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#41 of 74 Sam Posten

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Posted November 05 2011 - 01:30 PM

Guess what im doing tomorrow? :(

Sigh, the jabronis at the @apple store sold me the $400 @lacietech thunderbolt drive without telling me the cable's not included. #fail


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#42 of 74 mattCR

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Posted November 05 2011 - 01:47 PM

Didn't I warn about that some time ago?!?!?  On, you know, Page 1 of this thread when I quoted the costs?




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#43 of 74 Sam Posten

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Posted November 06 2011 - 01:23 AM

We were talking about raids then, not consumer drives...

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#44 of 74 Sam Posten

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Posted November 06 2011 - 09:53 AM

So I drove an hour north, bought the goddamn $50 cable, drove home, burned my windows ISO and started bootcamp. Huh, the drive doesn't show as a valid target for bootcamp. Let's research this a bit:

7. If I have more than one hard drive, can I install Microsoft Windows on any drive? You can use Boot Camp to install Windows on any internal hard drive, but not on an external hard drive.

http://static.hometh...um.com/imgrepo/

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#45 of 74 Sam Posten

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Posted November 08 2011 - 12:49 AM

Engadget reviews the SSD version ($900) and find that it's expensive and fast, duh. http://www.engadget....olt-ssd-review/ No mention of it being unsuitable as a bootcamp drive.

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Posted November 08 2011 - 02:35 AM

For $900 you could buy a new Windows PC and KVM swtich, and probably have money left over for pizza. :)



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Posted November 08 2011 - 03:33 AM

While Sam won't want to think of it this way:


2 120GB Intel SSDs = $214 my price local; so $428.   I can get a Raid-0/Raid-1 USB3.0 Enclosure for $132... and it includes the cable.  So, $560.  Counting the cable here, you're at almost 1k.. the difference could basically buy me a mini-PC with a USB3.0 port...


I have no idea who the target audience is for a 240GB RAID external that's 1K. 

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Posted November 08 2011 - 06:14 AM

People with more money than sense. Another review: http://www.anandtech...40gb-ssd-review

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Posted November 08 2011 - 02:28 PM

Given the recent price surge in hard disk drives, $1K may be a bargain a month from now...

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Posted December 27 2011 - 02:01 AM

Too late or just in time? Thunderbolt PCs in April 2012: http://www.macrumors...-in-april-2012/

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Posted December 28 2011 - 07:00 AM

No doubt will help bring prices down.

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Posted December 29 2011 - 03:28 AM

Lower pricing yes, but we need more consumer devices too. And Bootcamp needs to support external drives.

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Posted January 09 2012 - 12:46 AM

The flood starts with a single raindrop: http://www.theverge....nnest-ultrabook

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Posted January 09 2012 - 07:53 AM

No USB 3 =( http://www.engadget....t-express-dock/ Bigger RAID from LaCie: http://www.engadget....torage-options/

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Posted January 09 2012 - 08:53 AM

With USB3 external drives on the shelves of BestBuy (bought one yesterday), and nothing Thunderbolt in sight (or affordable)...why is there no USB3 on the Mac? I'd love to speed up my backups 10x, but that seems impractical even with a new Mac.



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Posted January 09 2012 - 03:14 PM

I'd never pay $300 for something from Belkin, much less a product that is already badly out of date before it even goes on sale.

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Posted January 09 2012 - 08:38 PM

From what I have read, the general consensus on USB 3 on Apple's gear is that when the current generation of hardware was designed/released, Intel's chipsets didn't offer USB 3 support and apparently Apple didn't feel the need to add it via a 3rd party solution.


We will see what happens when the next batch of hardware gets updated.


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Posted January 11 2012 - 10:25 AM

Ars did a story on ThunderBolt news from CES.

http://arstechnica.c...orce-at-ces.ars


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Posted January 11 2012 - 10:59 AM

Yeah this part definitely makes sense as to the stall:



We also heard that there are potential intellectual property issues associated with licensing Thunderbolt that has some vendors leery about Thunderbolt. We weren't able to learn what the specific issues are, but we heard similar complaints from another source last year shortly after Thunderbolt was unveiled by Apple and Intel. Hopefully those issues can be resolved; the vendors we spoke to are anxious to get their product ideas in the pipeline as they expect Thunderbolt adoption to grow significantly in the coming year.


Some good devices shown.. but still, it's a trickle.   Thunderbolt may be a superior product, but it's cost per consumer is still not enough to make it a breakthrough product.


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Posted January 11 2012 - 12:28 PM

The ONLY way I will pay a price premium for an SSD thunderbolt drive is if Apple relents and lets you put Bootcamp on external drives which is currently not permitted by OSX. This is a terrible and dumb decision on Apple's part, and I hope they fix this soon.

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