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#1 of 140 younger1968

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Posted September 13 2009 - 12:41 AM

I just order the complete series for Space 1999. I like that show growing up and was waiting for it to come down in price. I cant wait to start watching it when it arrives this week.

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Posted February 21 2010 - 02:35 PM

i have watch several episodes of the series. I like space 1999 and then again i am space tv show junkie. I like any sci-fi shows.



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Posted February 21 2010 - 03:38 PM

Good Choice! /img/vbsmilies/htf/thumbsup.gif I Picked up this series and the Outstanding WWII Documentary Series The World at War for 30 Bucks each during a Dee Dee's Sale a couple of years ago! /img/vbsmilies/htf/biggrin.gif

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Posted February 22 2010 - 05:22 AM



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i have watch several episodes of the series. I like space 1999 and then again i am space tv show junkie. I like any sci-fi shows.

Space 1999 is awesome.  I picked up the complete series(the old huge boxset) years ago, along with Planet of the Apes tv series.  2 of the best purchases I have made on dvd.

Now if we can get the Logan's Run tv show on dvd, I'll be all set!


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Posted February 22 2010 - 05:35 AM

I still enjoy watching I have the original release, then they repackaged it into slim cases which is the set you bought. The transfers are ok but not the newly remastered ones that are overseas now. Those are supposed to look stunning. I enjoy both seasons with a preference to the first season, but the 2nd season is fun in a more goofey way.
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Posted February 22 2010 - 05:37 AM

Logan's is available on Itunes I've Downloaded several episodes. Thing holding it up is probably MGM Does not want to spend the money to remaster it, the episodes on Itunes are not remastered and look pretty bad, still I would take those on disk over nothing at all.

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Space 1999 is awesome.  I picked up the complete series(the old huge boxset) years ago, along with Planet of the Apes tv series.  2 of the best purchases I have made on dvd.

Now if we can get the Logan's Run tv show on dvd, I'll be all set!

 


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Posted October 01 2010 - 03:28 AM

Not being a blu owner yet, the news earlier this year that this was coming out only on blu just about devastated me. It's okay, though, I'm cool with it now.


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I think I like the region 2 cover art (below) better.


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Posted October 01 2010 - 05:29 AM

It will be interesting to see how they are presented. As it seems very likely that the releases will be produced by Network here in the UK (as was done with The Prisoner) then they won't be mercilessly contorted into widescreen but will be pillarboxed.


Space: 1999 had - in my view - some of the highest visual production values for a TV show ever. The effects shots manage to look stunning even to this day and to my eye often look superior to the CGI fests that are now the norm, with starships that look "hard and gritty" rather than "exotic and weird cos they can be with huge fleets cos we can cut and paste". The Eagle Transporter looks gorgeous.


It is one of my favourite shows of all time. At least the first season is - there's an indefinable, unique "feel" to the whole thing, a sort of "otherworldliness" - in a way it manages to capture the lonliness that accompanies the latter half of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It really doesn't matter that the stories have dodgy science (although, in the end, it's every bit as plausible as Star Trek's endless round of techno-gobble-de-gook that thinly disguised equally dodgey science).


The less said about the horrible second season the better though. The whole thing was ripped to shreds for "popular consumption" meaning that "science fiction=monsters+romance+token alien crewmember). Everything manages to look way cheaper, tacky, with horrib rubber monster suits worthy of Lost In Space, naff sets, awful stories. Even the effects suffer.



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Posted October 01 2010 - 05:53 AM



Originally Posted by Nebiroth 

It will be interesting to see how they are presented. As it seems very likely that the releases will be produced by Network here in the UK (as was done with The Prisoner) then they won't be mercilessly contorted into widescreen but will be pillarboxed.


Space: 1999 had - in my view - some of the highest visual production values for a TV show ever. The effects shots manage to look stunning even to this day and to my eye often look superior to the CGI fests that are now the norm, with starships that look "hard and gritty" rather than "exotic and weird cos they can be with huge fleets cos we can cut and paste". The Eagle Transporter looks gorgeous.


