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HTF BLU-RAY REVIEW: The Last Starfighter 25th Anniversary Edition



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#1 of 40 OFFLINE   Kevin EK

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Posted August 09 2009 - 07:07 PM

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#2 of 40 OFFLINE   Ray_R

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Posted August 09 2009 - 10:19 PM

So you give a Disney pre-teen film a three and this one a two and a half? When TRON is ever released onto Blu-ray, I certainly hope you're not the one reviewing it.


#3 of 40 OFFLINE   Kevin EK

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Posted August 09 2009 - 11:06 PM

I'm sorry, but I don't know what Disney pre-teen film to which you're referring.  If you mean Coraline, I have to stand by my judgment on that.

I willingly recognize that not everyone will share my opinion. I'm happy to see other opinions than my own.  But for the purposes of my reviews, I have to go with my own tastes and reactions, and I do try to explain my positions each time.

I'm not saying this is a bad film - just that it didn't add up for me.  The same problems it had upon its release in 1984 are still with it,and if anything, the film hasn't gained from the passage of time.  I have given the reasons for my valuation of the film and its special features.  I am interested in your reasons - please feel free to post them here.  It very well may be that many readers will go with your thinking on this.  That to me is the whole point of the forum.

And to be honest, it's unlikely I would get TRON for review, since I handle the Universal releases.  I have done a few Disney titles over the past two years, but I guarantee that one would get snapped up long before I'd ever hear about it.

#4 of 40 OFFLINE   Matt Hough

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Posted August 10 2009 - 04:37 AM

Kevin,

Ray has mixed you up with me. I gave HANNAH MONTANA a 3/5. This is what he's referring to.

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Posted August 10 2009 - 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by MattH. /forum/thread/291469/htf-blu-ray-review-the-last-starfighter-25th-anniversary-edition#post_3594476 Kevin, Ray has mixed you up with me. I gave HANNAH MONTANA a 3/5. This is what he's referring to.
You honestly gave a Hannah Montana feature a 3/5 score?/img/vbsmilies/htf/laugh.gif And what did you give Big Trouble in Little China?/img/vbsmilies/htf/crazy.gif

#6 of 40 OFFLINE   Neil Middlemiss

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Posted August 10 2009 - 09:11 AM

Ray - surely it's ok to have a different opinion on a film than you? And have you even seen the Hannah Montana film that Matt reviewed?
Originally Posted by Ray_R /img/forum/go_quote.gif"> So you give a Disney pre-teen film a three and this one a two and a half? When TRON is ever released onto Blu-ray, I certainly hope you're not the one reviewing it.
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Posted August 10 2009 - 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Neil Middlemiss /forum/thread/291469/htf-blu-ray-review-the-last-starfighter-25th-anniversary-edition#post_3594561

Ray - surely it's ok to have a different opinion on a film than you? And have you even seen the Hannah Montana film that Matt reviewed?
 
 
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Disagreeing with the technical aspects of a film is one thing, but each person interprets the content differently.  Unlike the picture or sound, the quality of a movie to a person is entirely subjective.  The constant near-personal attacks from Ray in several threads over this is in IMO way out of line.

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Posted August 10 2009 - 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jesse Blacklow /img/forum/go_quote.gif"> The constant near-personal attacks from Ray in several threads over this is in IMO way out of line.  
Just be glad that you're not a digital copy, you'd be really offended by him.

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Posted August 10 2009 - 11:40 AM

I'm a tad dissappointed they made a crappy new cover, when the HD DVD used the original poster art.

And somebody should have thought to do a segment on the fans who have created an actual working Starfighter game!


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Posted August 10 2009 - 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by TravisR /forum/thread/291469/htf-blu-ray-review-the-last-starfighter-25th-anniversary-edition#post_3594599 Just be glad that you're not a digital copy, you'd be really offended by him. /img/vbsmilies/htf/smile.gif">
Oh really? No I have no desire to watch some pre-teen Disney dreck. ONE MORE THING! How does the Death Blossom look in 1080p? I looked at the screenshots for the title on DVDBeaver and it appeared the background scenes had very fine film grain. This was shot in a slightly soft focus filter? And what about an eventual release of Conan the Barbarian on Blu-ray? BY CROM!

#11 of 40 OFFLINE   Kevin EK

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Posted August 10 2009 - 12:40 PM

Ray,

The Death Blossom looks like the other CGI shots in the film - very sharp and clear, and very much like what we'd think a previz or animatic would look like today.  It's a good looking shot, but would work better in an animated film.

I noted the difference in the video quality in my review - in that the live action scenes have a film-like look to them - a slight softness to the focus in the background, etc.  The CGI shots are all very sharp, and stand out more from the live action in 1080p than they would in standard definition.

