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IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776


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#1 of 27 OFFLINE   Dave Hahn

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Posted July 02 2009 - 09:40 AM


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Jean Louise, Jean Louise stand up; Your father's passing.
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#2 of 27 OFFLINE   Mike Frezon

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Posted July 02 2009 - 09:53 AM

Dave:  That is one of the best posts I have ever read.  /img/vbsmilies/htf/wink.gif Thanks!  /img/vbsmilies/htf/smile.gif

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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#3 of 27 OFFLINE   Scott Merryfield

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Posted July 02 2009 - 10:41 AM

Thomas Jefferson's lawyers just called. He's suing for copyright infringement. /img/vbsmilies/htf/smile.gif

#4 of 27 OFFLINE   Mike Frezon

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Posted July 02 2009 - 10:56 AM

What...Jefferson can't represent himself?!?  /img/vbsmilies/htf/confused.gif

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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Posted July 02 2009 - 11:09 AM

Jefferson stole both the ideas and the phraseology from the British classical liberals, e.g. Edmund Burke.  He's in no condition to complain about IP theft:  both figuratively and literally. 
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#6 of 27 OFFLINE   Dave Hahn

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Posted July 02 2009 - 11:11 AM

Thanks Mike!

I try to remember to post this each year, but active brain cells seem to be at a premium these days. 

I think it is always a good thing to remember that, "We stand on the shoulders of giants."
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#7 of 27 OFFLINE   Mike Frezon

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Posted July 02 2009 - 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dennis Nicholls /forum/thread/289807/in-congress-july-4-1776#post_3579212 Jefferson stole both the ideas and the phraseology from the British classical liberals, e.g. Edmund Burke.  He's in no condition to complain about IP theft:  both figuratively and literally.  /img/vbsmilies/htf/sleep.gif  
Maybe he'll be using the law firm of Cruelty & Perfidy.

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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#8 of 27 ONLINE   Cees Alons

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Posted July 02 2009 - 12:45 PM

Congratulations, people of those independent States!

Especially in the year we commemorate the common Dutch/American beginnings of a city on Manhattan, which started exactly 400 years ago by a (hired) man named Hudson.

Oh, and Thomas Jefferson borrowed ideas and phrasing from the Dutch too, Dennis, lots of it, actually, although I won't argue extensively about it here.  

 
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#9 of 27 ONLINE   Dennis Nicholls

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Posted July 02 2009 - 01:31 PM

Cees,
You won't get an argument from me on that thesis.  In fact I even recommended this book to you once which posits that the Dutch were the "beta" version of the British Empire.
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#10 of 27 ONLINE   Dennis Nicholls

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Posted July 02 2009 - 01:41 PM

The Declaration [of Independence] was in the main a restatement of the principles which had animated the Whig struggle against the later Stuarts and the English Revolution of 1688, and it now became the symbol and rallying centre of the Patriot cause.  Its immediate result was to increase the number of Loyalists, frightened by this splendid defiance.  But the purpose of the colonies was proclaimed.  The waverers were forced to a decision.  There was now no turning back.

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#11 of 27 ONLINE   Cees Alons

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Posted July 02 2009 - 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dennis Nicholls /forum/thread/289807/in-congress-july-4-1776#post_3579290
I certainly remembered that, Dennis. (Just couldn't resist!) So I bought the book and read it with great pleasure. Cees

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Posted July 02 2009 - 10:55 PM

Hey, where's the typo?  Or did Dave run spell-check first?

#13 of 27 ONLINE   Dennis Nicholls

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Posted July 03 2009 - 01:18 AM

And then there's this viewpoint...
http://www.nytimes.c...tml?ref=opinion
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Posted July 03 2009 - 11:22 AM

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Posted July 03 2009 - 05:14 PM

A few months ago I stood in the room where this document was signed.  Historic Philadelphia is a really nice place to visit for those who are moved by or interested in history of the USA.  I get a chill whenever I go visit the real liberty bell.
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#16 of 27 OFFLINE   Mike Frezon

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Posted July 03 2009 - 07:45 PM

Cool, Philip. 

I will definitely be doing that someday.  Philly is way too close to where I live for me not to find my way to Independence Hall.  I get shivers thinking about it. 

There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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Posted July 03 2009 - 08:13 PM

The 4th of July is a good day to go fishin'.

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Posted July 04 2009 - 07:17 PM

When our land is illumined with Liberty's smile,
If a foe from within strikes a blow at her glory,
Down, down, with the traitor who dares to defile,
The flag of the stars, and the page of her story!
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By the millions unchained, who their birthrights have gained,
We will keep her bright blazon forever unstained,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave,
While the land that is free is the home of the brave.

- Oliver Wendel Holmes


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Posted July 04 2009 - 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Nicholls /forum/thread/289807/in-congress-july-4-1776#post_3579212 Jefferson stole both the ideas and the phraseology from the British classical liberals, e.g. Edmund Burke.  He's in no condition to complain about IP theft:  both figuratively and literally. 
One could argue that Jefferson's use of both the ideas and phraseology of British political ideology was very deliberate: he was, in effect, saying, "This is the standard to which you hold yourselves, but it is not a standard which you are willing to grant us." I don't think it's a coincidence that Jefferson used British ideals as a justification for rebellion against British rule. I had a fantastic Fourth of July. How about all of you?

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Posted July 04 2009 - 09:42 PM

I watched me a little 1776...along with a number of other activities. 

This quote is always timely...but even more so given the current situation in the New York State Senate:


There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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