It is one of my favourite shows of all time. At least the first season is - there's an indefinable, unique "feel" to the whole thing, a sort of "otherworldliness" - in a way it manages to capture the lonliness that accompanies the latter half of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It really doesn't matter that the stories have dodgy science (although, in the end, it's every bit as plausible as Star Trek's endless round of techno-gobble-de-gook that thinly disguised equally dodgey science).


The less said about the horrible second season the better though. The whole thing was ripped to shreds for "popular consumption" meaning that "science fiction=monsters+romance+token alien crewmember). Everything manages to look way cheaper, tacky, with horrib rubber monster suits worthy of Lost In Space, naff sets, awful stories. Even the effects suffer.


The cast in the first season was very good. I remember the show airing in Canada on saturday afternoons. I bought the set a few years ago and watch several episode, but one of my favourites is when commander Koenig goes to planet that is like a prison.


The shots of the planets and the ships were very good, but, not restored to extent that star trek did their images. I much prefer star trek's re-mastered version, because the images are more crisp. However, that being said the market for star trek can borne the cost and the sets can be sold. I am not sure other shows have the same cult following.







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Posted October 01 2010 - 06:10 AM

Yes, the first season is the best. The only episodes I like in the second season is the two-parter, THE BRINGERS OF WONDER. Favorite first season episodes: FORCE OF LIFE, THE TROUBLED SPIRIT, A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH, SPACE BRAIN, and the best episode ever to feature a hell of a monster, DRAGON'S DOMAIN!


Love all the episodes, actually, but those above stand out like nobody's business.



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Posted October 01 2010 - 06:16 AM



Originally Posted by younger1968 




The cast in the first season was very good. I remember the show airing in Canada on saturday afternoons. I bought the set a few years ago and watch several episode, but one of my favourites is when commander Koenig goes to planet that is like a prison.


The shots of the planets and the ships were very good, but, not restored to extent that star trek did their images. I much prefer star trek's re-mastered version, because the images are more crisp. However, that being said the market for star trek can borne the cost and the sets can be sold. I am not sure other shows have the same cult following.






The episode you mention is Devil's Planet and is from the second season.


Star Trek didn't restore it's effects shots - it re-created them via CGI. Those are not the originals at all - they look that good because they were newly created in high definition specifically for releasing Star Trek to high-def broadcast and disc.


The non-effects parts are still the original, which because it was made on actual film, was suitable for hi-def.


Similarly, Space:1999 was made on film, so it will look every bit as good.


They won't be re-engineering the effects with 2010 CGI though. But, they don't need to. Space:1999's effects were vastly superior to Star Trek's - the latter's (especially of spacecraft) looked extremely dated (and didn;t look all that good even by the time the show was ten years old) because of the techniques used to do them. They were good for their time of course.



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Posted October 02 2010 - 04:17 AM



Originally Posted by Nebiroth 




The episode you mention is Devil's Planet and is from the second season.


Star Trek didn't restore it's effects shots - it re-created them via CGI. Those are not the originals at all - they look that good because they were newly created in high definition specifically for releasing Star Trek to high-def broadcast and disc.


The non-effects parts are still the original, which because it was made on actual film, was suitable for hi-def.


Similarly, Space:1999 was made on film, so it will look every bit as good.


They won't be re-engineering the effects with 2010 CGI though. But, they don't need to. Space:1999's effects were vastly superior to Star Trek's - the latter's (especially of spacecraft) looked extremely dated (and didn;t look all that good even by the time the show was ten years old) because of the techniques used to do them. They were good for their time of course.


Thanks for the posting!


I do like the images, but, i just like how they did star trek. They did things like the phaser, the interior looks of ship. My understanding that Star trek and they wen through frame by frame and clean them up.


I like both shows in either case, because i am a sci-fi/adventure fan. So, i am glad that i have these shows in my dvd collection.




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Posted October 02 2010 - 05:35 AM



Originally Posted by younger1968 




Thanks for the posting!


I do like the images, but, i just like how they did star trek. They did things like the phaser, the interior looks of ship. My understanding that Star trek and they wen through frame by frame and clean them up.


I like both shows in either case, because i am a sci-fi/adventure fan. So, i am glad that i have these shows in my dvd collection.



