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A few thoughts about...Gremlins (Blu-ray)


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#1 of 21 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted September 29 2009 - 02:25 AM

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For those of us that were growing up as teens and
twenty-somethings during the 80's, that period brings
back distinct memories of Flashdance, Top Gun, Star
Trek, Police Squad, John Hughes movies, and perhaps
the most memorable film of them all, Joe Dante's GREMLINS.

I was working as a General Cinema manager back in
1984 when the film came to my theater.  I can clearly
remember the sensation of GREMLINS and how it sold
out shows consistently for the first few weekends. What
was not too surprising was how many people came back
for a second viewing.  

GREMLINS had everything you could want in a Summer
Blockbuster ---  menacing creatures, horror, comedy, great
special effects and Phoebe Cates!  All brought to you through
the imaginative minds of Steven Speilberg and Joe Dante.

To discover this film was actually being released to Blu-ray
came very unexpectedly.  Originally announced solely for
overseas release, mention of a mysterious TARGET ad
began to circulate across the Internet over the past week
advertising exclusive availability. Most of us thought it to be
a misprint.  However, sure enough, this morning TARGET 
was offering an EXCLUSIVE offering of GREMLINS on BD.

I took the opportunity to view certain segments of the Blu-ray
in hopes of offering you an opinion of how I thought the
transfer looked and sounded.  I have seen this film dozens of
times and knew exactly which scenes would be the best to
test drive.

On a whole, GREMLINS looks very good on Blu-ray and
quite representative of how I remember it looking back in
1984.  It appears no major remastering was done here.
There's nothing eye-popping about this transfer. It still
looks like something released from that period without
any kind of degradation.

For instance, the opening scene where Randall Peltzer
is walking through Chinatown in hopes of finding his son
a birthday gift, is filled with muddy red colors.  It's originally
the way I remember that scene looking.  However, as we
cut to the opening title sequence we move from from the
darkness of a city street to the startling daylight shot of a
Ricky Rialto Billboard, you begin to get an idea of just how
much sharper this film looks in high definition.

The print has its share of debris scattered throughout
and film grain is ever evident (as it should be) as some
of the darker indoor scenes take on a slightly muddy feel.
However, as I noted above, this is exactly what I remember
the transfer to be and I don't expect there to be any
complaints from home viewers except that this BD is
probably not a major improvement over the original DVD.  

What is most notable about this transfer is the crisp
audio that does justice to Jerry Goldsmith's score with
distinct separation across the front speakers.  This has
always been one of my favorite soundtracks and it's so
good to hear it as clearly vibrant as it did on my vinyl
recording. Just as notable here is the use of surrounds.  
Inside the china shop you can hear the jingling of wind
chimes coming from different directions as the film's point
of perspective changes.  Switch over to Scene 12 to find
yourself immediately immersed into the sounds of gremlins
scattering across the rear and front speakers while a
nervous Mother climbs the stairs with a knife ready to
attack whatever she finds.

Extras on this disc include 2 commentaries, a making
of featurette, photo/storyboard gallery (with a few cute
pictures of Phoebe Cates), deleted scenes that I imagine
are the same ported over from the DVD release, two
versions of the film's theatrical trailer along with one for
GREMLINS 2: THE NEW BATCH.

I thought I might share with all of you two photos I
took while on the Warner lot earlier this year that will
immediately take you back to the opening scene of 
Gremlins.



This is the very street used for ChinaTown.  I imagine that
it was covered with a tarp to simulate nighttime and that
neon signs and decorations were added for ambience.  
However, these are the store fronts that Randall Peltzer
walks by in the first few moments of the film.



This is the curio shop where Randall Peltzer finds that special 
Christmas gift for his son.  Notice the entrance to the stairs that
lead down to the shop.



#2 of 21 OFFLINE   willh51

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Posted September 29 2009 - 02:45 AM

That's definitely good to hear, thanks for getting a review up so quickly.  I was considering dropping by Target after class but was on the fence because of Warner's recent hit-and-miss track record.  Ultimately, if the movie looks as intended, without digital tinkering, then I am usually satisfied.




#3 of 21 OFFLINE   Xenia Stathakopoulou

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Posted September 29 2009 - 03:42 AM

So is the transfer a big enough upgrade from the special edition dvd from 2002 to buy, or should I just stick with watching the dvd upscaled on my blu ray player?? If its a big diffrence, Ill rebuy it.
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#4 of 21 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted September 29 2009 - 03:46 AM

Tony,

I will wait for others to chime in to answer that question.  I
didn't have time to compare the DVD and BD transfers but
I am going to guess that this isn't a major upgrade from the
standard DVD release.  There's nothing extraordinary about
this BD transfer other than the fact you do notice the subtle
improvements in image quality due to being on high definition. 
Based on the amount of debris in the print I am guessing this
is the same transfer.   Even the extras look to be the exact
same as the DVD.

As I said, nothing special here over what the original DVD
probably looked like.

 

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#5 of 21 OFFLINE   BillyFeldman

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Posted September 29 2009 - 04:04 AM

 So, they've recreated the dirt and debris from the original theatrical showings?  I don't recall any dirt and debris when I saw the film on its opening day, so I don't think it's exactly as it looked back then. 

