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Struggling with our new Blu-ray. Wondering if maybe our components aren't compatible. We're not good at this.

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#1 of 5 OFFLINE   clc08



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Posted November 09 2009 - 10:25 AM

We have  a Sony Grand Wega KDF-50WE655 that we were trying to hook up to a new HP BD-2000 blue-ray.  We have a Denon  AVR3805 receiver.

What is the best way to hook these up?  Will we get any benefit from the Blu-ray with these other components?

Obviously we are really bad at this or I wouldn't be here....thanks....

#2 of 5 OFFLINE   Jason Charlton

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Posted November 10 2009 - 02:26 AM

Hi Cinda, welcome to the forum!

First off, given the receiver and TV that you have, it is possible for you to realize some of the benefits that Blu-Ray VIDEO has to offer over standard DVD (your TV supports 720p and 1080i, but not the full 1080p of Blu-Ray).  However, I'm sorry to say that the Blu-Ray player that you have will not allow you to realize any of the AUDIO benefits of Blu-Ray over DVD.

For the audio, your receiver does not internally decode the new, lossless audio codecs that Blu-Ray provides, but it DOES have 7.1 analog inputs.  What this means is that if you get a Blu-Ray player with 7.1 analog outputs (usually a feature not found on base models), then you can have the player decode the surround sound into the 7.1 channels, and then use regular RCA-style cables to feed the high-resolution audio to your receiver.  The Blu-Ray that you have does not feature 7.1 analog outputs.

Doing a quick check, Amazon.com currently has a great price on a really good Panasonic player that has the analog outputs.  If it's an option, you may want to consider returning the HP player and picking up the Panasonic.  Doing so will allow you to reap additional benefit from making the switch to Blu-Ray.

Whichever way you go, here's how you'd hook it up:

For the video signal, you have a choice.  You can connect via HDMI directly from the Blu-Ray to the TV, or you can connect via component video cables (three RCA-style connectors) to your receiver, and then out (with a second component cable) to your TV.  If you already have a video source (like HD cable or satellite) then you probably already have it hooked up in a similar fashion, and you won't need to add the cable from the receiver to the TV.

Particularly if you already have a source connected via component cables, I would go the component cable route.  Component cables are capable of carrying a 720p or 1080i signal, which is all your TV supports, anyway, and by having a single video connection running from the receiver to the TV, you only need to switch sources on your receiver when you go from watching cable/satellite to Blu-Ray.  HDMI really provides no benefit beyond component cables in your case.  You can find quality component cables at very reasonable prices at monoprice.com.

For the audio, if you stick with the player you have now, you can use a standard digital optical (Toslink) or digital coaxial cable (RCA-style) to carry the audio signal out from the player to the receiver.  If you get a player with the analog outputs, you can pick up 4 pairs of audio cables from monoprice.

Sorry to get so long-winded, but I wanted to make sure you understood why you would benefit even more with a slightly more feature-rich Blu-Ray player.

Good luck!


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#3 of 5 OFFLINE   Dan Rudolph

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Posted November 29 2009 - 10:50 AM

Doesn't that receiver also take 7.1 PCM? It should be a lot easier to find a player that decodes the new codecs internally and outputs PCM than one with analog outputs. That would also simplify the cabling. You would only need 2 HDMI cables.
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#4 of 5 OFFLINE   Brian McHale

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Posted December 01 2009 - 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Jason Charlton 

However, I'm sorry to say that the Blu-Ray player that you have will not allow you to realize any of the AUDIO benefits of Blu-Ray over DVD.
This is not completely true. While you will only get regular DD or DTS with optical audio out, Blu-ray discs tend to have higher bit-rate audio tracks compared to DVDs. So, you won't be able to take advantage of the lossless audio tracks, but you will still get higher quality audio than DVD.


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Posted December 01 2009 - 07:26 AM

As well, this player does decode Dolby TrueHD. I just checked the manual here: www.qvc.com/el/pdf/BD2000_User_Manual.pdf
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