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WHV Announcement: Boogie Nights and Magnolia (Blu-ray)


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#1 of 27 Ronald Epstein

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Posted January 12 2010 - 05:28 AM

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Posted January 12 2010 - 05:30 AM

I thought Boogie Nights looked great and I'm hopeful that Magnolia will be on par with it.

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Posted January 12 2010 - 05:35 AM

On the Blu-ray Release Schedule, I've listed "Boogie Nights" for a 01-19-10 release for several weeks, but Amazon still didn't have that release date this morning.  Perhaps later on today, but next Tuesday is coming fast.




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#4 of 27 TravisR

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Posted January 12 2010 - 05:49 AM

^ Maybe it's not listed yet because it's currently a Best Buy exclusive?

#5 of 27 Michael Reuben

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Posted January 12 2010 - 06:29 AM



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I thought Boogie Nights looked great and I'm hopeful that Magnolia will be on par with it.

I just sampled the review copy of Magnolia and thought it looked great. Obviously a full review is going to take some time (and I have another two to finish first).
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#6 of 27 Ronald Epstein

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Posted January 12 2010 - 07:36 AM

As of this post, Amazon is still selling expensive
copies of this BD through other sellers.

Waiting for them to set a price on their own stock
so I can place an order.

Never saw Magnolia.  Seems to be a big buzz
about the film.

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#7 of 27 Michael Reuben

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Posted January 12 2010 - 07:45 AM

Magnolia is very much a "love it" or "hate it" film. It has been since it first appeared. At over 3 hours' running time, it asks a lot from viewers, and a fair number think the result just isn't worth it -- among them Kevin Smith, who famously blasted the film online.

The cast is amazing, though, as is the cinematography by Robert Elswit, who would go on to win the Oscar for There Will Be Blood.


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#8 of 27 Ronald Epstein

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Posted January 12 2010 - 08:26 AM

Sounds like a movie that I don't need to see.


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Posted January 12 2010 - 08:28 AM



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Magnolia is very much a "love it" or "hate it" film. It has been since it first appeared. At over 3 hours' running time, it asks a lot from viewers, and a fair number think the result just isn't worth it -- among them Kevin Smith, who famously blasted the film online.

The cast is amazing, though, as is the cinematography by Robert Elswit, who would go on to win the Oscar for There Will Be Blood.

Yeah, personally I didn't care for it. It's an interesting, ambitious film in many ways but I found it very indulgent, pretentious and, worst of all, false - the Seymour Hoffman character in particular just doesn't ring true.

It looks good, but I find PT Anderson's style too derivative - it's as if he'd decided to make Robert Altman movies shot in the style of Martin Scorsese. The only one that really worked for me was Punch Drunk Love.

I'd definitely suggest a rental first if you haven't seen this one.


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Posted January 12 2010 - 08:54 AM



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On the Blu-ray Release Schedule, I've listed "Boogie Nights" for a 01-19-10 release for several weeks, but Amazon still didn't have that release date this morning.  Perhaps later on today, but next Tuesday is coming fast.


 
FWIW, DVD Empire is listing 2/2/2010.

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Posted January 12 2010 - 08:59 AM


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 Magnolia is very much a "love it" or "hate it" film.

My number 1 film of 1999.  Very much a "love it" relationship for me.  Looking forward to the Blu-ray release.

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Posted January 12 2010 - 09:34 AM



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I just sampled the review copy of Magnolia and thought it looked great. Obviously a full review is going to take some time (and I have another two to finish first).

Great to hear!  I have both of these on pre-order with Amazon.ca, both list a Jan 19th street date. 


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Posted January 12 2010 - 10:25 AM

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Magnolia is very much a "love it" or "hate it" film.


Yeah, I love it but it's definitely not for everyone.

A postscript to the Kevin Smith story is that he ended up running into P.T. Anderson in a doctor's office (or some odd place like that) and he said that PTA couldn't have been a nicer guy.

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Posted January 12 2010 - 11:10 AM

Kevin had a very interesting take on MAGNOLIA.  I remember he felt that it was an "open wound" film-  a kind of very personal 'primal scream' from an artist-  and thought that spending $35-million to make such a film wasn't warranted.  When I first saw the film I disliked it and posted as such on the View Askew website, then Kevin saw it and posted a similar response and all hell broke lose.  We had P.T. Anderson fans coming onto the boards and attacking us for daring to dislike a film that they liked, and the View Askew fans retaliating in kind...  It all got quite ugly, stupid and sad.

The upshot is, on repeat viewings I've grown to really love at least 90% of MAGNOLIA since I saw it that first time.  There are still some things in it that bug me (which is to be expected in any film of this length) but I really love the majority of it and am looking forward to owning it on Blu-ray.

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Posted January 12 2010 - 12:24 PM

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I just sampled the review copy of Magnolia and thought it looked great. Obviously a full review is going to take some time (and I have another two to finish first).
Is Boogie Nights one of the titles you're reviewing? Would like to know what to expect PQ-wise compared to the original DVD. Thanks.


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Posted January 12 2010 - 03:29 PM



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Is Boogie Nights one of the titles you're reviewing? Would like to know what to expect PQ-wise compared to the original DVD. Thanks.
 
No, I don't have that one. I don't even know whether we've received a review copy.

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Posted January 13 2010 - 04:04 PM

I admit, I also partcipated in the Newsaskew.com craziness over the film, and I was a late-commenter (I piled on in the 'you tell 'em Stevedave mode').. primarily because I really hated Magnolia, and wasn't at the boards to comment at all on it I was wanting to talk about Kevin Smith films, and the board at that point was flooded with total BS posts about how terrible Smith was.

The problem I had with Magnolia was that I paid money to see it..   I loved Boogie Nights and found it to be a stunning, creative, well filmed work.    Magnolia came off as dark, difficult to decipher without a decoder ring, and had no characters I gave a damn about.

I think PT has one of the best film "look"  I've seen.  I love everything about that.  But, uh, I was completely NOT sold on this flm.

As to the BD, Boogie Nights is a MUST buy for me.

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Posted January 13 2010 - 04:10 PM

You know, as I read these comments and am reminded of some of the discussions from ten years ago, I'm starting to think that the best thing for "The Film" section of the review might just be a picture of a frog. /img/vbsmilies/htf/biggrin.gif
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Posted January 13 2010 - 04:20 PM


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Is Boogie Nights one of the titles you're reviewing? Would like to know what to expect PQ-wise compared to the original DVD. Thanks.
I mailed it off to Cameron so you should see the reveiw posted in the next few days.  He also got The Invention of Lying and Whiteout about the same time.  I'm not sure what order he will do them in.

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Posted January 18 2010 - 01:53 PM

Generally I will give priority to a critically acclaimed catalog title over poorly received new releases. :)
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