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A few words about...™ The African Queen -- in Blu-ray

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#141 of 151 OFFLINE   Bleddyn Williams

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Posted April 23 2010 - 05:08 AM

Those of us who have been waiting for a nice price on this might be interested in what apparently is a one day price of $15 at Best Buy...

http://www.bestbuy.c...queen&lp=2&cp=1

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#142 of 151 OFFLINE   SAhmed

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Posted April 23 2010 - 05:36 AM

Hi Bleddyn,

Really appreciate the heads up - just bought it !

Regards,

#143 of 151 OFFLINE   Bleddyn Williams

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Posted April 23 2010 - 11:07 AM

 You're welcome, SAhmed - I came across it in another forum and wanted to make sure the news was here too!

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Posted May 28 2010 - 01:36 AM

Cross-posting from "that other forum":


I finally watched most of it yesterday. It was my first viewing since seeing it in a college theatre about 32 years ago (ouch!).

Anyway, the BD looks spectacular. Very clean image (dirt/dust removal was thorough), highly detailed, contrast looked rock-solid, and I didn't even notice loss of resolution in the cross-fades.

I guess this is my age showing, but the models and rear-projection scenes didn't bother me at all. In fact, in many films, the rear projection contrast doesn't match the foreground actors, but I didn't find that problem at all in this BD.

And, after complaining bitterly about having only DD audio, I found the audio quite satisfactory. There were a few harsh crescendoes in the score that are a result of the old soundtrack, but overall the sound was very clear, detailed, and pleasing.

Well done!

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Posted May 28 2010 - 02:23 AM



Originally Posted by Doug Otte 

...and I didn't even notice loss of resolution in the cross-fades.


Is there a thread somewhere which explains this?  It's a phenomenon I notice all the time on older films.  That when there are dissolves from one scene to another, the restoration of the film-in-question sort of disappears (colors fade, noise appears, etc.).


I've always wondered why that is.



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Posted May 28 2010 - 02:45 AM



Originally Posted by Mike Frezon 




Is there a thread somewhere which explains this?  It's a phenomenon I notice all the time on older films.  That when there are dissolves from one scene to another, the restoration of the film-in-question sort of disappears (colors fade, noise appears, etc.).


I've always wondered why that is.



The simple answer is since a dissolve involves reprinting two strips of film onto a third, you're going down a few generations from the negative in the process.   That introduces grain, increased contrast, and in the case of Eastman materials, color shifting.



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Posted May 28 2010 - 08:11 AM

The bigger problem at hand is with Eastman color films, stocks for printing opticals on tend to fade faster that camera neg (doesn't apply too three-strip productions, obviously).


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Posted May 28 2010 - 09:22 AM



Originally Posted by Mike Frezon 




Is there a thread somewhere which explains this?  It's a phenomenon I notice all the time on older films.  That when there are dissolves from one scene to another, the restoration of the film-in-question sort of disappears (colors fade, noise appears, etc.).


I've always wondered why that is.


http://www.dvdsavant.../s3211tech.html


This article addresses the different types of methods used.



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Posted May 28 2010 - 12:26 PM



Originally Posted by Mark B 



http://www.dvdsavant.../s3211tech.html


This article addresses the different types of methods used.


3-strip went to black and white masters as dupes and back to negative to be cut in as a replacement for printer functions.


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Posted June 19 2010 - 02:30 AM

The UK Blu Ray had the Jack Cardiff commentary.


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Posted December 03 2011 - 06:00 AM

So there you have it. The African Queen finally arrives in not only DVD, but Blu-ray from Paramount. And to my eye, it looks as it should. Grain has an overall natural appearance, with only an occasional hint of it holding in place. Color and densities are what they should be. Here is one of the true classics of the cinema, in rare and near perfect form, scanned in the UK, put together, color corrected and readied by Warner's MPI in Burbank. If you feel the need to write a letter to the studio and thank someone, aim it directly toward Ron Smith. This will be one of the truly important classic releases of 2010, and should be in every serious library. Only a single decision remains. Does one purchase one of the Blu-ray editions that will emerge on March 23, or wait for the (still in process) 3-D version due in November, rumored to be inclusive of small vials of live leeches which can be used, a la Rocky Horror Show, while in a proper viewing environment.

Here's a link on the restoration process, an Adobe flash player file; sadly, it's not included in the Blu-ray: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4307 Adam, I didn't post this on the My Fair Lady thread, but for anyone who's interested, I find this informative on how such work is done, although the issues with African Queen are unique, in some respects. I wish an Industrial Light & Magic reconstruction in CGI was done on the lousy "process", i.e., blue screen shots but c'est la vie!