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#1 of 12 OFFLINE   Sam Posten

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Posted June 14 2008 - 10:05 AM

Not officially anyway.

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#2 of 12 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted June 14 2008 - 08:55 PM

Not surprised.

This new iPhone is a real "bust" to those of us who
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#3 of 12 OFFLINE   ErichH

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Posted June 15 2008 - 01:11 AM

No Tethering? No talking NAV?
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#4 of 12 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted June 15 2008 - 05:22 AM

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No Tethering? No talking NAV?
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Both are just software issues technically speaking, so they could be enabled at any point.

I understand why AT&T wouldn't want tethering -- although, why not simply have a pricier "tethering permitted" plan? But why no talking NAV? First of all I read that Tom Tom has software in the works, and secondly why have such a restriction -- unlike the tethering, what does Apple or AT&T care if Garmin goes out of business?

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#5 of 12 OFFLINE   Jonathan

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Posted June 15 2008 - 06:43 AM

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Both are just software issues technically speaking, so they could be enabled at any point.

I understand why AT&T wouldn't want tethering -- although, why not simply have a pricier "tethering permitted" plan? But why no talking NAV? First of all I read that Tom Tom has software in the works, and secondly why have such a restriction -- unlike the tethering, what does Apple or AT&T care if Garmin goes out of business?

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AT&T does offer tethering with their 3g phones. It's $60 a month for 3g service and tethering instead of $30 just for 3g service on the phone.
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#6 of 12 OFFLINE   Blu

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Posted June 15 2008 - 07:12 AM

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Not surprised.

This new iPhone is a real "bust" to those of us who
already own one.

This is exactly right. I'm holding out for more storage. That and we don't have a 3G network in town so it just isn't usable to its full potential right now.

#7 of 12 OFFLINE   Kyle McKnight

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Posted June 15 2008 - 02:23 PM

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Both are just software issues technically speaking...

So is MMS which is lacking from the first iPhone, and from the 3G version. It's now available on the most basic cell phones bust still not on the iPhone. Don't expect "software issues" that you might expect on a phone to be added when something that everyone WOULD expect still hasn't been added.
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Posted June 16 2008 - 01:57 AM

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unlike the tethering, what does Apple or AT&T care if Garmin goes out of business?

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Indeed, or an Apple App with voice nav for 49.00 bucks on day 1. Time for Apple to make money on software for the iPhone. Why would they let every one else have all the fun. Hold back a much needed feature and break out a well protected carrot.

The GPS demo was interesting for voyeurs at best. OK, so perhaps I might want to watch my UPS guy so I can go to the store and not miss him. We'll see if that's free
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#9 of 12 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted June 16 2008 - 02:48 AM

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So is MMS which is lacking from the first iPhone, and from the 3G version. It's now available on the most basic cell phones bust still not on the iPhone. Don't expect "software issues" that you might expect on a phone to be added when something that everyone WOULD expect still hasn't been added.
Oh I agree -- when I say "software issue" I mean it can be turned on with a simple firmware change. But if Apple/AT&T don't want feature X, it is above all a political/ideological/etc. issue.
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#10 of 12 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted June 16 2008 - 02:59 AM

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Indeed, or an Apple App with voice nav for 49.00 bucks on day 1. Time for Apple to make money on software for the iPhone. Why would they let every one else have all the fun. Hold back a much needed feature and break out a well protected carrot.
Where is the info that Apple is blocking Voice Nav coming from though -- are they somehow obstructing Tom Tom's development efforts or...?
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#11 of 12 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted June 16 2008 - 07:25 AM

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Where is the info that Apple is blocking Voice Nav coming from though -- are they somehow obstructing Tom Tom's development efforts or...?
To answer my own question, all of this wild speculation about GPS Nav seems to be coming from a French language interview (badly machine translated) with Tom Tom's Yann Lafargue. Other than what appears to be completely baseless speculation on his part there is no indication that Apple would somehow block such an app. He mentions the possibility of Apple releasing their own App, possibly in collaboration with an American company (Garmin?), and says Apple prefers collaborating with American companies. Also he muses about Apple fearing possible liability.

What seems certain though, is that 1) Tom Tom has indeed developed iPhone software but is not ready to release it; 2) M. Lafargue hasn't talked to Apple and really knows nothing, but that isn't stopping him from rambling on to macgeneration.com

For anyone who wants to make up their own mind, here is the relevant paragraph before any obfuscation (otherwise known as google translation):
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Q: Est-ce qu'une commercialisation est prévue et quand ?

YL : Sur ce point, c'est encore trop tôt pour s'avancer. Ce qui est sûr c'est qu'on a une solution dont les essais se sont révélés concluants. Il s'agit maintenant de voir dans quelle mesure on peut la lancer. Il ne faudrait pas par exemple qu'on finalise un produit pour se voir au bout du compte interdire l'accès à l'App Store parce qu'Apple aurait décidé de proposer son propre logiciel ou de mettre en avant celui d'un de leurs partenaires.

De manière générale, Apple a jusqu'à présent plutôt travaillé avec des Américains que des Européens, ce qui incite à la prudence. Il y a donc tout un ensemble de choses à valider avant de parler d'une commercialisation.

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#12 of 12 OFFLINE   ErichH

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Posted June 16 2008 - 09:06 AM

Ted, I agree. Speculation is all we have.
As gate keepers to the store, Apple can let a number of companies fight for position on this one. They can also buy a company and brand it.
We'll see soon enough.

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