Jump to content



Sign up for a free account to remove the pop-up ads

Signing up for an account is fast and free. As a member you can join in the conversation, enter contests and remove the pop-up ads that guests get. Click here to create your free account.

Photo

3-D for Blu-ray Is Just Around the Corner


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
79 replies to this topic

#1 of 80 OFFLINE   RolandL

RolandL

    Screenwriter



  • 2,395 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 11 2001
  • LocationCromwell, CT

Posted August 18 2009 - 11:35 PM

I wonder which 3-D system they will be using? - http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3249 and http://www.cnet.com....0-339297894.htm



Roland Lataille
Cinerama web site

 


#2 of 80 OFFLINE   Jeff Robertson

Jeff Robertson

    Second Unit



  • 458 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 04 2000
  • Real Name:Jeff Robertson

Posted August 19 2009 - 04:03 AM

Are we gonna need HDMI 1.4?!?



#3 of 80 OFFLINE   MatthewA

MatthewA

    Producer



  • 6,306 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 2000
  • Real Name:Matthew
  • LocationSalinas, CA

Posted August 19 2009 - 10:13 AM

More importantly, will we need not only new TVs (or projectors) but new players?

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then.


#4 of 80 OFFLINE   Eric F

Eric F

    Screenwriter



  • 1,810 posts
  • Join Date: Sep 05 1999

Posted August 19 2009 - 10:47 AM

Well, if we need HDMI 1.4 it goes without saying we are going to need new displays and players. I wish they would just forget about the 3D stuff- it just confuses an even confused consumer HD market even more.


#5 of 80 OFFLINE   Brent M

Brent M

    Producer



  • 4,486 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 15 2001

Posted August 19 2009 - 01:48 PM

Not interested. I wouldn't even remotely consider upgrading my very expensive components(60" KURO Elite and Oppo BDP-83) just for the gimmick of 3D. Sorry, Jim Cameron and whoever else is pushing this standard, but I won't be buying in.

"If you're good at something, never do it for free."

#6 of 80 OFFLINE   Sam Posten

Sam Posten

    Executive Producer



  • 17,057 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 30 1997
  • Real Name:Sam Posten
  • LocationAberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ

Posted August 19 2009 - 03:10 PM

I said the same thing until I saw Panasonics demo last year.  This ain't yo daddy's 3D!

I lost my signature and all I got was this Nutter t-shirt


#7 of 80 OFFLINE   Ron-P

Ron-P

    Producer



  • 6,283 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 25 2000
  • Real Name:Ron

Posted August 20 2009 - 06:02 AM

I'm not a fan of 3D, I won't even bother much with it in theaters (I'll see 2D over 3D), just not that impressed with it and it's too straining on the eyes. So, no, I won't upgrade anything.

You have all the weapons you need...Now fight!


#8 of 80 OFFLINE   TravisR

TravisR

    Studio Mogul



  • 22,309 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 15 2004
  • LocationThe basement of the FBI building

Posted August 20 2009 - 06:54 AM

^ Have you seen a new movie in 3-D? I get a headache fairly quickly from older 3-D movies but I have yet to get even the slightest headache from current 3-D movies.

#9 of 80 OFFLINE   Eric F

Eric F

    Screenwriter



  • 1,810 posts
  • Join Date: Sep 05 1999

Posted August 20 2009 - 11:16 AM



Quote:
Originally Posted by TravisR 

^ Have you seen a new movie in 3-D? I get a headache fairly quickly from older 3-D movies but I have yet to get even the slightest headache from current 3-D movies.
Yes, I have seen a new movie in 3D and I still get headaches from the ones that require you to wear the polarized glasses (especially the IMAX 3D showings). After a 2hr+ movie in 3D I have a raging headache.



