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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   Ken_McAlinden

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Posted August 31 2009 - 04:42 AM

The Our Gang Collection (Warner Archives)

The Our Gang Collection

 

Directed By: Gordon Douglas, George Sidney, Edward L. Cahn, Bud Murray, Herbert Glazer, Sam Baerwitz, Cy Endfield


Starring: George "Spanky" McFarland, Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer, Darla Hood, Billie "Buckwheat" Thomas, Eugene "Porky" Lee, Tommy "Butch" Bond, Mickey Gubitosi (aka "Robert Blake"), and Billy "Froggy" Laughlin


Studio: Warner Archive
 
Year: 2009
 
Rated: Not Rated
 
Film Length: 572 minutes
 
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
 
Subtitles: None
 
Release Date: September 1, 2009

Late last year, fans of the Our Gang series of shorts were treated to a box set with a complete and (mostly The Films ***½

The conventional wisdom says that when Hal Roach handed over the production keys of his Our Gang series to MGM in 1938, the series lost its way, got progressively more forced and unfunny, and died on the vine in less than six years.  While there is a lot of truth to this party line, there were also a number of very entertaining shorts produced by MGM, especially in the first couple of years.  There was also some ebb and flow to the quality of the shorts in the series rather than a steady decline, but by the last few years of its run, things did get pretty dull.

After the first two theatrical shorts were directed by Roach-era holdover, Gordon Douglas, George Sidney directed most of the shorts for the first year at MGM.  Edward L. Cahn picked up the baton in mid-1939 and Herbert Glazer directed most shorts produced after mid-1942.  Sidney's shorts tend to be the best of the three primary MGM directors, although as is the case for all three, the shorts he directed near the end of his run are not as good as his earlier ones.  Compared to the Roach shorts, the MGM one-reelers are much more heavily plotted and the young actors were apparently required to adhere closer to the scripts, resulting in some awkward line readings.  This is not initially a fatal flaw, but combined with growing tendencies by MGM to insert "moral lessons" in the scripts and stick with their most popular child stars for too long (Alfalfa and Spanky were in their early teens when they left) the charm of the series was eventually diluted.

Fans of Our Gang's Roach-era heyday will sometimes direct a lot of vitriol towards the children who were added to the cast through the MGM years, but I think that most of the problems can be firmly pinned on the writing.  Mickey Gubitosi may strike a viewer as strident and annoying in a film like Baby Blues, but any seven year old kid given the specific dialog written for his character (let alone the amount of dialog written for his character) in his first scene crying for attention while his mother deals with pregnancy issues, is going to come across as selfish, petulant, and annoying.  When characters like Alfalfa and Darla were replaced by Froggy (a one-joke character who did little but mess-up aphorisms in a bizarre Popeye-ish voice) and Janet (a polished musical performer who did not quite fit in with the amateurish charm that defined the series at its best), it was difficult to say whether it was the performers themselves or the rigid scripts that were turning the characters one-dimensional, polishing all of the rough edges, and robbing the series of its charm.

The shorts are presented chronologically on the discs as listed below.  The first short of each calender year is indicated via parentheses as well as bits of casting trivia.


  1. Joy Scouts (first appearance of "Mickey")
  2. Dog Daze (Scotty Beckett's final appearance - as "Wilbur")
  3. Auto Antics (Final appearance of "Porky")
  4. Captain Spanky's Showboat
  5. Dad for a Day (Bit part for Arthur Q. Bryan  - the future voice of Elmer Fudd)
  6. Time out for Lessons (Final appearance of "Woim")
  7. Alfalfa's Double (1940)
  8. The Big Premiere
  9. All About Hash (First appearance of Janet Burston - although her character was not named "Janet" and she would not be a series regular for another two years)
  10. The New Pupil (First appearance of "Froggy" - although he is called "Harold")
  11. Bubbling Troubles (Final appearance of "Butch")

