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A few words about...™ Pinocchio -- in Blu-ray

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#1 of 277 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted March 02 2009 - 11:24 AM

The miracle workers as Disney have taken an old nitrate SE negative, and turned it into an extraordinary entertainment fit for the 21st century.

With all of the original elements safely duplicated with redundancy, I have no problem with yet another new incarnation of majestic, classic Disney animation.

Compared to the last SD release, resolution is far beyond in every way, the last looking very much the dupe of a dupe that it was. Tens of thousands of bits of "Disney dust" have been eliminated along with whatever wear there was, and color and detail have reached a new high.

Because of the original printing process, what you can now project or view in your home theater will be far sharper and with higher resolution that one could see at the Bijou in well... February of 1940.

While a 70th Anniversary Edition sounds nice, it just isn't so. Pinocchio premiered in the U.S. on February 7, 1940.

Regardless of age, which Disney still does not discuss -- only a small mention of "2009 Blu-ray Release," this set, labeled "2-disc" which is actually a 3-disc, will charm and terrorize the youth of the 21st century anew.

On a personal note, as someone affected, I applaud Disney's intro against second hand smoke. The execs have sent the correct message. Nothing healthier for someone in utero than a nice smoke.

Pinocchio has been brilliantly re-worked and brought to Blu-ray. This is a disc perfect in every detail, inclusive of the original RKO Radio logo.

Once again, the technical staff and vendors used by Disney have performed in a yeoman-like fashion.

Pinocchio is Highly Recommended!

Happy 69th Pinocch!

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#2 of 277 OFFLINE   PaulDA

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Posted March 02 2009 - 12:02 PM

A title I've been highly anticipating and one that dovetails nicely with my recent visit to Rome (and the nice wooden, hand-carved Pinocchio dolls I brought back for my children). Looking forward to this one. Glad to know it comes highly recommended.
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#3 of 277 OFFLINE   Gary Miller

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Posted March 02 2009 - 12:49 PM

Thanks Robert. I just ordered a copy. I did come across this contrary opinion though, from someone named Jon Olivan, on the Amazon page:

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BEWARE PURISTS--this Digitally Restored version TAMPERED WITH ORIGINAL ARTWORK'S COLOR PALETTE!!!,

I just saw a special engagement of this latest 70th Anniversary version of Pinnochio at Disney's El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood in advance of the DVD re-release. Though I am happy to see the movie be given public exposure on a big theatrical screen, over the years I have seen many theatrical screenings of the movie on at least 12 different occasions including an original nitrate 3-strip Technicolor studio vault print in the early 1980's (before the studio dismantled its last nitrate screening room) and non-digital film restorations and was shocked to see that this latest restored version has digitally tampered with the film's original color palette for no justifiable reason.

Some of the chosen character hues are modern day, popular color hues, but look out of place in this early animated classic including certain pinks, reds and blues which are reused so often in identical shades that to classic animation buffs it becomes distractingly noticeable. For those animation buffs who know about Pinnochio, Walt intentionally muted colors in some of the scarier or sadder scenes. In the restored version, for example, when Pinnochio gets locked in Geppetto's "birdcage" the nighttime scene is bright and garish where it should intentionally be darker and muted.

The original movie had hand inked character outlines in colors that matched the interior ink colors, none of that is apparent in this restoration. The characters, though admittedly sharper and clearer, look color-wise like they were electronically tampered with, then reinserted in front of the original backgrounds.

At this point, the damage is done and obviously this restoration was "stylistic." But in any case, it might be compared with someone redoing the Mona Lisa with more modern color hues for the purpose of improving the artwork or making it more modern day acceptable. Either two things, perhaps no one at Disney was knowledgeable enough to notice what the outside restoration company was planning to do with the film in early test segments or maybe they figured that modern day DVD audiences would not know the difference or care, but this is the first "DIGITALLY RESTORED" classic Disney film that I have ever taken issue with. What a let down since it is my very favorite Disney film of all!!!

P.S. I was the founder of the former, long time Disney employees' Animated Film Club (later referred to as the Disney Film Club) which included Disneyland and Walt Disney Studio employees. It was founded in 1976 and continued on and off for many years afterward with visits from surviving original Disney animators, screenings of rare Disney footage and more.


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Posted March 02 2009 - 02:37 PM

^ An animation fan that hates a new release of a classic title? NO WAY!! Posted Image

Anyway, thanks for the review, RAH. I'm looking forward to it.

