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#21 of 54 Sam Favate

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Posted November 20 2008 - 09:32 AM

Another cringe-worthy moment in DAD was the scene in which Bond is recalled to London, so we see a plane landing and hear The Clash's "London Calling." He's going back to London, his office is in London, and they're calling him... Get it? Come on!

The only other use of a pop song that was worse was "California Girls" in A View To A Kill, when Bond "surfs" to the tune. Oh boy that was bad.

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Posted November 20 2008 - 09:58 AM

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Another cringe-worthy moment in DAD was the scene in which Bond is recalled to London, so we see a plane landing and hear The Clash's "London Calling." He's going back to London, his office is in London, and they're calling him... Get it? Come on!

The only other use of a pop song that was worse was "California Girls" in A View To A Kill, when Bond "surfs" to the tune. Oh boy that was bad.

Hmm. I actually liked the use of that song. I didn't interpret it quite the way you did though. And that song was being played when Graves skydived out of the plane and landed in front of Buckingham Palace (I think).
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Posted November 20 2008 - 10:01 AM

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I got into the books in high school and loved them. They are miles better than the movies that take the name from them. There are a few that parallel, at least in the overall premise of, the book, but most just veer totally away from the book plot why did they even bother to use the name?

I agree. Live and Let Die and Moonraker are my favorite Fleming books and they're very different from the filmed version. Very different.

It's cool that you're showing your son ALL of the Bond flicks, though. I'm sure his favorites will change as he gets older. I once considered Moonraker to be the best movie in the series as well. Posted Image
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Posted November 20 2008 - 10:03 AM

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Hmm. I actually liked the use of that song. I didn't interpret it quite the way you did though. And that song was being played when Graves skydived out of the plane and landed in front of Buckingham Palace (I think).

And I gotta agree with Edwin here. It was played against Graves' skydiving bit and I thought it was very fitting.

I dug it, at least.
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#25 of 54 Brent M

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Posted November 20 2008 - 10:37 AM

Even though it's nowhere close to the greatness of Casino Royale, I still liked Die Another Day and thought it was Brosnan's second best Bond film after GoldenEye(I hated The World is Not Enough and didn't care much for Tomorrow Never Dies either). The only thing that really bothered me about this film was the horrible CGI, but that's only really jarring in a couple of scenes so I can look past it. I still like the Aston Martin/Jaguar chase on ice and Halle Berry coming out of the water is reason enough to own this flick. Posted Image
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#26 of 54 Peter Raber

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Posted November 20 2008 - 12:57 PM

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I agree. Live and Let Die and Moonraker are my favorite Fleming books and they're very different from the filmed version. Very different.

It's cool that you're showing your son ALL of the Bond flicks, though. I'm sure his favorites will change as he gets older. I once considered Moonraker to be the best movie in the series as well. Posted Image

Oh yes. Have to expose him to all of them, including what i think are the bad ones, which obviously he doesn't so it's even better that he views them all so he can judge for himself.

Live and Let Die is a great book, and I guess that's one of the reasons why I like For Your Eyes Only since that whole climactic scene with Bond and the girl tied to the boat and being dragged over the coral is straight from the book. If only they just made the books into the movies, how much better they would all be.

And yes OHMSS is most like the book, very very similar and a lot of people find that to be their favorite James Bond movie. I know it's right up there as one of mine. That Fleming guy knew a thing or two about how to write a good yarn.

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Posted November 20 2008 - 02:10 PM

Great Bonds:

FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
GOLDFINGER
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
CASINO ROYALE

Good Bonds:


THUNDERBALL
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
GOLDENEYE
THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
QUANTUM OF SOLACE


AVERAGE BONDS:

THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
DR NO
OCTOPUSSY
TOMORROW NEVER DIES
LIVE AND LET DIE
LICENCE TO KILL

BAD BONDS:

YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
A VIEW TO A KILL

PUTRID BONDS:

MOONRAKER
DIE ANOTHER DAY

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Posted November 20 2008 - 03:14 PM

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PUTRID BONDS:
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DIE ANOTHER DAY

I guess I didn't make myself clear earlier...

