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#1 of 34 OFFLINE   Marcel H.

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Posted April 28 2009 - 05:31 AM

Like Joe Karlosi did it for the Halloween-themed Set, let's speculate a bit about Warner's forthcoming Film Noir Box.

Some facts that we already know from their last chat:

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My request is for a fifth film noir box. Given the tough economic times, it would be
great if - like Vol. 4 - it featured 10 films, including: Riffraff, The Clay Pigeon, Armored Car Robbery, I Died a Thousand Times, The Locket, Stranger on the Third Floor, Born to Be Bad, and
another few surprises.

The FILM NOIR V FIVE BOX is coming in a few months. NONE of the titles you mentioned are in the collection, but all of those titles are likely to show up through Warner Archive releases. So, it's a win/win situation. Lots more NOIR!

What's left as potential titles for a fifth volume and which titles do you want to see in it?

Personally, I have no overview, which Noirs are sitting in their vaults and I'll pick this set up no matter what movies will be included but here are some real buffs among us. Furthermore I believe this thread is a nice way to kill some time till we see the official announcement and maybe Warner will get some inspiration for a sixth, seventh and eight Film Noir set. Posted Image
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#2 of 34 OFFLINE   Dave B Ferris

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Posted April 28 2009 - 06:40 AM

My main 'want' in a new box would be "Devil Thumbs a Ride".

#3 of 34 OFFLINE   CineKarine

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Posted April 28 2009 - 06:57 AM

I would especially want:

Backfire (50)
The Man I Love (46)
Second Chance (52) - not considered noir by some, but actually much more noirish that several titles included in the Fox noir collection series Posted Image
The Woman on Pier 13 (51) - that one is almost a parody with a very troubled production history Posted Image

I think someone mentioned in another thread that Julie (56) will be included?
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#4 of 34 OFFLINE   Jim_K

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Posted April 28 2009 - 07:40 AM

Well eliminating the titles mentioned (BTW I'm hugely disappointed that Stranger on the Third Floor won't make the cut and is planned to be dumped in the Archives) my 10 picks would be

Desperate - one of Anthony Mann's finest Noirs IMO. Raymond Burr's psychotic villain is iconic and memorable
The Devil Thumbs a Ride - Lawrence Tierney plays a sociopathic hitch-hiker - what's not to like?
The Window - remade numerous times
Out of the Fog - Garfield/Lapino
The Threat
- Charles McGraw
The Mask of Dimitrios - Lorre/Greenstreet
He Ran all the Way- Garfield
Conflict - Bogart/Greenstreet
Ride the Pink Horse - Robert Montgomery
Rogue Cop - Robert Taylor

A nice little sampling of everything noir
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#5 of 34 OFFLINE   Charles H

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Posted April 28 2009 - 07:53 AM

CRY TERROR!, THE DECKS RAN RED, HIGH WALL, THE BRIBE, THE TALL TARGET, MAN IN A CLOAK, THE BLACK HAND, THE VERDICT (Lorre and Greenstreet). WOMAN IN WHITE, WHILE THE CITY SLEEPS, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT (Being remade), CONSPIRATOR, THE SECRET FURY, TALK ABOUT A STRANGER, SHADOW ON THE WALL, SHADOW IN THE SKY, TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY, LIGHTNING STRIKES TWICE, DIAL 119, THE PEOPLE AGAINST o'HARA, THE SELLOUT, DANGEROUS MISSION.
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#6 of 34 OFFLINE   Richard M S

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Posted April 28 2009 - 08:05 AM

Didn't I read somewhere the late director Vincent Sherman recorded commentary for several films thus far not released? I seem to specifically recall he did a commentary for at least one of the two Ann Sheridan film noirs he directed: NORA PRENTISS and THE UNFAITHFUL. So those would be my guess.

And would you categorize Vincente Sherman's brilliant, still ahead of its time film THE HARD WAY as a film noir? Joan Leslie should hopefully be involved as well, at least for a commentary track.

I hope we find out soon!

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Posted April 28 2009 - 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_K
my 10 picks would be

Desperate - one of Anthony Mann's finest Noirs IMO. Raymond Burr's psychotic villain is iconic and memorable
The Devil Thumbs a Ride - Lawrence Tierney plays a sociopathic hitch-hiker - what's not to like?
The Window - remade numerous times
Out of the Fog - Garfield/Lapino
The Threat
- Charles McGraw
The Mask of Dimitrios - Lorre/Greenstreet
He Ran all the Way- Garfield
Conflict - Bogart/Greenstreet
Ride the Pink Horse - Robert Montgomery
Rogue Cop - Robert Taylor

A nice little sampling of everything noir

That's a nice list, but Ride The Pink Horse and He Ran All The Way are Universal and UA films respectively so they won't make it. I'd replace them with The Bribe and While The City Sleeps.
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Posted April 28 2009 - 10:16 AM

While the City Sleeps is on my list. One of my favorites.
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#9 of 34 OFFLINE   Jim_K

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Posted April 28 2009 - 10:18 AM

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That's a nice list, but Ride The Pink Horse and He Ran All The Way are Universal and UA films respectively so they won't make it. I'd replace them with The Bribe and While The City Sleeps.