Indeed they did. Although, alongside praising the restoration work that was done on the latest releases, we also should question as to why the previous releases were so poor. The past DVD releases showed a shocking amount of dirt and film damage - and not just on the effects shots (which are a special case due to the techniques used to make them) but all over the place.


With a sure-fire moneyspinner like the Star Trek franchise, it's not as if there wasn't the budget. The cynic in me says that they knew the releases would sell no matter what, but that they were eventually forced to spend money in order to be able to sell the show for HD broadcast and disc.


The new release of Space:1999 should look as good. The Special Edition standard def DVD of the show from Network looked very good.



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Posted October 03 2010 - 02:04 PM

 I watched Dragon's Layer last night and it was a great episode. I have watched several of the episodes. Nothing beats a good sci-fi show.



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Posted October 03 2010 - 02:15 PM

Dragon's Domain? Yeah, I would have to say my ut-most favorite. When I saw it as a kid, it creeped me out. Still does, a little, when ever I watch it. I think it was how the thing killed. It sucked you into it's mouth, consumed you, or did whatever it did, and then spit your remains back out. And the design of the creature is extremely Lovecraftian. You still never saw the entire thing, too. A very bizarre and cool design.



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Posted October 03 2010 - 08:31 PM

Yeah that's a great episode, the graveyard of spaceships looks fantastic and so does the Probeship (with it's Eagle type command module).


My other fav episodes are


Breakaway (a stunning opener episode)


War Games (fantastic effects and the use of the beautiful Mark IX Hawk fighters)


Black Sun


Collision Course


The Last Enemy


Force of Life


Voyager's Return


End of Eternity (the idea of an immortal sadist is great)



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Posted October 04 2010 - 08:55 AM

Richard, if you are a cynic, sure, you'd think CBS made the effort to remaster Star Trek TOS for more profit making. While it could indeed have been the case, back in 2006, the people responsible for the idea of the remastering project said the point of it was to preserve the series in HD and to make it the best it can be. Once the film elements were up to standard, they felt the original optical effects did not live up to the beauty of the live action. So they called in a few Star Trek experts who had worked on past productions to see if they'd work on producing the remastered CGI effects. At first they thought that was a crazy idea. How can you alter a classic like Star Trek. But they saw the potential there for a new version.


But to the point, I was at a Star Trek 40th Anniversary convention in 2006 and they provided clips and we were amongst the very first to see it. They said the intent was to celebrate the 40th Anniversary and to preserve the series for the 40th, and as part of that, to begin new syndicated broadcasts that provide a HD version for stations looking for HD material. There was no mention of selling them on DVD or high definition formats at that time. They said they had no plans to sell it. It wasn't till later that they came out. And yes, they probably saw that there was a demand for it after they started airing. (The irony is that no one at the time was prepared, at least my local station, to accept a HD file the way CBS was going to send it out to stations. So here in my TV market, which is a huge one in the SF Bay Area, we got it in standard def! I think the case was the same for Los Angeles too?)


But back on Space: 1999. I think I prefer the Region 2 cover art for the blu ray set! It's much more iconic of the series.



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Posted October 04 2010 - 09:16 AM

Yeah, Richard, END OF ETERNITY is another excellent one! That was another episode that mde you "think." Love how they got rid of him; Koenig essentially "kicked his ass off the base." I don't see any other way you could have dealt with him, too. The dude definitely had a head full of bad wiring. The "model airplane bit" still gives me pause when I see it.



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Posted October 04 2010 - 09:20 AM

I look forward to revisiting those episodes you guys are discussing. I tended to like other 1999 episodes and those didn't resonate with me as well. So I have not watched 1999 in a while in anticipating the BD release.



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Posted October 05 2010 - 04:27 AM



Originally Posted by Nelson Au 
While it could indeed have been the case, back in 2006, the people responsible for the idea of the remastering project said the point of it was to preserve the series in HD and to make it the best it can be.  


This is what is needed for a good many shows. As time goes on and audiences get more used to seeing images in high def, it is going to be a necessity for programs to update their images. A show like Star Trek TOS will survive, and Paramount CBS did a great job of transferring it to HD. Star Trek TNG is badly in need of such an update if future generations are going to take note of it. (Rumor is CBS is working on it.) So, upgrading S:99 is a good sign for that show's longevity.






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