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Can I replace my Meridian 568 & get QUALITY sound?(CAUTION: GRAPHICS-HEAVY;SLOW OPEN)


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#1 of 12 OFFLINE   MPSAN

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Posted January 25 2008 - 05:01 AM

I have a Meridian 568 and I must say that the sound of everything I run thru it sounds great. However, it only has DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1 along with ProLogic II. Movies and CD sound the best I have ever heard from my system, and this Meridian replaced a Proceed AVP. Anyway, now that I have a new BD30K Blu-Ray player with all of the new lossless audio being bitstreamed, I wonder if I should think about replacing it?

So far I have seen people saying the new Integra DTC-9.8 will do it all. OK, but for 30% of the cost of my "old" Meridian, will it sound as good...especially on 2 ch Stereo CD's?

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#2 of 12 OFFLINE   Joe Cole

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Posted February 02 2008 - 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MPSAN
I have a Meridian 568 and I must say that the sound of everything I run thru it sounds great. However, it only has DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1 along with ProLogic II. Movies and CD sound the best I have ever heard from my system, and this Meridian replaced a Proceed AVP. Anyway, now that I have a new BD30K Blu-Ray player with all of the new lossless audio being bitstreamed, I wonder if I should think about replacing it?

So far I have seen people saying the new Integra DTC-9.8 will do it all. OK, but for 30% of the cost of my "old" Meridian, will it sound as good...especially on 2 ch Stereo CD's?

TIA


Dave,

As an owner of a Krell HTS 7.1 I have the same question. My Krell sounds great for SACDs and CDs and DVDs but is now out of date and no longer made by Krell. Their new pre/pro has all of the new audio formats but costs 18 THOUSAND dollars. Krell has also stopped selling the 7.1 so they are not going to update the model. Posted Image

So far the Integra DTC 9.8 seems to be the only pre/pro that is under 10K. I am sure that will change but when? I think there is a way to pass the analog audio through so I could use my unit for music but so far I do not really understand how that would work with the Integra unit.
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#3 of 12 OFFLINE   Asahikasei

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Posted February 03 2008 - 04:17 AM

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So far I have seen people saying the new Integra DTC-9.8 will do it all. OK, but for 30% of the cost of my "old" Meridian, will it sound as good...especially on 2 ch Stereo CD's?

For movies it will sound 100% the same, have a look at some of my other threads, high end processors are no different then receivers.

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Posted February 03 2008 - 07:31 AM

Thank you both. Our first house was down from where Krell was "born". Boy have times changed! I am surprised a lot buy the hype of Meridian, or at least the sales people. I was told that new formats could just be added in firmware. I guess that was OK with Pro Logic II. I must admit, now, that I listen to very little 2 ch stuff anymore.

I also hear rhat Denon and others will come out with pre/pro's soon...at far less than the 10K pricepoint, but the 9.8 is very much less than that.

Thank you both again,

Dave...
and I never saw a place to get my name out of the post. How is that done as I do not see that option in user CP.
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#5 of 12 OFFLINE   MPSAN

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Posted February 03 2008 - 08:39 AM

I sent a reply and it does not show so I will try again. Thank you both. I am surprised at how soon my Meridian is out of date. I must admit to not listening to much 2 ch any more. I suppose that the Integra 9.8 would not be a bad option...especially for the price. I hear that several other pre/pro's will be out soon from Denon, etc, but not at the Integra price point!

Anyway, I used to live where Krell was "born"...boy have times changed! I am not sure I would spend as much on a pre/pro any more. There is just no support from anyone any more!

P.S. I just noticed my name under the MPSAN...how do I get rid of that? I do not see a place in the UserCP?
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#6 of 12 OFFLINE   Dave Moritz

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Posted February 03 2008 - 09:43 AM

Hey Dave,

If your DM30K decodes all the lossless audio you can allways send it to your Meridian via analog multi channel input, as long as your 568 has analog inputs. That is if you are really happy with it and are not ready to move up to something more up to date?

