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Digital copies that come with Blu-Ray actually expire


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#1 of 30 OFFLINE   Mike_G

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Posted October 08 2009 - 12:14 PM

Hi all,
  I bought Risky Business on Blu-Ray and popped in the digital copy DVD that came with it, only to be told that the offer expired. EXPIRED.
  Apparently, the offer expired on Sept. 16 but they still sell the discs, so if you have any digital copies lying around, it would be best to get them taken care of ASAP.
  But this is what I don't understand - why bother expiring a DIGITAL COPY? What does WB lose if the offer expires Sept. 16, 2009 or Sept. 16, 3009? They're not losing money off this. 

#2 of 30 OFFLINE   ManW_TheUncool

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Posted October 08 2009 - 01:56 PM

I imagine they don't want to devote online resources to hosting them indefinitely.  However, yeah, one would think they should host the DCs for longer than merely a year or so, especially if they're gonna tout them as special features and possibly charge a little extra for them.

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#3 of 30 OFFLINE   Mike_G

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Posted October 08 2009 - 02:49 PM

 The movie comes on a disc, all they need to do is host the validation, which doesn't take up a lot of resources.



#4 of 30 OFFLINE   LarryH

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Posted October 08 2009 - 02:53 PM

So is this expiration prominently displayed on the packaging??  If not, this would appear to be a pretty blatant case of false labeling.  


#5 of 30 OFFLINE   ATimson

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Posted October 08 2009 - 03:11 PM

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So is this expiration prominently displayed on the packaging??  If not, this would appear to be a pretty blatant case of false labeling.  
I know that at least on some titles, like Dark City, it is. I was wondering if any company was going to actually pull that. Apparently the answer is "yes".

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#6 of 30 OFFLINE   ManW_TheUncool

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Posted October 08 2009 - 03:23 PM


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I know that at least on some titles, like Dark City, it is. I was wondering if any company was going to actually pull that. Apparently the answer is "yes".
 
I don't remember any of them labeling an expiration date on the outside, but then again, I didn't look carefully for that.  I'm pretty sure if it was labeled, it'd be on some sticker on the plastic shrinkwrap, which would be thrown out as soon as you open the BD.  Well, I suppose it could also be stuck to a slipcover in some cases, but I really don't remember seeing expiration dates for those either.

I've personally only ever noticed/seen the expiration notice in the DC paper insert (w/ the code) inside the case.

Sounds like this could easily become cause for some class action suit against the studios. <br /></span>
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#7 of 30 OFFLINE   ManW_TheUncool

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Posted October 08 2009 - 03:29 PM


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 The movie comes on a disc, all they need to do is host the validation, which doesn't take up a lot of resources.

 
True that at least for most cases near as I can tell.  Some people have reported that some DCs require actual download of the DC content, not just authentication, though I don't know if that's really true.

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Posted October 08 2009 - 04:52 PM

 My Dark City is still wrapped. It says "BONUS DIGITAL COPY" (open here for full restrictions). Of course you then have to open it in the store to read it, which lessens the adhesive. Anyway, inside it says it expires on July 29, 2009.

Lame.

I mean, they go through the trouble of MAKING it, why not just allow people to download it?

I took pics of the label, but I'm too tired to go through the trouble of posting it to flickr.


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Posted October 08 2009 - 05:40 PM

I wish we didn't have to pay for these when buying some Blu-ray titles. I don't use them yet have no option to spend less and get a Blu-ray without a digi-copy.

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#10 of 30 OFFLINE   Cees Alons

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Posted October 08 2009 - 09:22 PM



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I took pics of the label, but I'm too tired to go through the trouble of posting it to flickr.
 

Mike,

On this new platform, you can upload a picture directly when posting.

(And, lame indeed, to have the DC expiring.)


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#11 of 30 OFFLINE   Christian Preischl

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Posted October 08 2009 - 10:32 PM

Virtually all digital copies that I have received with my Blu-rays (I'd say about 30-40 or so) expire approx. 1 year after release. It's always hidden in the fine print. Basically that means that after 1 year you have another worthless coaster lying around. Yup, real environment-friendly. But hey... at least we have eco-friendly packaging now. ;)


#12 of 30 OFFLINE   Sam Favate

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Posted October 08 2009 - 11:30 PM

Yet another reason why "digital copies" are just a gimmick, not to mention a waste of everyone's time. I have never known anyone to use them. If they want to go this route, a better way is Disney's added DVD copy of the film, which lets people use that in a car for kids, or on a TV without a BD, etc.


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Posted October 09 2009 - 01:21 AM

I competely agree with Sam.  Personally, I would get much more use out of a DVD copy than a "digital" copy, in which I have precisely zero interest.

 

 


#14 of 30 OFFLINE   David_B_K

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Posted October 09 2009 - 01:32 AM

I know one guy who uses them. I usually give mine to him. I have no interest in watching movies on a teeny screen.


#15 of 30 OFFLINE   Mike_G

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Posted October 09 2009 - 02:36 AM

I've never tried a digital copy so I don't know how "gimmicky" it is. I can tell you that my Macbook Pro doesn't have a Blu-Ray drive, so I think the word "gimmicky" is off here.

At least until I can watch movies directly on my laptop.

And even then, I like to watch movies while at the gym to pass time. When you've seen a movie 1000x, you're not lessening the experience by watching it on an iPhone.



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Posted October 09 2009 - 06:00 AM


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And even then, I like to watch movies while at the gym to pass time. When you've seen a movie 1000x, you're not lessening the experience by watching it on an iPhone.

 
Hmmm...  After 1000x, I'd think I don't even need to watch it on anything anymore.   Personally, if I don't care to watch it on a big screen, then I don't see why I'd want to watch it on a tiny iPhone screen -- seems like just a waste of time (and battery power). /img/vbsmilies/htf/tongue.gif

I haven't actually used any of the DCs I received either even though I do have an iPod Touch.  I did mean to put a couple of them on our laptop since we didn't already have DVDs of those, but never got around to it.  I'd put some of them on my kids' PSP for him to enjoy, but of course, nearly all DCs don't work on the PSP, which is kinda ironic, especially since I use a PS3 as our BD player. <br /></span>
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Yeah, I too wish more studios would just include the DVD version like Disney does, instead of a DC, if they really want to do something like that.  But oh well...<br />
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Posted October 09 2009 - 06:42 AM

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I've never tried a digital copy so I don't know how "gimmicky" it is. I can tell you that my Macbook Pro doesn't have a Blu-Ray drive, so I think the word "gimmicky" is off here.
 
Digital Copy is distributed on a standard-def DVD. It doesn't require a Blu-ray drive or player.

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Posted October 09 2009 - 06:52 AM

All the more reason we need to be able to rip and resample these things to play on whatever hardware we like, like we can with DVDs. You bought it, you own it, and I don't care what the RIAA says. So now we just need some enterprising Blu-Ray-Jon to come along and let us have it.


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Posted October 09 2009 - 08:03 AM

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All the more reason we need to be able to rip and resample these things to play on whatever hardware we like, like we can with DVDs. You bought it, you own it, and I don't care what the RIAA says. So now we just need some enterprising Blu-Ray-Jon to come along and let us have it.
Unfortunately, Blu-ray was designed so that manufacturers can continually update the security. Many older discs can be ripped already, though.

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Posted October 09 2009 - 03:19 PM

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