#10 of 80 ONLINE   DaveF

DaveF

    Executive Producer



  • 14,268 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 04 2001
  • Real Name:David Fischer
  • LocationOne Loudoun, Ashburn, VA

Posted August 20 2009 - 12:53 PM

Sounds great. I want it. It'll be a decade before it's reasonably available, affordable, and worthwhile.


#11 of 80 OFFLINE   TravisR

TravisR

    Studio Mogul



  • 22,309 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 15 2004
  • LocationThe basement of the FBI building

Posted August 20 2009 - 02:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric F View Post

Yes, I have seen a new movie in 3D and I still get headaches from the ones that require you to wear the polarized glasses (especially the IMAX 3D showings). After a 2hr+ movie in 3D I have a raging headache.

 

You're the first person that I've read that has had a problem with it.

#12 of 80 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

Ronald Epstein

    Studio Mogul



  • 40,545 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 03 1997

Posted August 20 2009 - 08:48 PM

We have seen many 3D demonstrations over the years and
I will agree with Mr. Posten that the Panasonic technology by
far is the best of them all.

I can’t wait until the technology becomes mainstream. Some
of you have no idea how much more enjoyable it is to sit in
your home and watch a film in quality 3D.  This isn't that cheesy
stuff with the cardboard glasses.   

 

Ronald J Epstein
Home Theater Forum co-owner

 

 Click Here for the latest/hottest Blu-ray Preorders  Click Here for our complete Blu-ray review archive

 Click Here for our complete 3D Blu-ray review archive Click Here for our complete DVD review archive

 Click Here for Blu-Ray Preorder Release Schedule  Click Here for forum posting rules and regulations


#13 of 80 ONLINE   DaveF

DaveF

    Executive Producer



  • 14,268 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 04 2001
  • Real Name:David Fischer
  • LocationOne Loudoun, Ashburn, VA

Posted August 21 2009 - 12:50 AM



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein 

This isn't that cheesy
stuff with the cardboard glasses.   
But it's stuff with bulky plastic glasses. It remains to be seen whether people will watch TV with the specialized, polarized-shutter glasses. I would for favorite shows e.g. BSG. But I'm a TV nut. I have a hard time envisioning the vast majority of my friends and family wearing these.

I doubt this will ever be more than a niche market for speciality programming.

But I still want it and hope for a quick and affordable marketing.



#14 of 80 OFFLINE   Worth

Worth

    Screenwriter



  • 1,175 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 17 2009

Posted August 21 2009 - 01:08 AM


Quote:
You're the first person that I've read that has had a problem with it.

Better make that two. I saw "Coraline" and "Up" in 3D and have no desire to see another 3D presentation whatsoever. The picture was dim and washed out compared to standard film or digital projection, and it gave me a headache at about the one hour mark.

I was around for the second 3D wave in the 80s, and from what I remember, it's no better now than it was then.


Sealed with a curse as sharp as a knife. Doomed is your soul and damned is your life.

#15 of 80 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

Ronald Epstein

    Studio Mogul



  • 40,545 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 03 1997

Posted August 21 2009 - 06:04 AM

 Dave,

To be honest, the glasses were never a distraction.  They
never felt heavy on the face.  And you know what?  If this
method right now produces the best 3D that I have seen
(and I have seen many demos from companies like Dalite
and Mitsubishi), then I welcome the glasses.

 

Ronald J Epstein
Home Theater Forum co-owner

 

 Click Here for the latest/hottest Blu-ray Preorders  Click Here for our complete Blu-ray review archive

 Click Here for our complete 3D Blu-ray review archive Click Here for our complete DVD review archive

 Click Here for Blu-Ray Preorder Release Schedule  Click Here for forum posting rules and regulations


#16 of 80 ONLINE   DaveF

DaveF

    Executive Producer



  • 14,268 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 04 2001
  • Real Name:David Fischer
  • LocationOne Loudoun, Ashburn, VA

Posted August 21 2009 - 06:34 AM



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein 

 Dave,

To be honest, the glasses were never a distraction.  They
never felt heavy on the face.  And you know what?  If this
method right now produces the best 3D that I have seen
(and I have seen many demos from companies like Dalite
and Mitsubishi), then I welcome the glasses.
That's good to hear. Knowing the technology behind them, they have to be bulkier than the simple polarized glasses used at the movie theaters. But I haven't worn them.


