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#1 of 63 David Deeb

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Posted April 28 2009 - 01:29 PM

I can't believe there isn't more discussion about this film. It opens Friday.

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I just saw the trailer and it looks great. Are there any "non-spoilerish" reviews out there yet? I know the film is leaked, but I purposefully avoided any comments about that. I'm looking for legit reviews of the film.

Any one else going to see it?

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Posted April 28 2009 - 02:49 PM

I'm kinda surprised there isn't more "buzz" too. So far it's at 100% on RT, but that's only with 6 or 7 reviews in. I'm almost positive it will be better than X3(not really difficult to top that one) and if it's on par with the first two X-Men flicks I'll be happy. Posted Image
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Posted April 28 2009 - 02:50 PM

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Any one else going to see it?
I'll definitely catch it this weekend. For me, Jackman as Wolverine is the highlight of the X-Men series (after X3 ended, I turned to my friend and said "Well, at least Jackman was good again") so I'm hoping the movie is good.

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Posted April 28 2009 - 09:39 PM

Travis,

It isn't. It's better than The Last Stand but not by much. For me, Singer's version of Wolverine's origins (flashbacks in X-Men and X2) trump this film easily.

That's how off it is. Some details line up pretty great with Singer's two films. Other details (the most important ones) either don't come close or are half-a$$ed in this film. Ultimately, what does the film in is this specific line spoken by Jackman(who again is great but let down by everything else around him)"I'm the best there is at what I do. And what I do isn't very nice." We don't get that.

Here's a simple question: After viewing X-Men and X2 more specifically, how do you think Logan lost his memory?

As an aside, I've seen both versions.
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#5 of 63 Sam Favate

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Posted April 29 2009 - 12:56 AM

I hoped this movie would relate to events as shown in X2. Still, planning to see it this weekend.

I really thought the studio should have just called it "Wolverine." I guess if you are planning a number of other films in the series, "X-Men Origins" makes sense from a marketing perspective, but as a movie, "Wolverine" is a much more powerful title.

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Posted April 29 2009 - 01:28 AM

Sam,

It relates to X2 in a half-ass way. That's the bad part about it (besides the third act). Again, sometimes it goes all the way. Other times, it totally screws with continuity.

The actual procedure involving Logan is where it starts to go south. Singer's version is much more dramatic...more searing...more effective. Here, it happens its hollow as hell.

But again, it's better than X-Men The Last Stand just based on Hugh and Liev's chemistry.
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#7 of 63 Chuck Mayer

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Posted April 29 2009 - 04:29 AM

I think the ads have been terrible. It looks more like X-Men Rejects (since they have ads touting all of these lame characters besides Wolverine) than Wolverine.

A stronger focus might have been helpful. As it is, it looks like Fox just wanted a much cheaper X-Men (which would follow with Fox's terrible business decisions on these things). That is only based on the commercials and the last trailer.

I'll probably see it, but feel no immediate pull to the theater. That is rare for me for a summer film. I am much more excited for the other May offerings.
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Posted April 29 2009 - 04:48 AM

Chuck,

Telling you now, just stay away from it if you really liked X-Men and X2.

With this film, this franchise is inching closer to Fantastic Four territory.
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#9 of 63 Shane D

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Posted April 29 2009 - 05:25 AM

sad thing about the comercials too is it looks like they are recycling xmen powers. teleporting, optic blasts. i miss the world where people had unique powers, but that seems like 3 different nightcrawlers now since x2

#10 of 63 Greg_S_H

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Posted April 29 2009 - 09:34 AM

Well, the optic blast is Cyclops. I don't know about the teleporting. I haven't paid too close attention to the trailers since I'm not going to see the movie until maybe cable (note the lowercase c).

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Posted April 29 2009 - 02:09 PM

Down to 41% at RT. It's looking worse and worse for this film.

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Posted April 30 2009 - 12:33 AM

Being the geeks that we are, my brother and I will see it Friday no matter what the reviews say. We do this with every big comic flick. We're gluttons for punishment.

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Posted April 30 2009 - 02:22 AM

how is it cyclops? isn't this thing set 20 or so years ago or something? please tell me him and wolverine never meet in the movie.

#14 of 63 Cory S.

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Posted April 30 2009 - 02:49 AM

Shane,

They don't actually meet but there's definitely no way Scott doesn't find out how he and the other prisoners escaped...if you really think about it. I'll just put it that.

One of many continuity blunders, in my opinion.
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#15 of 63 Charles Knox

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Posted April 30 2009 - 04:33 AM

I'm a big Wolverine fan, but the trailers for this movie looks awful. Really cannot see this having an $80million opening weekend.

#16 of 63 David Deeb

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Posted April 30 2009 - 01:51 PM

I'm hoping that this is good.

But if it isn't, then the only ones to blame are the filmmakers and Marvel Comics.

Because there is a 40+ years of X-Men comic book continuity & story-telling already in place.

Until these filmmakers learn to embrace the source material, all they are doing is ticking off their best advocates.

All we hear these days is "viral marketing". Why don't filmmakers of comic book movies simply listen to comic book fans, and then every thing else would fall into place for them?

(P.S. - I know why they don't listen: they think they know the characters better than we do)

#17 of 63 Sam Favate

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Posted May 01 2009 - 12:55 AM

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Until these filmmakers learn to embrace the source material, all they are doing is ticking off their best advocates.

(P.S. - I know why they don't listen: they think they know the characters better than we do)

The best movies of adapted material always respect the source material. The first two X-Men films did, the first two Spider-Man films, the Dark Knight and so on.

I don't think it is a matter of studios or writers or directors thinking they know these characters better, rather it is a marketing decision on what plays better to a wider audience. Those decisions usually make for bad movies. Kids are smarter than they are often given credit for and they can sense when something feels like a product rather than a genuine article.

#18 of 63 Stephen Orr

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Posted May 01 2009 - 04:04 AM

Mixed feelings on this one. Was excited about seeing it but based on the generally bad reviews, cannot justify dropping $10 on a ticket for it. It's in my Netflix queue, and I am pretty sure it'll be on Blu/DVD sooner than later.

#19 of 63 Brian Borst

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Posted May 01 2009 - 04:22 AM

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I'm hoping that this is good.

But if it isn't, then the only ones to blame are the filmmakers and Marvel Comics.

Because there is a 40+ years of X-Men comic book continuity & story-telling already in place.

Until these filmmakers learn to embrace the source material, all they are doing is ticking off their best advocates.

All we hear these days is "viral marketing". Why don't filmmakers of comic book movies simply listen to comic book fans, and then every thing else would fall into place for them?

(P.S. - I know why they don't listen: they think they know the characters better than we do)

What does Marvel have to do with this? The rights to the X-Men characters still lie with 20th Century Fox. That's one of the reasons the film was made in the first place, if they don't make a movie with those characters in a couple of years the rights revert back to Marvel Studios. And Fox obviously doesn't want that. That's also why there are reboots rumored for Daredevil and the Fantastic Four.
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Posted May 01 2009 - 01:46 PM

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