Now I would imagine that the Integra 9.8 pre/pro would be a very good choice. And as long as you run really good amplifiers you may not notice a difference or you may like it more than your current 568? I use to own a McIntosh MX-130 and then I got married and the wife would not agree to let me spend the $2k to upgrade it to Dolby Digital and DTS. So I got rid of it and ended up with the Yamaha RX-V995 that I have now. I wish I still had the MX-130 so be carefull before you get rid of the 568? I would put alot of thought and research into it. But the Integra 9.8 like I said should be a really good choice especially for the price and all that technology in that pre/pro. Also if you really like the 568 but are going to buy something new with all the new technologies you might want to keep the 568 and just use it in another room as a secondary music system?

What power amps do you run with your 568?

If you decide to keep your 568 you can pick up a Marantz HDMI 1.3a switcher for about $350 that has 6 HDMI 1.3a inputs and 2 HDMI outputs.

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#7 of 12 OFFLINE   MPSAN

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Posted February 03 2008 - 03:33 PM

Well, Dave, the 568 does not have analog in...other than 2 ch. I will look into this a lot, and may be able to take a 9.8 home from the dealer to see just how it does compare!
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#8 of 12 OFFLINE   Dave Moritz

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Posted February 03 2008 - 03:44 PM

What amp are you running with your 568?

Anyway you will most likely be very suprised that the Integra pre/pro should sound very good. From what I hear the Audyssey does wonders for movies and music should sound great as well. And if you have some really good amps behind it then you never know, it may be just what the doctor ordered? Let us know what you end up with and how it works out for you.


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#9 of 12 OFFLINE   MPSAN

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Posted February 04 2008 - 05:42 AM

Dave, I am using a Rotel RMB 1095. It is a big amp and has always sounded great to me. It is, however, a 5 ch amp. That does not bother me, however! OH, also we are using B&W 800 series speakers all around.
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Posted February 05 2008 - 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Asahikasei
For movies it will sound 100% the same, have a look at some of my other threads, high end processors are no different then receivers.
Bob Smith you do not know what you are talking about. I have read your posts and the only conclusion I can draw from your so called knowledge is that you simply cant afford higher end gear. Thats O.K. not everyone can but for those of us that can afford a nice processor rather than go with a cheap receiver the sound difference is very noticeable. I have owned and still own several different receivers. Currently I have a Marantz 7500 doing bedroom duties and an hk 435 in the kids play room. Neither give sound quality anywhere near the B&K ref50s2 in my main system. Yes I have tried them both in my main system. For that matter I bought my nephew the Denon 2803 for Christmas so he could run his 360 and cable box through to his t.v. since he only has 1 hdmi jack. We hooked it up in my system just to see how it would sound, the B&K won hands down. Do I believe that HDMI could sound better than analog out from my bluray and hddvd player's sure but not from a cheap receiver, for me I will wait for the new ref70 before upgrading. So until you have first hand experience with so called high end gear dont bash people that do. For the record I also use a Rotel 1095 and B&W speakers although I only have 7series.

#11 of 12 OFFLINE   Dave Moritz

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Posted February 05 2008 - 05:21 AM

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Bob Smith you do not know what you are talking about. I have read your posts and the only conclusion I can draw from your so called knowledge is that you simply cant afford higher end gear. Thats O.K. not everyone can but for those of us that can afford a nice processor rather than go with a cheap receiver the sound difference is very noticeable.

I have to agree with Richard about there being a noticable difference between cheap receivers and pre/pros. I to have owned a number of receivers and one really nice McIntosh MX-130. IMHO a big difference as that was the best sound I ever had. But then I got married and could not afford to upgrade the MX-130 so I have what I have now, a Yamaha RX-V995. Posted Image The Yamaha has done a very good job and has never been in the shop but I do miss my MX-130.

I have also been to a number of high end retailers and to the CES show in 03' and 04'. And IMHO the high end processors (pre/pro's) do offer what cheap receivers do not, better sound. They also offer flexability that the low end receiver do not offer. While I can not afford the gear I would really like to own and will be most likely be buying a Denon AVR-3808ci or Integra DTR-7.8 or maybe even a 8.8. The sound is still going to be good for the price I am paying for it. It just will not be as good as the top high end gear and I can live with that until I hit the power ball that is. Posted Image
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Posted September 26 2008 - 12:29 AM

If your 568 is available for sale, I'm in the market.

I owned a 565 and miss the Trifield function.
Either iteration will work for my application, purely 2-channel music.

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