, more space will yield a better picture but having some special features on the disc isn't going to tank the PQ either. Does anyone seriously think that the A/V quality on the SE will be compromised because there will be special features (presumably there will be at least a commentary and maybe multi-angle features) on the disc?
Maybe they will split the SE onto 2 BD 50's to handle supplements and extra scenes. Similar to the TITANIC SE on SDVD.


It's gonna be a hell of a ride. I'm ready. .

#7 of 143 OFFLINE   Chuck Mayer

Chuck Mayer

    Lead Actor



  • 8,009 posts
  • Join Date: Aug 06 2001
  • Real Name:Chuck Mayer
  • LocationNorthern Virginia

Posted April 21 2010 - 01:37 AM

Great news, Tino.  Getting my copy tomorrow.  Like everyone else not living in the APPLE.
Hey buddy...did you just see a real bright light?

#8 of 143 OFFLINE   mattCR

mattCR

    Executive Producer



  • 10,173 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 05 2005
  • Real Name:Matt
  • LocationOverland Park, KS

Posted April 21 2010 - 01:40 AM

Mailman just delivered mine (in Kansas City!) looks like it was mailed yesterday.  I'll look at it later tonight.  :)

trakt.tv

Ask Me about HTPC! (Threads in HTPC / PMs always responded to)

This signature is povided by MediaBrowser 3 Trakt Plugin: Media Browser 3


#9 of 143 OFFLINE   HDvision

HDvision

    Supporting Actor



  • 991 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 11 2007
  • Real Name:David
  • LocationParis, France

Posted April 21 2010 - 06:24 AM

 Got mine, it's the greatest blu-ray ever made. Anyone who have reservations about the PQ is a nutter. Audio is awesome too, Cameron Laserdisc reference quality (you know, not mp3 like on DVD).

#10 of 143 OFFLINE   mattCR

mattCR

    Executive Producer



  • 10,173 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 05 2005
  • Real Name:Matt
  • LocationOverland Park, KS

Posted April 21 2010 - 07:41 AM

Just so people can understand this:
Good BD's have an average weighted bitrate around 22Mb.  "Avatar" has an average weighted of about 34; peaks at over 40! (40.8), and never drops below 25.  The DTS-MA track is also near perfect.  with it's base rate at near 3.6Mb, high rate of 5.2! 

Both of these absolutely press the boundaries of spec.  People had wondered how to equate this, and they had shrugged off "superbit" comparison, but I don't know of any other way.  There is no title released that I can think of that carries even close to the bitrate.  And a large number of titles that we think of as "good" that are encoded at around 1/2 the bitrate.

I'll have to sit down and watch through it tonight, but it is a very bare.. but very high quality, production.
trakt.tv

Ask Me about HTPC! (Threads in HTPC / PMs always responded to)

This signature is povided by MediaBrowser 3 Trakt Plugin: Media Browser 3


#11 of 143 OFFLINE   TheBat

TheBat

    Producer



  • 3,033 posts
  • Join Date: Aug 02 1999

Posted April 21 2010 - 07:53 AM

the only other title that I can think of is akira. it has a strong bitrate for trueHD at 192. 

Jacob


#12 of 143 OFFLINE   FreyTheater

FreyTheater

    Stunt Coordinator



  • 110 posts
  • Join Date: Aug 29 2009
  • Real Name:Troy Frey
  • LocationAmish Country - Lancaster County, Pennsylvania

Posted April 21 2010 - 07:53 AM

Man, I'm chomping at the bit for my copy, I'm picking up my pre-ordered BD tomorrow over my lunch hour, and then I have a Movie Night showing right away tomorrow night in my projection theater for 8 people!  Plus, three more showings over the next two weekends - so far!  Almost everyone I know wants to come see this in my theater, I'm really gonna be putting a few hours on my projector bulb for this one!

Love to hear about the video quality of this film, I really like that they jacked up the video to the max on this release -- I could care less about extra features on a BD or DVD, I don't ever watch them anyway.  I am very sensitive to BD image quality - the difference is extremely noticable when a BD is projected on a big screen.  So, I am definitely not a fan of intentionally-added film grain to BDs, either.

Heck, I'm expecting this BD copy of Avatar to be as good as "dvdvision's HTF avatar"... lol!
Come FEEL a great movie in the FREYMAX 3D Theater!
 