Disc Three
  1. Good Bad Boys
  2. Waldo's Last Stand (Appropriately titled final appearance of "Waldo")
  3. Goin' Fishin'
  4. Kiddie Kure (Final appearance of "Alfalfa")
  5. Fightin' Fools (1941) (Final appearance of "Leonard" aka "Percy")
  6. Baby Blues
  7. Ye Olde Minstrels
  8. 1-2-3 Go!
  9. Robot Wrecks
  10. Helping Hands
  11. Come Back, Miss Pipps

Disc Four
  1. Wedding Worries (Final appearance of "Darla")
  2. Melodies Old and New (1942) ("Janet" becomes a series regular)
  3. Going to Press
  4. Don't Lie
  5. Surprised Parties
  6. Doin' Their Bit
  7. Rover's Big Chance
  8. Mighty Lak a Goat
  9. Unexpected Riches (Final appearance of "Spanky")
  10. Benjamin Franklin, Jr. (1943) (First appearance of "Dickie" and "Happy")
  11. Family Troubles

Disc Five
  1. Calling All Kids
  2. Farm Hands
  3. Election Daze
  4. Little Miss Pinkerton
  5. Three Smart Guys
  6. Radio Bugs (1944)
  7. Dancing Romeo
  8. Tale of a Dog


The Video ***

All of the shorts are presented in 4:3 black and white video appropriate for their original theatrical presentations.  The transfers are solid, although they are clearly derived from sources a few generations removed from the original negatives.  A few of the slightly rougher looking shorts may be derived from prints, but everything appears to at least be sourced from 35mm elements.  Densities look very consistent although contrast and grain levels will sometimes vary with the source element from title to title.   Light element damage including both positive and negative speckling is noticeable but never severe or distracting.  The video transfers all appear to have been done recently (within at least the last ten years) with no signs of combing or composite video artifacts.  Altogether, the presentation exceeded my modest expectations.

The Audio **½


The English Dolby Digital 2.0 mono audio has substantial background hiss, but has otherwise very good fidelity without noise reduction artifacts.  The fidelity does improve as the series progresses, but since the shorts are arranged chronologically, there is never a severe change in audio quality from one title to the next.  There are occasionally noticeable changes in average volume level from short to short that can be jarring when watching via the "Play All" option.  No subtitle options or alternate language tracks are present.

 

The Extras ½


The discs have no extras.
  

Packaging


The five DVDs come packaged in a "fatboy" case with two hinged trays, one containing two discs on opposite facing sides of the tray and one containing a single disc.  The first and fifth discs are in the inner parts of the case.  Menus are straightforward with the only options being "Play All", and "Theatrical Shorts".  The menu for selecting shorts uses the title card as the graphic representing each short.  Kudos to Warner for actually calling them theatrical shorts rather than "episodes".
 

Summary ***


Warner Archive's The Our Gang Collection gives Our Gang/Little Rascal completists exactly what they want and nothing more.  All of the post Hal Roach MGM one-reel theatrical shorts in one box set of five burned to order DVD-Rs.  Transfers are solid although clearly derived from sources a few generations removed from the original negatives.  This results in some higher than ideal contrast with occasional light positive and negative "speckling".  Dolby Digital 2.0 mono audio has substantial background hiss, but has otherwise very good fidelity without noise reduction artifacts.  Hardcore fans will be pleased to own the complete set, and casual fans will likely enjoy the first two discs in the set, although as the series progresses through the 1940s, they seem to be running our of creative and comedic gas.

Regards,
Ken McAlinden
Livonia, MI USA

#2 of 16 ONLINE   Mike Frezon

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Posted August 31 2009 - 05:19 AM

"Unanthologized?!?"      

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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Posted August 31 2009 - 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mike Frezon [url=/forum/thread/292269/htf-dvd-review-the-our-gang-collection-warner-archives#post_3601186]

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Posted August 31 2009 - 05:30 AM

Already in the plans! 

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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#5 of 16 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted August 31 2009 - 05:37 AM

I also received an advance copy of this title.

I agree with Ken that the transfers exceeded my overall
expectations after seeing some of the other titles that
have come out of the Warner Archive.

Our Gang fans (like myself) will be pleasantly pleased
with what Warner has done here.

Between the Hal Roach set recently released by Genius
Entertainment, and now this Warner effort, I am a very
happy collector overall.