Thanks and you're correct. Thought Pink Horse was MGM for some reason and I originally picked The Locket for more Mitchum then realized it was slated for Archives and scrambled for a replacement (He Ran All the way).

Almost picked The Verdict but already had a Lorre/Greenstreet selected with Dimitrios. Posted Image
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#10 of 34 OFFLINE   Peter M Fitzgerald

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Posted April 28 2009 - 12:15 PM

If the set features 10 films, and won't include any of the titles mentioned in that Warner Chat question, I'd go with:

WHEN STRANGERS MARRY (1944, Monogram)
THREE STRANGERS (1946, WB)
DEEP VALLEY (1947, WB)
DESPERATE (1947, RKO)
THE DEVIL THUMBS A RIDE (1947, RKO)
THEY WON'T BELIEVE ME (1947, RKO)
THE THREAT (1949, RKO)
THE WINDOW (1949, RKO)
CRY DANGER (1951, RKO)
WHILE THE CITY SLEEPS (1956, RKO)

Other possibles, not yet mentioned:

BEWITCHED (1945, MGM)
CRACK-UP (1946, RKO)
DEADLINE AT DAWN (1946, RKO)
THE ARNELO AFFAIR (1947, MGM)
THE UNSUSPECTED (1947, WB)
BERLIN EXPRESS (1948, RKO)
FOLLOW ME QUIETLY (1949, RKO)
THE TATTOOED STRANGER (1950, RKO)
ROADBLOCK (1951, RKO)
THE WHIP HAND (1951, RKO)
SPLIT SECOND (1953, RKO)

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Posted April 29 2009 - 06:50 AM

Since I liked all of the other Dmytryk noirs, I hope "Cornered" will be in this collection (since it was rumoured to be in n°4, but got replaced at the last minute with "The Big Steal" - which was a fun road movie, but no noir).

Aside from that any Anthony Mann, Lorre-Greenstreet, Tourneur (Berlin express seems interesting), Fleischer, ... are welcome.

And "The Unsuspected" also seems interesting. Noir directed by Curtiz with Claude Rains

#12 of 34 OFFLINE   Jeffrey Nelson

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Posted April 29 2009 - 07:10 AM

I find it extremely lame that the landmark STRANGER ON THE THIRD FLOOR, often cited as the first true Film Noir, will be dumped in the Archive. If any film deserves to be part of one of the official noir boxes, it's this one. What the...?

I'm expecting my two most wanted noirs, THREE STRANGERS and THE MASK OF DIMITRIOS, to be dumped in the Archive as well. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

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Posted April 29 2009 - 11:21 AM

More than anything, I would love two Fritz Lang films included;

While the City Sleeps (superb cast)
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

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Posted April 29 2009 - 10:15 PM

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More than anything, I would love two Fritz Lang films included;

While the City Sleeps (superb cast)
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

These two were screened together recently here in Los Angeles during the film noir festival at the Egyptian Cinematheque.

Great films.

I hope they find their way to DVD.
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Posted April 30 2009 - 04:26 AM

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More than anything, I would love two Fritz Lang films included;

While the City Sleeps (superb cast)
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

I taped these from the bbc a year or so (I think). WtCS was quite good, but I couldn't help feeling a bit disappointed. I've probably been spoiled by "The big heat" and "Scarlet Street". Maybe I'll like it better on a rewatch.

BaRD had a very interesting premise, but I absolutely loathed
the twist at the end. It made no sense whatsoever...

I know Fritz lang had problems with the producer in BaRD, yet I don't really know what about exactly. But in my opinion, they've spoiled a very interesting premise.

#16 of 34 OFFLINE   Craig Beam

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Posted May 01 2009 - 04:11 PM

Cry Danger is a personal favorite, and has shown up on TCM with a pretty clean print. I'd be surprised if it's NOT included on the next Noir set.

#17 of 34 OFFLINE   Charles H

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Posted May 02 2009 - 02:06 AM

Sadly enough, LionsGate owns CRY DANGER, and they are totally indifferent to their classics catalogue. They are literally "sitting" on CAUGHT, THE STRANGER AFFAIR OF UNCLE HARRY, PLUNDER ROAD, THE DARK MIRROR, TRY AND GET ME, SPECTER OF THE ROSE, PITFALL and MOONRISE. I would particularly like to see CRY DANGER, PITFALL and MOONRISE released on dve, but I guess we have to file it under "it ain't gonna happen."
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#18 of 34 OFFLINE   Marcel H.

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Posted August 05 2009 - 05:14 AM

Nearly four months later and may be there's somebody out there who has some insider information regarding the status of this set?



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#19 of 34 OFFLINE   Craig Beam

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Posted August 09 2009 - 01:03 PM

I'm guessing there won't be a noir set this year.... again...  :(


#20 of 34 OFFLINE   MarcoBiscotti

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Posted August 13 2009 - 12:26 AM

Not unless it's on DVD-R...  /img/vbsmilies/htf/frown.gif



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