But I look at the slow shift to HD, and glacial shift to Blu Ray, and think that significant home use of 3D is a long ways off. Even for myself, I bought a 50" plasma and 40" LCD this year, a large 3D-capable set is 5 years off.

But I love the recent crush of 3D movies at the theaters, and think it's not a passing fad, but the new normal. The prospect of 3D at home is very cool. And I would watch my favorite TV in 3D, like Lost, BSG, Heroes, etc.


#17 of 80 ONLINE   DaveF

DaveF

    Executive Producer



  • 14,268 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 04 2001
  • Real Name:David Fischer
  • LocationOne Loudoun, Ashburn, VA

Posted August 21 2009 - 06:39 AM


Quote:
Originally Posted by Worth 

I was around for the second 3D wave in the 80s, and from what I remember, it's no better now than it was then.
3D in the 80s was analyglyph, right? Red / Blue paper / plastic throwaway glasses?

There's no comparison between "old" 3D and "new" 3D using polarized glasses. It's unfortunate that 3D gives you headaches. That's intrinsic to the mechanism, though I understand the filming process is better accounting for the physiology and decreasing the eyestrain for viewers.

Roger Ebert also has said he dislikes the 3D systems as it reduces the vibrancy of the image. I can't argue artistic taste there. But it's "simply" a technical problem requiring brighter projection to compensate.


#18 of 80 OFFLINE   Adam Gregorich

Adam Gregorich

    Executive Producer



  • 14,916 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 20 1999
  • LocationThe Other Washington

Posted August 21 2009 - 01:33 PM

Quote:
I said the same thing until I saw Panasonic's demo last year.  This ain't yo daddy's 3D! 

I couldn't have said it better.  It was amazing.  After the glasses had been on your face for 10 seconds you forgot they were there.  I had always thought 3D was a gimmick until this demo.  Unlike the current 3D BD content the demo was vibrant, full of color and did not give me a headache.  Even clips that you wouldn't of though would benefit from 3D did, like the opening ceremony of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing.  

The Pansonic demo used their 103" Plasma TV with a custom modifed BD50 BD player using the technology they are hoping becomes the 3D BD standard.

#19 of 80 OFFLINE   Douglas Monce

Douglas Monce

    Producer



  • 5,514 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 16 2006

Posted August 21 2009 - 02:04 PM



Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF 



3D in the 80s was analyglyph, right? Red / Blue paper / plastic throwaway glasses?

There's no comparison between "old" 3D and "new" 3D using polarized glasses. It's unfortunate that 3D gives you headaches. That's intrinsic to the mechanism, though I understand the filming process is better accounting for the physiology and decreasing the eyestrain for viewers.

Roger Ebert also has said he dislikes the 3D systems as it reduces the vibrancy of the image. I can't argue artistic taste there. But it's "simply" a technical problem requiring brighter projection to compensate.
3D in the 80s used polarized glasses, as did the majority of 3D presentations in the 1950s. The red and blue system was an alternative for small theaters that couldn't afford the polarized system. It was never the cutting edge. The polarized system has been around for quite a while.

Doug


"I'm in great shape, for the shape I'm in."
Bob Hope in The Ghostbreakers

#20 of 80 ONLINE   DaveF

DaveF

    Executive Producer



  • 14,268 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 04 2001
  • Real Name:David Fischer
  • LocationOne Loudoun, Ashburn, VA

Posted August 21 2009 - 03:16 PM

I guessed I lived in a small town. I never saw polarized glasses in the theaters, except for Disney's "Captain Eo". Jaws 3D and such were all cheap anaglyph.