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Posted November 20 2008 - 04:29 PM

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Good Bonds:


THUNDERBALL
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
GOLDENEYE
THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
QUANTUM OF SOLACE


Sorry, but there's absolutely no way you can classify The World is Not Enough as a "good Bond". That movie was horrific.
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Posted November 20 2008 - 11:21 PM

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Trust me, I love Halle! Just wish the film could have been better.

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Posted November 20 2008 - 11:43 PM

No disrespect to Halle Berry as an actress, but she was awful in the movie. Her character had a cutesy name ("Jinx") and was full of phony attitude. Behind the scenes must have been like that episode of the Simpsons when they decide to spice up Itchy and Scratchy by introducing Poochie, a dog with attitude. She joins a long list of bad stunt casting in Bond movies, including Denise Richards, Grace Jones, Tayna Roberts, and so on.

That the producers were even considering spinning her character off into another series of movies is cause enough for concern about their judgment.

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Posted November 21 2008 - 12:26 AM

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AVERAGE BONDS:

THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
DR NO
OCTOPUSSY
TOMORROW NEVER DIES
LIVE AND LET DIE
LICENCE TO KILL

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That the producers were even considering spinning her character off into another series of movies is cause enough for concern about their judgment.

Ah, yes, that would have been horrible but we have to remember that it was that project that eventually snowballed into the genesis of Casino Royale.

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Posted November 21 2008 - 04:15 AM

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Ah, yes, that would have been horrible but we have to remember that it was that project that eventually snowballed into the genesis of Casino Royale.

Somehow, in between 2002 and 2005 (when Daniel Craig was hired), they came to their senses.

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Posted November 21 2008 - 06:05 AM

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Somehow, in between 2002 and 2005 (when Daniel Craig was hired), they came to their senses.

When Die Another Day came out, it was at the time the top grossing Bond ever, so they certainly didn't switch the kind of movies they were making because of any financial concerns or flops. I think them coming to their senses had everything to do with the rights to Casino Royale finally being available to them, as they had wanted to make that pretty much forever.

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Posted November 21 2008 - 09:06 AM

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Ah, yes, that would have been horrible but we have to remember that it was that project that eventually snowballed into the genesis of Casino Royale.

"Die Another Day" essentially became Bond's equivalent of "Assignment: Earth"!

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Posted November 21 2008 - 09:57 AM

You're all insane, except for the ones who agree with me.

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Posted November 21 2008 - 10:43 AM

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Sorry, but there's absolutely no way you can classify The World is Not Enough as a "good Bond". That movie was horrific.


TWINE gets it for me cause the storyline is fairly believable (even if the action isn't). I loved the idea of the woman as the villian and I thought Sophie great in the role (hot too!! Beats Eva Green so far as French actresses).

Now I will concede the following:

Denise Richards is beyond horrible!
Outside the opening boat chase the action was dull.
Reinard was a weak character.

#38 of 54 David Coleman

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Posted November 21 2008 - 10:45 AM

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Honestly, i've never understood the appeal of THE SPY WHO LOVES ME? To me it's like MOONRAKER under water. Outside Hamlish's title song I thought the score sucked! Now as for Barbara Bach, she has to be in the top 3 of Bond babes!!!

#39 of 54 Peter Raber

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Posted November 21 2008 - 11:22 AM

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Honestly, i've never understood the appeal of THE SPY WHO LOVES ME? To me it's like MOONRAKER under water. Outside Hamlish's title song I thought the score sucked! Now as for Barbara Bach, she has to be in the top 3 of Bond babes!!!

That's because both screenplays were written by Christopher Bond. The only two he did I believe, but since TSWLM came before Moonraker I can appreciate that a little bit more than Moonraker. It is the EXACT same plot in both movies, same lame bad guy, same ridiculous climactic battle scene and (surprise) Jaws is in both movies as well, but where TSWLM had some redeeming qualities in there Moonraker had absolutely none.

DAD is bad, Halle Berre not withstanding, but as bad as that is, Moonraker makes DAD look like Shakespeare. I could go on and on for forever about how bad Moonraker is, but I think most poeple already know.

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Posted November 21 2008 - 11:41 AM

The redeeming values of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME are:

Barbara Bach
The Ski Jump
Naomi the heliocopter pilot
The Lotus (but there's a good and bad to that)
Jaws


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