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#41 of 133 OFFLINE   John Morgan

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Posted April 02 2010 - 05:21 AM

I agree. It looked wonderful. Maybe it was a decision that the station made, but the Intermission music was missing as was the recently found radio broadcasts. I hear it is or was on its way to Blu Ray from a friend at Fox, so in one way, I hope so, in another way, I hope they (Robert Harris) do a proper restoration for the roadshow cut. 
And I wonder if this Hi Def version was from the 65mm or 35mm masters. Another friend of mine saw Hi Def clips of this a few years ago at some festival and it was said to be from the 65mm elements.

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I just watched this on MGMHD this evening , and it looks stunning!!!! and the proper colors are now showing on the title sequence,along with the Overture and Exit Music! Unfortunately, it is the 161 minute version, just with the ladder mentioned elements added to it. Still, it is much better then the current DVD.


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Posted April 08 2010 - 05:10 PM



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Originally Posted by mike-- /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I just watched this on MGMHD this evening , and it looks stunning!!!! and the proper colors are now showing on the title sequence,along with the Overture and Exit Music! Unfortunately, it is the 161 minute version, just with the ladder mentioned elements added to it. Still, it is much better then the current DVD.
 
I'm glad to hear that they finally got the colors correct.  MGM/UA DVDs has a BAD track record as far as I'm concerned.  Their DVD release of "The Hallelujah Trail" looked as though it was first dragged through the back lot at Culver City.  I've seen junk prints look better.  On top of that, it was letterboxed and not anamorphic.

It will be interesting to see the restoration of "The Alamo" in Blu-ray.  I thought that picture was lost forever.  I recall a friend of mine who worked for Pathe Labs in New Jersey in the mid sixties telling me that the (in his words) "the negatives of the Alamo were toast", after they had a big fire there.  Apparently, enough "untoasted" was found to restore it.
 

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Posted April 11 2010 - 08:09 PM

I couldn't resist the urge to check in here, watched the film tonight on MGM HD and all I can say is WOW, it looks as good as the best transfers I have seen of any classics. Beautiful job! What a month, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, Fiddler on the Roof and It's a Mad World all restored and shown on sat.tv. Chitty looks awesome as do the other 2. Problem with Chitty was it was 2:35:1 for the titles and then 1:85:1 for the rest (yeah, that's Cinemax). But the other 2, WOW!  Now where are the Blu-rays with the 1080p and lossless audio?

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Posted April 13 2010 - 04:38 AM

DVD vs. MGM HD broadcast - http://www.cineramah...ammmmwhddvd.htm . The DVD is cropped on all four sides.


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#45 of 133 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted April 15 2010 - 10:21 AM

I believe everyone is waiting until the outcome of the MGM situation.
 

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Posted April 16 2010 - 05:22 AM

That does not surprise me at all
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Posted April 18 2010 - 10:11 AM

Well the MGM HD version looks fabulous.
Has anyone figured out what version this is?
It's in a 3 hr slot.
The beginning was about 3 minutes of the opening song on a black screen then the Main titles.

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Posted April 18 2010 - 12:47 PM

The DVD was 161 minutes and I don't think it had overture music so maybe the MGM HD version is 164 minutes?

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Posted April 28 2010 - 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Harris /forum/thread/275427/it-s-a-mad-mad-mad-mad-world/30#post_3681409 I believe everyone is waiting until the outcome of the MGM situation.  
Ok but were did this MGM HD version come from? Was it just the dvd remastered or is it from actual "film" .
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Posted April 29 2010 - 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by TonyD /img/forum/go_quote.gif



Ok but were did this MGM HD version come from?
Was it just the dvd remastered or is it from actual "film" .

 
I think someone mentioned that the "theatrical version" had been "restored" by MGM, whatever that means.  But it obviously came from film elements from somewhere.  I think it's disgraceful that pictures as recent as the 1960s even need to be restored by having to "hunt down" the original elements.  If they can't maintain their "property", they should lose the copyright.  These aren't junk "B" pictures we're talking about, these are major classics.

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Posted April 30 2010 - 02:08 PM

 Ok but were did this MGM HD version come from?
Was it just the dvd remastered or is it from actual "film" .


I can't tell you anything about this master, except, of course it came from film. HD transfers are not remastered from DVD(SD) masters. The work-que now is to create the HD master and downconvert the SD(PAL and NTSC) from that...


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Posted May 02 2010 - 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Techman707 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I think someone mentioned that the "theatrical version" had been "restored" by MGM, whatever that means.  But it obviously came from film elements from somewhere.  I think it's disgraceful that pictures as recent as the 1960s even need to be restored by having to "hunt down" the original elements.  If they can't maintain their "property", they should lose the copyright.  These aren't junk "B" pictures we're talking about, these are major classics.
 
The theatrical version cannot be restored as it needs very little true restorative work.  An entity calling it "restored" would be incorrect.
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Posted May 02 2010 - 11:12 AM



Originally Posted by Robert Harris /forum/thread/275427/it-s-a-mad-mad-mad-mad-world/30#post_3686823


The theatrical version cannot be restored as it needs very little true restorative work.  An entity calling it "restored" would be incorrect.
RAH
 

If the theatrical version does not need any restoration then, only the extra 30-35 minutes in the original roadshow version would need to be restored right? If no one wants to spend the dollars to restore the 30+ minutes then, why don't they do as Fox did with South Pacific? Add the extra minutes without the restoration. Are those 30+ minutes in a lot worse shape than the extra 15 minutes of South Pacific? Add the 15 or so minutes for the intermission radio calls and you will have about the full 210 minute original roadshow.

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Posted May 03 2010 - 11:00 AM

Jeez did that extremely long post actually get on here and then get deleted?

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Posted May 05 2010 - 09:36 AM

I would give up a decade full of Avatars to simply see IAMMMMW done right on Blu, with all versions available through seamless branching and, at a minimum, all previous home 'extras' packed in.  Is that too much to ask?


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Posted May 11 2010 - 06:28 AM

I agree 100%.   At least there is still hope

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Posted May 12 2010 - 06:02 AM

me too.... I FIND THE LONG POST PREVIOUSLY MOST REFRESHING AND A GOOD UPDATE. LETS KEEP THE PRESSURE ON A RESTORATION ,AWAITING OF COURSE THE FATE OF MGM....

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Posted May 13 2010 - 06:17 AM

I also watched the MGMHD version and thought it was stunning!! So why can't that be transfered to a Blu-ray??

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Posted June 30 2010 - 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Harris /forum/thread/275427/it-s-a-mad-mad-mad-mad-world/30#post_3686823 The theatrical version cannot be restored as it needs very little true restorative work.  An entity calling it "restored" would be incorrect. RAH  
I finally got to see the MGM-HD version of IAMMMMW that was broadcast on April 1st.  That is from THE SAME HD master that the SD DVDs were originally made from, it's NOT a new master.  While most of the transfer looks okay, for the most part, the titles STILL look like crap AND STILL HAVE THE WRONG COLORS. While I realize if you don't know what the proper color is you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, the wrong end title color alone changes the whole "feel" of the picture for me.  The disolve from the hospital ward, which should be to a full light YELLOW screen (with a white "the end" in the middle) is now muddy orange/reddish brown.    And while I don't know what they made that HD master from, I'm virtually certain it wasn't made from ANYTHING CLOSE to any 65mm elements.   You are CERTAINLY RIGHT....calling it "restored" would be incorrect....to say the least.  But they DO need to restore, at least, the main title, intermission snipe and end screen to reflect the proper colors.  If they need a reference, I'd be glad to supply it.     





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