#6 of 21 OFFLINE   Xenia Stathakopoulou

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Posted September 29 2009 - 07:57 AM

Ron ,you said, subtle improvements do to it being in high definition . That sounds good enough to me!Anyone know, if the upcoming canadian blu of gremlins will be region locked ??? Warners are usually region free, but with Canada, you never know.
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#7 of 21 OFFLINE   Xenia Stathakopoulou

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Posted September 29 2009 - 07:57 AM

Ron ,you said, subtle improvements do to it being in high definition . That sounds good enough to me!Anyone know, if the upcoming canadian blu of gremlins will be region locked ??? Warners are usually region free, but with Canada, you never know.
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#8 of 21 OFFLINE   Xenia Stathakopoulou

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Posted September 29 2009 - 07:58 AM

Oops, double post.
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#9 of 21 OFFLINE   Vincent_P

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Posted September 29 2009 - 12:59 PM

Didn't I read somewhere not too long ago that Joe Dante wasn't too happy with the exising HD transfer of GREMLINS so it was being redone for eventual Blu-ray release?  I can't imagine this Target exclusive being this new transfer.

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#10 of 21 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted September 29 2009 - 01:08 PM

Vincent, been reading the same stories.

This can't be a new transfer.  It just doesn't look like
something that a lot of effort was put into.  I have
been reading that a few people are unhappy with the
grain, but far better to have it there than see Warner
doing any DNR.

For me, the transfer looks good enough.  Certainly
better color saturation and more detail brought out
by the high definition format. However, some may opt
to keep their existing DVD copy which would not be
a mistake given the fact that it appears this isn't
a new transfer nor are there any extra added features.


 

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Posted September 29 2009 - 01:18 PM



Originally Posted by BillyFeldman [url=/forum/thread/293451/a-few-thoughts-about-gremlins-blu-ray#post_3611475]

Well if you saw it on a second run screen there might have been plenty of that including dirt and scratches
right up there on the movie screen in the theater..

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#12 of 21 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted September 29 2009 - 01:32 PM

Let me clarify because I don't know if you guys are pulling
my leg or not.

I watched that film over and over when I managed a movie
theater.  Knew that movie inside and out.  Have seen it on
VHS, LASERDISC and DVD ever since.  I know how this
film is supposed to look.  It was never (for lack of a better
word) a "pretty" looking film.  It always had the same muddy
look that most of the indoor scenes exhibit.  The film had a
grainy look to it so the amount of grain present in this transfer
is not surprising.  Glad Warner didn't even dare to remove it. 

The debris is another matter. That's not included in my 
personal memories of the film.  However the fact that it is
obvious in this transfer tells me that it wasn't painstakingly
remastered.  Look at many of the early WB DVD transfers
(as well as those from other studios) and you will see lots
of debris in their prints. The early years of DVD were plagued
with studios throwing any transfer they could on a disc and
selling it to the consumer.  Of course, these days, the studios
are taking more care into cleaning these prints up.


 

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Posted September 29 2009 - 01:56 PM

I think billy was pulling your leg, I was just goofing on Billy.

The original showings probably didn't have any dirt, but there was surely print damage, scratches and other things on some of the reels eventually, somewhere in movie land were it was playing.

I watched a good portion of the movies I saw as a kid in the late 70's early 80's on screens that weren't so nice.
So I saw plenty of stuff on many movies that was actually just on the white screen of the theater.

added to the charm.

I still remember when Me and my buddy stood in line on a friday night waiting to buy a ticket to get in and see gremlins.
Lot's of good memories from that particular theater, tore it down last year.
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Posted October 01 2009 - 06:11 AM

Ugh. Not a single Target anywhere near me. I hate this exclusivity crap!

I saw this film quite a number of times as a teen. One of my favorites. Of course, having Phoebe Cates in it doesn't hurt.


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Posted October 01 2009 - 11:14 PM

Amazon canada is getting this on october 13. A full week before the european countries .Does anyone know if Warner in Canada, release their blu ray titles region free, like the USA ??????? I know its only a week diffrence , but I want this title as soon as possible.
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Posted October 02 2009 - 01:35 AM

Do you live in the U.S., Tony?  I don't know whether Warner's Canadian releases are region-free, but Canada and the U.S. are in the same Blu-ray region, so it shouldn't make a difference to U.S. viewers.

 

 


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Posted October 02 2009 - 01:54 AM

I  live in Greece, but I have bought blu ray warner discs from amazon USA, and so far they work. I dont know about Warner in Canada, thats why im asking.
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Posted October 02 2009 - 02:10 AM



Originally Posted by Todd H 

Ugh. Not a single Target anywhere near me. I hate this exclusivity crap!
 

Even if there were there's no guarantee it'll be in stock.  I went out twice this week to two different locations and found it out of stock at both.  There are other locations I could try but I value my time too much to trek all over my metropolitan area and since it's not even available on Targets website I'm done with it.

So another brilliant marketing move from Warner, congrats on loosing an easy sale.


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Posted October 02 2009 - 01:05 PM

Hmmm....  In that case, I think I may just wait for a proper BD w/ new transfer -- and maybe I'll see about finally picking put the DVD at some $3 bargain bin instead (and/or simply renting it again this time on BD at some point).  I've waited long enough for a good, problem-free transfer of it -- and actually passed on the DVD a long while back -- so I guess I can wait some more to see a good solid effort on BD (to own) some day instead, especially since the Target exclusive price ain't exactly enticing (even if I have no trouble finding a copy in stock).

Bummers though as I've wanted to own a quality version of this old favorite for a long time now -- well, at least I do finally own a quality-if-moderately-flawed copy of Poltergeist also from that era (on BD) now.

Thanks for the heads-up review and "few thoughts" on this one, Ron...

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Posted October 19 2009 - 06:34 PM

hi all, i'm Joe from hong kong. could you tell me that is there any chinese subtitle for the Gremlins Blu-ray ? thanks.




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