#5 of 277 OFFLINE   Edwin-S

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Posted March 02 2009 - 04:38 PM

Pinocchio always had a muted pastel look to the backgrounds. Monstro the Whale had some the most complex coloring that I have seen in a traditionally animated film. The shading on Monstro was amazing.

I would like to know if the film maintains the muted color palette or has the color been pumped to make it look like the flat, inferior, color stylings that modern 2D animated films took on?
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Posted March 02 2009 - 05:33 PM

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Posted March 02 2009 - 07:35 PM

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Pinocchio always had a muted pastel look to the backgrounds. Monstro the Whale had some the most complex coloring that I have seen in a traditionally animated film. The shading on Monstro was amazing.

I would like to know if the film maintains the muted color palette or has the color been pumped to make it look like the flat, inferior, color stylings that modern 2D animated films took on?

Most likely...

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#8 of 277 OFFLINE   Paul Arnette

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Posted March 03 2009 - 12:03 AM

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I would like to know if the film maintains the muted color palette...

If it doesn't, let William Friedkin know, and he will fix it! Posted Image
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#9 of 277 OFFLINE   Brad Vautrinot

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Posted March 03 2009 - 12:47 AM

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...I applaud Disney's intro against second hand smoke. The execs have sent the correct message....

I don't. It's bad enough I have to sit through FBI warnings, commentary disclaimers by the studio, trailers (I love trailers but make them a menu item and not required viewing before the movie), etc.

Now I have to sit through some PC banter about second-hand smoke? What's next from Disney - a surcharge for carbon footprints? An anti soda campaign? A trash the Twinkies and MacDonalds fat diatribe?

Disney has deleted and manipulated scenes in some of their classic animation movies in the interest of being PC. They are so paranoid about "offending" someone they have taken this to pathological extremes and as a result we'll likely never see Song Of The South or Fantasia or Dumbo or what have you in their original forms. Sad days.

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#10 of 277 OFFLINE   TravisR

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Posted March 03 2009 - 12:49 AM

^ Yeah, I'm mad at Disney for caring about people's health too.

Do I want to see something telling me that smoking (or second hand smoking) is bad? No but I'll live with it.

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Posted March 03 2009 - 12:56 AM

LOL if you think it is about them caring for anyone's health. Posted Image

It is more about them caring for thier bottom line.

If it means they didn't tamper with the scenes, then I guess it is better to get a lecture up front than to watch an edited feature.
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#12 of 277 OFFLINE   TravisR

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Posted March 03 2009 - 01:01 AM

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LOL if you think it is about them caring for anyone's health. Posted Image

It is more about them caring for thier bottom line.

If it means they didn't tamper with the scenes, then I guess it is better to get a lecture up front than to watch an edited feature.
I was being sarcastic and I realize that Disney doesn't care if I drop dead from smoking 5 packs a day if I buy their stuff before I croak. Like you said, if a PSA means that they aren't 'erasing' the smoking from the movie, I'm fine with it.

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Posted March 03 2009 - 02:26 AM

Anyone remember how the "50th Anniversary Edition" of Lady and The Tramp was actually its 51st anniversary? I was always wondering where that extra year went. Evidently, they banked it and gave it to Pinocchio.

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I'm looking forward to this. Thanks for the review, RAH.

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#14 of 277 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted March 03 2009 - 04:01 AM

Considering Walt himself died from smoking, the warning is a little too little too late, really.

But I prefer the warning over cutting out the smoking scenes.

#15 of 277 OFFLINE   Paul Arnette

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Posted March 03 2009 - 04:20 AM

Can you at least chapter skip the PC, ass covering?
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#16 of 277 OFFLINE   Carlo Medina

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Posted March 03 2009 - 06:13 AM

Don't forget that the target audience for this film are kids. I'm okay with the anti-smoking PSA (as someone whose father who used to chain smoke). If it means they leave the scenes in the movie, all the better.

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Posted March 03 2009 - 06:31 AM

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Posted March 03 2009 - 08:09 AM

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Don't forget that the target audience for this film are kids. I'm okay with the anti-smoking PSA (as someone whose father who used to chain smoke). If it means they leave the scenes in the movie, all the better.

Hey if this works, maybe they'll do a PSA for anti-racism and finally release Song of the South? Posted Image
Warner did it for Looney Toons--I don't see why not.
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Posted March 03 2009 - 08:41 AM

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William Friedkin's Pinocchio...
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#20 of 277 OFFLINE   Mike Frezon

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Posted March 03 2009 - 08:44 AM

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There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself.Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!


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