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HTF DVD Review: LIFE ON MARS, SERIES 1 (U.K.)


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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted July 28 2009 - 01:08 AM



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#2 of 16 OFFLINE   Dave Scarpa

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Posted July 28 2009 - 03:01 AM

I have it coming from Netflix as BBC stuff is just way too expensive for 8 episodes, I look forward to comparing it with the American version , which I liked and felt it deserved a second season.
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#3 of 16 OFFLINE   Ray H

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Posted July 28 2009 - 03:32 AM

I caved and bought the R2 releases before this was announced (not really a problem cuz they were a helluva lot cheaper). My only disappointment was that the R2 set featured some music replacement in a few episodes. Most notably in episode 4, "Wild Horses" by The Rolling Stones was featured in...
...an emotional scene where the cops discover a body.
The song was replaced by "I Can't Change It" by Frankie Miller, which isn't bad, just not as impactful.

I was wondering if the song had been reinstated for this release. I should receive the disc from Netflix to confirm for myself later today.

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#4 of 16 OFFLINE   Tim Tucker

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Posted July 28 2009 - 03:42 AM

Reminds me of a joke a UK friend told me when he heard about the US remake.

"An American cop from 2008 travels back in time to 1973... and finds out nothing's changed."
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MORTON DILL: No... no, ma'am, I... I'm from Alabama.
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#5 of 16 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted July 28 2009 - 03:58 AM


Quote:
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I caved and bought the R2 releases before this was announced (not really a problem cuz they were a helluva lot cheaper). My only disappointment was that the R2 set featured some music replacement in a few episodes. Most notably in episode 4, "Wild Horses" by The Rolling Stones was featured in...
The song was replaced by "I Can't Change It" by Frankie Miller, which isn't bad, just not as impactful.

I was wondering if the song had been reinstated for this release. I should receive the disc from Netflix to confirm for myself later today.
 
I know the scene you mean. "Wild Horses" isn't there. I suspect that this edition tracks the R2 set in every respect.

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Posted July 28 2009 - 06:27 AM

Aaargggh. Music replacements! And I've been waiting and just ordered this through the Deep Discount sale. And 'Wild Horses' is a great song. Sigh. And, for once, I've heard the American version WILL NOT have any music replacements and it was all cleared. There's a switch.

#7 of 16 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted July 28 2009 - 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Hollywoodaholic ">

Aaargggh. Music replacements! And I've been waiting and just ordered this through the Deep Discount sale. And 'Wild Horses' is a great song. Sigh. And, for once, I've heard the American version WILL NOT have any music replacements and it was all cleared. There's a switch.
If no one had told you, you wouldn't know the difference. "I Can't Change It" works beautifully in context; in some ways, the lyrics are better suited, but I can't say why without spoilers. John Simm even says something on the commentary track about how much he likes the music for the scene. Trust me: you'll be riveted by what's going on among the characters at that moment.

Just to be clear: I'm not defending music replacements, just stressing that this one doesn't create an obvious tear in the fabric of the show. (And yes, I have seen the version with "Wild Horses". I'd actually forgotten about it until Ray's post reminded me.)

Now, if they'd replaced the Bowie music, that would be different.
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Posted July 28 2009 - 09:51 AM



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Originally Posted by Ray H [url=/forum/thread/290960/htf-dvd-review-life-on-mars-series-1-u-k#post_3589814]

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Posted July 28 2009 - 02:25 PM

Watched the First two eps, I still like the American version, but have to admit the UK Version bests it in every way. Especially Glensters Turn as Hunt. Harvey Keitel was cast for his star Power but having seen the american Pilot the original casting of Colm Meaney would've suited the show better. Can't wait to see the rest, but I guess it'll be awhile till Ashes to Ashes is available here.

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#10 of 16 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted July 29 2009 - 01:06 AM

Cees, thank for confirming that the U.K. Blu-ray isn't region-locked. I wasn't able to determine that from the Amazon.uk listing. I'll amend the review accordingly.
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Posted July 29 2009 - 01:26 AM



Originally Posted by Michael Reuben 

Cees, thank for confirming that the U.K. Blu-ray isn't region-locked. I wasn't able to determine that from the Amazon.uk listing. I'll amend the review accordingly.
Just to be clear, if I order the UK BD of the Series 2 on Blu-ray, it will play in my (region 1?)Panasonic Blu-ray player? This greatly interests me, since I just ordered the first series set domestically on regular DVD. But, also, since the show was shot in 16mm, I'm not expecting much from the BD, but the price is definitely right (that's about $17USD, right?).

I have a Panasonic DMP-BD30 Blu-ray player (from 2007, but firmware updated to version 2.9)

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Posted July 29 2009 - 03:02 AM

The BDs aren't region locked, but the extras are PAL so they may not work on your players. There's also some speculation that the show was actually completed at SD resolution at 25 fps and scaled to 1080p and slowed down to 23.976 for the Blu-ray.

I ended up just getting the PAL DVDs. Still not sure if that was the wisest choice, but I did it so I could reinstate some of the original music selections for my own use.

Back on the music replacement, the new choices are actually very well done as opposed to most cases of music replacement. Songs by the Blue Oyster Cult, Lou Reed, Deep Purple, and the Rolling Stones are replaced by songs from other '70s bands and artists. But the show surprisingly still managed to keep some huge hits from David Bowie, The Who, Wings, and Led Zeppelin.

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Posted July 29 2009 - 02:41 PM



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Just to be clear, if I order the UK BD of the Series 2 on Blu-ray, it will play in my (region 1?)Panasonic Blu-ray player?

 
Wayne,

Yes it will.
Your player is region A, but the BD is all regions: ABC.

As Ray pointed out, the extra's may be DVD formatted, in which case they could be PAL. I haven't tried playing anything from the Extras choice, so I cannot confirm that now, but I'll check it out tomorrow and report back here.


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Posted July 30 2009 - 09:53 AM

Thanks Ray and Cees. I went ahead and ordered the UK blu-ray of Life On Mars Series 2 (my DD order for SD Season 1 had already shipped), plus threw in an order for Almost Famous blu-ray for total $38USD (including shipping). Sweet deal. I really had no idea that about 67% of Blu-rays are region-free. Another great advantage.

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Posted July 30 2009 - 10:11 AM

(Owning a US DMP-BD50, I cannot play Region-B locked BDs myself!

Just incidently ordered one from Amazon/UK (Wallstreet). I will only be able to play it after I acquire a European Blu-ray player.)

I promised to come back with the facts about the extras on Life on Mars.

Here's the bad part: my player wouldn't send a video signal over HDMI. So that probably makes it something it doesn't support (like 50 fps or so, or 570i). Haven't tried other video outputs yet, but I guess it won't play either.

The (slightly) better news is: it did play, and audio is intact. The "extras" on disc 1 are actually one extra, split in two (or perhaps this is a bit of bad news, because it seems less than what Michael reported in his review), and I got the impression that I got a lot already by listening to it even without the images.

The other good news is: I've seen 4 episodes now (extremely nice picture) without any problem, and we're very impressed. (This isn't pluralis majestatis: I'm speaking of my wife and me.)

I don't need to add anything to what Michael wrote already. Just say: top entertainment indeed.


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Posted July 31 2009 - 12:36 AM



Originally Posted by Ray H 

There's also some speculation that the show was actually completed at SD resolution at 25 fps and scaled to 1080p and slowed down to 23.976 for the Blu-ray.
Not speculation; fact. Life on Mars in the UK was never in HD.

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