 


#13 of 143 OFFLINE   Tino

Tino

    Producer



  • 5,935 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 1999
  • Real Name:Valentino
  • LocationMetro NYC

Posted April 21 2010 - 08:01 AM

I'll be surprised if this doesn't get 5/5 across the board.
It's gonna be a hell of a ride. I'm ready. .

#14 of 143 OFFLINE   Adam Gregorich

Adam Gregorich

    Executive Producer



  • 14,974 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 20 1999
  • LocationThe Other Washington

Posted April 21 2010 - 08:10 AM



Originally Posted by mattCR 

Just so people can understand this:

Good BD's have an average weighted bitrate around 22Mb.  "Avatar" has an average weighted of about 34; peaks at over 40! (40.8), and never drops below 25.  The DTS-MA track is also near perfect.  with it's base rate at near 3.6Mb, high rate of 5.2! 

Both of these absolutely press the boundaries of spec.  People had wondered how to equate this, and they had shrugged off "superbit" comparison, but I don't know of any other way.  There is no title released that I can think of that carries even close to the bitrate.  And a large number of titles that we think of as "good" that are encoded at around 1/2 the bitrate.

I'll have to sit down and watch through it tonight, but it is a very bare.. but very high quality, production.

Well put.  Thanks for the breakdown.


#15 of 143 OFFLINE   Adam Gregorich

Adam Gregorich

    Executive Producer



  • 14,974 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 20 1999
  • LocationThe Other Washington

Posted April 21 2010 - 08:29 AM

You guys are going to hate me by the end of the day for making an appearance in just about every Avatar thread, but Jon Landau the producer of Avatar and Titanic will be here for a chat on Tuesday 4/27 from 5-7 to discuss the film and Blu-ray release.  Check out the HTF chat page for full details.  If you are happy with the disc let him know, and if you want to hear about the upcoming special edition it would be worth attending!

#16 of 143 OFFLINE   Ron-P

Ron-P

    Producer



  • 6,283 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 25 2000
  • Real Name:Ron

Posted April 21 2010 - 09:05 AM



Originally Posted by mattCR 

Just so people can understand this:
Good BD's have an average weighted bitrate around 22Mb.  "Avatar" has an average weighted of about 34; peaks at over 40! (40.8), and never drops below 25.  The DTS-MA track is also near perfect.  with it's base rate at near 3.6Mb, high rate of 5.2! 

Both of these absolutely press the boundaries of spec.  People had wondered how to equate this, and they had shrugged off "superbit" comparison, but I don't know of any other way.  There is no title released that I can think of that carries even close to the bitrate.  And a large number of titles that we think of as "good" that are encoded at around 1/2 the bitrate.

I'll have to sit down and watch through it tonight, but it is a very bare.. but very high quality, production.

Awesome, thanks for the info. I would much rather have a high quality bare bones release then one packed with extras that I'll never watch.
 
You have all the weapons you need...Now fight!


#17 of 143 Guest__*

Guest__*
  • Join Date: --

Posted April 21 2010 - 09:33 AM



Originally Posted by mattCR 

Good BD's have an average weighted bitrate around 22Mb.  "Avatar" has an average weighted of about 34; peaks at over 40! (40.8), and never drops below 25.  The DTS-MA track is also near perfect.  with it's base rate at near 3.6Mb, high rate of 5.2! 

HOLY SMOKES! Can't wait!

Anyone can say how much data it takes up on the disc?



#18 of 143 OFFLINE   mattCR

mattCR

    Executive Producer



  • 10,173 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 05 2005
  • Real Name:Matt
  • LocationOverland Park, KS

Posted April 21 2010 - 09:37 AM

45GB.. out of a total possible of 50G.  Tell you much?

trakt.tv

Ask Me about HTPC! (Threads in HTPC / PMs always responded to)

This signature is povided by MediaBrowser 3 Trakt Plugin: Media Browser 3


#19 of 143 Guest__*

Guest__*
  • Join Date: --

Posted April 21 2010 - 09:42 AM



Originally Posted by mattCR [url=/forum/thread/299951/avatar-blu-ray-looks-amazing#post_3683491]

So which scenes maxxed out the specs you mentioned? Sorry about geeking out on ya, my copy is still 2 days away. Thanks so much!


#20 of 143 OFFLINE   Tino

Tino

    Producer



  • 5,935 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 1999
  • Real Name:Valentino
  • LocationMetro NYC

Posted April 21 2010 - 09:52 AM

A nice little bonus that the disc does have is the resume feature which remembers where you left off.

Well......it's somthing.
It's gonna be a hell of a ride. I'm ready. .