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The Great March HTF Historical Drama/Epic Challenge


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#1 of 164 OFFLINE   JohnRice

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Posted February 16 2008 - 03:26 PM

The challenge is now officially open!!


We're on the downswing of February and I figured it was time to send out the warning for the March Historical Drama/Epic Challenge.

The idea is similar to other challenges. Watch at least 13 qualifying films, preferably with at least 7 first time viewings, then come here and post your opinions/ratings.


There are two qualifiers...

1) The "Historical Drama" Qualification - Films which take place in an accurate historical setting, at least 50 years prior to the date the film was produced. These do not have to be actual, historical stories. Just set in a realistic time period.

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2) The "Epic" Qualification - Films with a running time of at least 160 minutes.


Examples...

The Magnificent Ambersons - NO, since the primary time period is only 20+ years prior to the production of the film.

Shakespeare in Love - Yes

Titus - NO, under the Historical qualification (not realistic time period) but YES under the Epic qualification.

A Room with a View - Yes.

LOTR movies - Oh, if you have to (under the Epic qualification), but the idea is to branch out.


In the spirit of the Historical Drama concept, I'd like to encourage participants to make a particular effort to seek out literary adaptations and stretch beyond their ordinary viewing habits. Everyone on earth has seen Lawrence of Arabia, so instead, venture into Doctor Zhivago or Ryan's Daughter. Pick a certain author and have a mini festival. You get the idea.


The challenge will run the month of March. Admission is limited (not really), so sign up early, subscribe to this thread and visit often.



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My List - First time viewings in blue. Ratings out of
Perceptions are interesting. I read over and over how this film still glorifies James, though less than previous ones, and what a sleazy scumbag Ford is. To me, James comes across as the charismatic, repugnant individual he most likely was, and the type of person I have learned to avoid like the plague. Little more than a bullying, intimidating punk who not only believes he is entitled to commit the crimes he does, but that others should admire him for them. Ford is just someone who gets pushed around alot and has delusions of grandeur.

I admire the deliberate nature of this film, but in the end I think it is just too long. It really doesn't need almost 160 minutes to get the story and mood across. I also tend to think people take the full film title too literally. I sense more than a slight irony to it.

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#2 of 164 OFFLINE   Holadem

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Posted February 16 2008 - 03:50 PM

Eh. Why not. Finally an interesting month-long challenge...

In like Flynn. Been looking to checkout that notoriously lengthy War and Peace adaptation for a while now.

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#3 of 164 OFFLINE   Greg Layton

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Posted February 16 2008 - 03:53 PM

I'm in. Hopefully we can have a better showing than January when we only made it through 8 Film Noirs.

Here's our list:

03/06/08 - Rio Bravo (1959) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
03/07/08 - The Bridge over the River Kwai (1957) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
03/11/08 - The Wild Bunch (1969) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
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#4 of 164 OFFLINE   SteveGon

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Posted February 17 2008 - 11:14 AM

WTF? We can't watch LOTR? Screw it, I'm O-U-T!!! Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

...just kidding. Already got some movies lined up. Posted Image


My list:

Aguirre, The Wrath of God ****
Angels and Insects ***Posted Image
The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford ***
Atonement ***
Berlin Alexanderplatz ***Posted Image
1860 ***
Gettysburg ***Posted Image
Hiroshima ***
The Lady and the Duke ***
Love in the Time of Cholera ***
Mansfield Park ***
Maria Marten ***
The Naked Prey ***Posted Image
The Other Conquest ***
Regeneration ***
Rome Against Rome **
The Round-Up ***Posted Image
Sharpe's Rifles ***
Troy ***

Bolded titles are first viewings.

Tally: 19

#5 of 164 OFFLINE   Russell G

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Posted February 21 2008 - 10:18 AM

I have no idea what to watch, but I'll give it a shot. CAn I count the endless stream of westerns in the "Ford At Fox" set?

Just kidding. Posted Image This well be my placeholder.