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Posted August 10 2009 - 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin EK /forum/thread/291469/htf-blu-ray-review-the-last-starfighter-25th-anniversary-edition#post_3594651 Ray, The Death Blossom looks like the other CGI shots in the film - very sharp and clear, and very much like what we'd think a previz or animatic would look like today.  It's a good looking shot, but would work better in an animated film. I noted the difference in the video quality in my review - in that the live action scenes have a film-like look to them - a slight softness to the focus in the background, etc.  The CGI shots are all very sharp, and stand out more from the live action in 1080p than they would in standard definition.
It's funny how I remember even the Collector's Edition DVD how the scenes with the two in the Starfighter looked compared to the CGI. Death Blossom scene is always my favourite part of this film since it's the "last resort" weapon type trope. Or much talked about feature such as the Omega Thirteen? I'm hoping you're a fan of The Frighteners since the HDDVD suffered in the bitrate for the video because of the HUGELY extensive 4 hour some-odd features from the Signature Collection LD.

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Posted August 16 2009 - 03:09 PM

Kevin,

Thanks for the excellent and precise review of the Blu-ray.  No one on the verge of purchasing this Blu-ray is questioning the caliber of this film;  We wanted to know precisely what you told us with your reviews of the bonus content and the picture and sound quality.

On one hand, I wonder what it would be like if someone threw even another million bucks at the space sequences in this film, but their showing of their age is part of the cheesy charm of this film that has periods of both fun and pure crap. 

I really enjoy this film, but I cannot defend it. 

I am looking forward to purchasing the Blu-ray with confidence now because of your review. 



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Posted August 16 2009 - 03:34 PM

This was a buy (again) from the minute it was announced.   One of my favorite 1980's just plain fun films so obviously I'd rate it well above the 2/5 that Kevin rated it, but his opinion is still his opinion (**).     Starting from a film I had no interest in even seeing when it was first released, it has continued to entertain me every time I see it and I thank the day that a friend literally dragged me out of my apartment to see it.     It's not quite up the quality story level of Enemy Mine from the same era, but it certainly bests so many more serious science fiction films of the last 4 decades.     It reminds me a lot of The Goonies being a film that's a lot better than it has any right to be.  


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Posted August 18 2009 - 04:29 AM

I have fond memories of Last Starfighter, coming as it did the summer after Return of the Jedi and in the same summer as Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. I remember being impressed at the time by the technological achievement of its all-CGI effects - at a time when the acronym didn't exist! - while at the same time thinking that they weren't as 'real' as the model effects from those other two films I mentioned. Those that make the same claim now - and I can see where they're coming from - would do well to look at this film to see how far CGI has advanced./img/vbsmilies/htf/smile.gif
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Posted August 18 2009 - 11:18 AM

Haven't received my copy from Amazon as yet, but I'm very interested in the "film quality" likeness to the original theatrical presentation of the movie.  Currently I have the 6/8/1999 DVD release and the 9/18/2007 HD DVD release that I have attempted to compare with my memory of the original film projected at the cinema in 1984. FYI:  I remember actually thinking while watching the film at the cinema that animation was used like Disney used to do in a number of movies like "The Three Caballeros".  i.e. The CGI graphics had that kind of look to me. Found some /img/vbsmilies/htf/confused.gif discrepancies with different reviews on the net: One review said the codec transfer was the same as the HD DVD release:

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Posted August 18 2009 - 10:49 PM

Paul,

I would like to hear what you think of the picture quality once you get your copy.  I looked at the different reviews myself and went with my own gut on this one.  But as I said in the review, I'm watching on a 40" monitor.  If you have a 60" and you're seeing the DNR one reviewer thought he saw, I'd really like to know about it.  My reaction to the picture quality is mostly a study of the contrast between the computer animation and the live-action footage.  I think you'll find that it's a noticeable jump between the worlds.

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Posted August 31 2009 - 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin EK /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Ray,

The Death Blossom looks like the other CGI shots in the film - very sharp and clear, and very much like what we'd think a previz or animatic would look like today.  It's a good looking shot, but would work better in an animated film.

I noted the difference in the video quality in my review - in that the live action scenes have a film-like look to them - a slight softness to the focus in the background, etc.  The CGI shots are all very sharp, and stand out more from the live action in 1080p than they would in standard definition.
I just came across this thread. I doubt that the computer graphics in this film would work very well in any animated film now. The graphics in this movie were crude even back during its initial release, especially when you compare it to the model work that was one of the mainstays of SFX during that period. I saw this film during its theatrical run and I have to agree with your assessment of its quality. It was average at best. I've been thinking of renting it just to see how badly it plays now.
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Posted August 31 2009 - 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Edwin-S /forum/thread/291469/htf-blu-ray-review-the-last-starfighter-25th-anniversary-edition#post_3601081 I've been thinking of renting it just to see how badly it plays now.
I just watched the rental over the weekend and this movie does not pass the test of time, either cgi-wise, story-wise, or acting.  I really couldn't recommend this movie at all.
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Posted August 31 2009 - 09:33 AM

Thanks for review.  I got my copy from Netflix and watched with the whole family over the weekend.  My two kids (ages 9 and 11) LOVED it.  
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