Now to get the silents.... 

 

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#6 of 16 OFFLINE   Ed Moroughan

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Posted August 31 2009 - 11:53 AM

Thanks for the review Ken. I might have to stick my toe in the Warner Archive finally.

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Posted August 31 2009 - 01:13 PM

This looks like the best release yet in the Archive. Things are looking up.


#8 of 16 OFFLINE   Joe Karlosi

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Posted August 31 2009 - 11:12 PM

Hmm.
 
I'm a big fan of the Hal Roach OUR GANG period, but I've never enjoyed these later MGM shorts much. I was thinking of passing this up, but now that I see it here with my own eyes, I may take a chance. Although the handful of films I've seen from this period are pretty bad, it's true I haven't seen all of them. Maybe there are a few nuggets to be discovered.   

By the way - what's the price on this?

#9 of 16 OFFLINE   Randy Korstick

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Posted September 01 2009 - 09:26 AM

Joe the price is currently $34.95 which is not bad at all.
More than likely these are the same prints released for the laserdisc box released 11 or 12 years back. I think I'll have to dust that off and view a few and then decide if its worth selling that off and upgrading to this or not.
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Posted September 02 2009 - 03:38 AM

Not seeing  updates on the silents : http://www.laughsmith.com/

Not sure how much I'd like these MGM shorts, but at that price, it's gonna be hard for me to not get it.
I've been holding off a bit on buying DVDs, but this is tempting.


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Posted September 02 2009 - 08:54 AM

I have been very skeptical of the Warner Archives due the the dvd-r issue.  I have skimmed over a lot of that thread and since they seem to be a lot better quality than home burned dvd's I am very tempted to get this release.

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Posted September 02 2009 - 09:11 AM

One thing I was wondering is, wouldn't this particular release be a candidate for "official" Warner release on a regular DVD set? It's one thing to release obscurities that aren't as likely to sell much, but I think the name OUR GANG (or THE LITTLE RASCALS) would ensure a good amount of sales. I think this is what some fans wrere concerned about regarding The Warner Archive. 

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Posted September 02 2009 - 03:39 PM

But are the OUR GANG shorts UNCUT - There are several WWII era shorts that have a heavy "Kill Japs" and "Kill Nazi" flavor and even dialog in them!.

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Posted September 03 2009 - 01:36 AM



Originally Posted by DeWilson 

But are the OUR GANG shorts UNCUT - There are several WWII era shorts that have a heavy "Kill Japs" and "Kill Nazi" flavor and even dialog in them!.

The e-mail I received from Warners announcing the Our Gang release carried this disclaimer:

The Our Gang Collection is intended for the Adult Collector and is not suitable for children.

That kind of surprised me, but perhaps it was due to these sentiments that require a historic context many kids lack.




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Posted September 03 2009 - 02:02 AM

The blackface segment (inclusive of a gag where Buckwheat is shown in "whiteface") is left intact in "Ye Olde Minstrels". If they were going to censor stuff, that would normally be one of the first things to go.

Also, the stage-comic routine between Froggy and Spanky  In Doin' Their Bit where they talk about "Jap-killin'" is completely intact as well.

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Posted September 03 2009 - 05:35 AM



Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Karlosi 

One thing I was wondering is, wouldn't this particular release be a candidate for "official" Warner release on a regular DVD set? It's one thing to release obscurities that aren't as likely to sell much, but I think the name OUR GANG (or THE LITTLE RASCALS) would ensure a good amount of sales. I think this is what some fans wrere concerned about regarding The Warner Archive. 

In several of the Warner chats, they always stood firm in that they did not have any plans to produce a DVD set of shorts as they did for Laser.  That was despite all the crys for the Joe McDoakes, Traveltakes, Pete Smith Specialties and Our Gang to be released.  I am glad that they are trying this through WA and happy for the announcement of the Joe McDoakes and Dogville Comedies.  I expect this is the only way that they would be released.  These shorts released in the WA does not worry me, what would worry me is if they announced Show Boat Collection or Raintree County in the WA.  That would be the end of the world.
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