FINAL TALLY, FIRST TIMERS IN BLUE

01 - 03/01 - WEE WILLIE WINKLE 3.5/5
02 - 03/02 - YOUNG MR. LINCOLN 4/5
03 - 03/09 -
AMERICAN GANGSTER 3.5/5
04 - 03/21 - MY DARLING CLEMINTINE 4.5/5
05 - 03/21 - THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD 4.5/5


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Posted February 21 2008 - 11:54 AM

I’m not sure if I’ll be able to watch seven new ones (depends on TCM & IFC) schedules), but I’m in otherwise.
¡Time is not my master!

#7 of 164 OFFLINE   JohnRice

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Posted February 21 2008 - 01:35 PM

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I’m not sure if I’ll be able to watch seven new ones (depends on TCM & IFC) schedules), but I’m in otherwise.
Normally it would be difficult for me as well, but thanks to some recent releases (Assassination of Jesse James; Lust, Caution; Becoming Jane; American Gangster extended; Elizabeth, The Golden Years) I might be able to round up seven new viewings.

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Posted February 21 2008 - 04:21 PM

I'll also have difficulty coming up with 7 new ones. Damn, I watched American Gangster already. I didn't think it qualified but of course it does under the epic qualification. I have quite a few in my collection that I can watch. Unfortunately they've all been seen before.

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Posted February 22 2008 - 03:11 AM

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I’m not sure if I’ll be able to watch seven new ones (depends on TCM & IFC) schedules), but I’m in otherwise.

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Posted February 22 2008 - 06:53 AM

First Time Viewings In BOLD
March 3
1. Doctor Zhivago (1965) (4.5/5)
2. Yojimbo (1961) (5/5)
March 8
3. The Sign of the Cross (1932) (3.5/5)
4. The Crusades (1935) (3/5)
March 16
5. Sanjuro (1962) (5/5)
6. A Fistfull Of Dollars (1964) (4/5)
March 17
7. For a Few Dollars More (1965) 4.5/5
March 22
8. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) (5/5)
March 23
9. The Great Escape (1963) (5/5)
March 27
10. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) (5/5)
March 29
11. Duck, You Sucker (1971) (4.5/5)
March 30
12. Becket (1964) (5/5)
March 31
13. The Lion In Winter (1968) (5/5)

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Posted February 22 2008 - 10:53 AM

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And still enjoying life.

Thanks Holadem
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#12 of 164 OFFLINE   JohnRice

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Posted February 22 2008 - 11:11 AM

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Whoa! No kidding. I had no idea. No posts before yesterday for over a year. I'm glad you came back solely to participate in my challenge.

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#13 of 164 OFFLINE   JohnRice

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Posted February 26 2008 - 12:51 PM

March is almost here. Also, there have been quite a few Historical Dramas released in recent weeks. Silk is one this week, which looks interesting.

I plan on doing a few themed mini-marathons, including Jane Austen, Thomas Hardy and possibly to celebrate my finally getting the Anthology, Sergio Leone.

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Posted February 26 2008 - 02:51 PM

Technically, just watching some of the things I already have recorded on TiVo should get me more than halfway there.

Cleopatra (1963) (recording was pan and scan - didn't watch it)
Garden of Evil (1954) (period + 1st time viewing)
The Bravados (1958) (period + 1st time viewing)
The New World (2005) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
The Painted Veil (2006) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
3:10 to Yuma (1957) (period + 1st time viewing)
The Wild Bunch (1969) (period)
Curse of the Golden Flower (2006) (period + 1st time viewing)

But it feels like cheating to have 4 westerns on that list. I won't even try to ask if I can finally watch the made for TV mini-series Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee and Comanche Moon and have them count. Too bad I watched Gods and Generals last month (for multiple reasons). It would have been worth triple for me.

(Post Edited to add the following information)

Scanning ahead for the month I've also scheduled these qualifying films to record:

Patton (just in case I need one more film to clear the qualifying number, plus I want to see the HD version)
Exodus (1960)
Ben Hur (1959) (I'm hesitant to watch this off of the TCM broadcast and I'll probably wait to see it in HD sometime)
The Wind and the Lion (1975)
Major Dundee (1965)
Bandidas (2006)
Ask The Dust (2006)
The Great Race (1965)
Restoration (1995)

And I scheduled The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies (1963) even though it doesn't qualify for this challenge. It has to be considered an epic just based upon the time it takes to type the title.

