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#1 of 32 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted March 02 2010 - 05:31 AM

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#2 of 32 OFFLINE   kemcha

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Posted March 03 2010 - 07:23 AM

Ron, thanks for posting this. However, I'm disappointed that Kelly's Heroes and Where Eagles Dare aren't being released as Separate Blu-ray releases. I actually wanted kelly's Heroes as a separate Blu-ray.

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Posted March 03 2010 - 08:03 AM

Not Crazy about the cover art, but like the previous post, not happy at all with combining Where Eagles Dare with any other film. I know you should be able to fit a film of it running time w/ decent compression on a 25GB disc, just seems kind of a let down.

Where Eagles Dare deserved a 50 GB Special Edition. I am hoping for a nice lossless audio track.

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#4 of 32 OFFLINE   Robert Crawford

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Posted March 03 2010 - 09:55 AM

If you shop at Amazon, you have options to buy the US release for 17.49 which has Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes together or you can buy the UK releases with them being separate releases at 18.80 each including shipping.  By the way, the UK releases are out on June 7th. Crawdaddy

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Posted March 03 2010 - 11:15 AM

Is the Kelly/Eagles double bill on one disc or two? I know the recent WB double features have been on single discs, but those are both fairly long films. Hopefully, they'll each get a BD 50.
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Posted March 03 2010 - 11:43 AM

I'm rather disappointed that The Outlaw Josey Wales isn't coming to Blu-Ray.

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Posted March 03 2010 - 12:28 PM

Well, if each movie is on its own separate Blu-ray, then it won't be so bad. But, I dislike those double sided disks so much that I now refuse to buy them. The only exception are TV Shows on DVD where it's a release that I need to complete my library. 

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Posted March 03 2010 - 01:30 PM

^ I am pretty sure the BDs will be on single-sided (but dual-layer) discs, not double-sided in the way of Uni's combo discs. Please tell me I'm not wrong...


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Posted March 03 2010 - 02:04 PM

The Warner double features so far have all been on single-sided BD 50s. The problem is that Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes are both around 2 1/2 hours long, which would be a very tight squeeze on a BD 50.
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Posted March 03 2010 - 02:56 PM

This is why I have passed on the Bourne Blu-rays. I think Universal screwed up when they released all three movies as double sided disks. I think that studios who are releasing these Blu-ray/DVD combos should be taking a clue from Disney, which has been releasing their movies via the Blu-ray/DVD combo but that the DVD version is on the second disk, not on the flip side. 

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Posted March 03 2010 - 03:20 PM

I have noticed PQ compromises with ~3.6 hours on a BD-50, as compared to equal source of excellent quality similarly encoded (same encoder I mean, but with different "settings") with ~3 hours on a BD-50 (TV on BD). It's small, but if I can notice it without trying I'm sure the eagle eyes here would be all over it. OTOH GWTW is ~4 hours and it's fine on a BD-50...maybe a better encoding method, or the source just encodes better with less bits. Still...I'm not buying ~5 hours an a BD-50 isn't compromised to what it could be, unless of course what it is source-wise isn't that great.

Originally Posted by Worth 

The Warner double features so far have all been on single-sided BD 50s. The problem is that Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes are both around 2 1/2 hours long, which would be a very tight squeeze on a BD 50.


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Posted March 03 2010 - 05:38 PM

I'm waiting for the rest of the Eastwood westerns, and will be picking up Bridges of Madison County whenever it's released on Blu.


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Posted March 03 2010 - 07:27 PM



Originally Posted by Worth 

The Warner double features so far have all been on single-sided BD 50s. The problem is that Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes are both around 2 1/2 hours long, which would be a very tight squeeze on a BD 50.
Technically Dirty Harry and Magnum Force were each on their own disc, but they did have a prior release wherein the discs were simply recycled for the double feature release.

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Posted March 03 2010 - 07:32 PM



Originally Posted by Martin Teller 

I'm rather disappointed that The Outlaw Josey Wales isn't coming to Blu-Ray.
With how well Eastwood seemingly sells for Warner (this wave of releases will make it 18 of his Warner owned films on Blu) I wouldn't be shocked to see it arrive in 2011. (And I hope it comes with two of my favorites, A Perfect World and White Hunter Black Heart).

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Posted March 04 2010 - 12:55 AM



Originally Posted by kemcha 

This is why I have passed on the Bourne Blu-rays. I think Universal screwed up when they released all three movies as double sided disks. I think that studios who are releasing these Blu-ray/DVD combos should be taking a clue from Disney, which has been releasing their movies via the Blu-ray/DVD combo but that the DVD version is on the second disk, not on the flip side. 
The Warner double bills aren't flipper discs. They're two movies on one, single-sided disc. So far, Universal is the only studio that uses flippers for blu-ray.

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Posted March 04 2010 - 10:10 AM

That is not what I have heard. I have read from comments on HTF Forums, Amazon, Best Buy, Target and many other retailer sites where someone has reviewed it where they have said that the Blu-ray/DVD's have the Blu-ray on one side and the DVD on the other.

Also, I don't see how these studios can fit two movies on one side of a Blu-ray disk. If I'm not mistaken, the disks have a capacity of 50GB and that most of that space is taken up by the movie and since it's HD, that it takes up a lot of that space, not to mention the bonus features that probably would be included with each movie.

I just don't see how two movies can fit onto one side of a Blu-ray disk. There definitely wouldn't be  any room for lossless audio for the movies, 7.1 audio for both movies or the space necessarily for those movies.



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Posted March 04 2010 - 10:20 AM

Universal's Blu-ray/DVD "combo" discs are indeed double-sided, with the Blu-ray version on one side of the disc and the DVD version on the other.  But these Warner double features aren't combo discs; they don't contain a DVD version at all.  Instead, they contain two entire movies, usually both on a single side of a single disc, but sometimes on two separate discs (such as when they had already been previously released, as Brandon explained).

Capacity isn't really a problem for these double features.  A single 25GB Blu-ray layer can typically hold at least two hours of 1080p video (the exact figure depends on video/audio codecs, compression rate, etc.).  Therefore, a 50GB dual-layered disc could be expected to comfortably fit two two-hour movies, whereas most of the titles released as double features thus far (Miss Congeniality, Analyze This/That, Spies Like Us, Funny Farm) are appreciably less than two hours, and generally don't have a lot of supplemental material.

 

 


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Posted March 04 2010 - 10:54 AM

If these movies are on a single sided disk, then I'll be passing because the video and audio content will be horribly compressed.

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Posted March 04 2010 - 11:06 AM

No, it won't.  Again, movies running about two hours or less actually require a pretty typical rate of compression to fit on a single 25GB Blu-ray layer.

Would you be passing on these movies if they were released individually on single-layered discs?  Would you pass on a single three-and-a-half- or four-hour movie released on a single disc?  What is the maximum running time/compression rate you consider acceptable for a single-layered Blu-ray disc?
 

 


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Posted March 04 2010 - 12:06 PM

^ I think it's the movies reported as being ~2.5 hours each, two of them on a disc, that was the problem. I have a bit of a problem with that, at least theoretically, if it is in fact true, but not at all with a couple of 90-100 minute flicks.





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