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Posted February 26 2008 - 03:13 PM

Five-star rating; first viewings in BOLD.
    [*]The Portrait of a Lady (1996) Posted ImagePosted Image[*]The Good, the Bad & the Ugly (1966) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Nicholas Nickleby (2002) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]The Longest Day (1962) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Giant (1956) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Being Julia (2004) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]U-571 (2000) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Glory (2000) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]The Lion in Winter (1968) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Cobra Verde (1988) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Nosferatu: Phantom der Nacht (1979) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image[*]Ginger Snaps Back: The Beginning (2004) Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

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Posted February 27 2008 - 01:00 AM

Can't deal with Netflix right now (long story).

Quo Vadis (DVRed from TCM -- is there a DVD yet?) will be first. I am pretty excited about this, it's a childhood fav that I've not seen in 20 years, I hope it holds up.

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Posted February 29 2008 - 11:20 AM

Since it's Friday, and today (February 29) doesn't actually exist and we are all currently in the Twilight Zone, I am declaring this challenge officially open.

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Posted March 01 2008 - 12:21 AM

Historical Drama/Epic Challenge - 41 watched

1st. time viewings in bold; reviews out of 5 stars

3/1 The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/1 Mountains of the Moon (1990) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/2 Green Dolphin Street (1947) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/3 Pride and Prejudice (2005) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/3 Becoming Jane (2007) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/4 Aviator (2004) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/5 Captain Kidd (1945) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/5 Goya's Ghosts (2006) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/6 Beowulf & Grendel (2005) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/6 Emma (1996) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/7 Finding Neverland (2004) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/7 The Right Stuff (2004) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/8 A Man For All Seasons (1965) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/8 Khartoum (1966) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/9 Tea with Mussolini (1999) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/9 Vanity Fair ( 2004) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/10 The Assassination of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/10 The Prestige (2006) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/10 The Romance of Rosy Ridge (1947) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/11 Immortal Beloved (1994) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/12 The Colossus of Rhodes (1961) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/14 Amistad (1997) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/14 Marie Antoinette ( 1938) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/15 Braveheart (1995) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/16 Rio Grande (1950) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/16 Man in the Iron Mask (1998) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/16 The Pony Soldier (1952) Posted Image Posted Image
3/17 Vera Drake (2004) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/18 The Last Legion (2007) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/18 Stage Beauty (2004) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/19 Silk (2007) Posted Image Posted Image
3/19 Secret Garden (1993) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/20 Comancheros (1961) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/20 Kingdom of Heaven (2005) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/21 Quest for Fire (1981) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/23 Gallipoli (1981) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/27 Damn the Defiant (1962) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/28 Atonement (2007) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/28 The Saddest Music in the World (2003) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/30 Love at the Time of Cholera (2007) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
3/31 The Strange Woman (1946) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

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Posted March 01 2008 - 12:46 AM

The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

An interesting movie that looks at the beginning of the end of a once great empire. This is a very slow paced movie at times but does take its time to build its characters. James Mason, Alec Guiness and especially Christopher Plummer are all excellent here. I thought Plummer was alot better in this role than Phoenix in Gladiator. He reminded me alot of Peter Ustinov's performance as Nero, being just slightly less deliciously evil. Stephen Boyd was fine in Ben Hur but here he is bland and boring. Russell Crowe in a similar role in Gladiator made that movie. Thankfully Boyd was surrounded by much better actors. Omar Sharif's role was nothing more than a cameo and this fine actor's talents were wasted here. This movie bears alot of similarity to Gladiator which I'm sure borrowed heavily here.
The sets were gorgeous and the battle scenes outstanding. It's amazing what can be accomplished without CGI. The music was cloying at times and in a couple of instances didn't seem to fit the scene. Overall, it was a satisfying movie if overlong at times.

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Posted March 01 2008 - 01:42 AM

Amazing Grace - Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

Story behind William Wilberforce, the end of slavery in England (though certainly not British slave labor elsewhere) the genesis of the Psalm used as the words for the famous song and so on. Not nearly as good a film as it should have been since it glosses over a lot of topics and the narrative is inconsistent, but excellent cast. The best moment in the film is actually just prior to the closing credits as the title song is performed in all its glory. Probably worth mentioning that the actual music typically associated with Amazing Grace pre-dates the words by several centuries and is a traditional tune of Irish or Scottish origin.

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