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'Meanest mom on planet' sells son's car


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#61 of 67 OFFLINE   RobertR

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Posted January 10 2008 - 09:08 AM

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Does this shame him to his friends, who probably don't care and are in his corner, or before the community, which makes it more likely he'll be marginalized and unable to be a productive citizen?
He'll be "marginalized" only if he doesn't change and demonstrates responsibility (such as not getting a DUI arrest or killing someone on the road). I think people would hire a kid who said "Yes, I made a stupid mistake in judgement, and I'll never do such a shameful thing again" instead of a kid who said "It's all my mom's fault for being such a bitch, and I didn't really do anything wrong anyway".

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Posted January 10 2008 - 09:36 AM

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He'll be "marginalized" only if he doesn't change and demonstrates responsibility (such as not getting a DUI arrest or killing someone on the road). I think people would hire a kid who said "Yes, I made a stupid mistake in judgement, and I'll never do such a shameful thing again" instead of a kid who said "It's all my mom's fault for being such a bitch, and I didn't really do anything wrong anyway".

Possibly, although that probably depends heavily upon his community. I've been places where that would not be the case. I've seen other places where I have no doubt it would.

By the way, it's amazingly hypocritical for today's parents to judge children harshly for having or using booze considering their past. I grew up at a transition point. When I was younger, you could do whatever you wanted. If the police caught you drunk, they'd often drive you home. Now, if you drank three beers and drove, you're a bigger criminal than Stalin.

Granted, people die on the highway when drunk. I've known people who have died when hit by drunks. I've also know plenty of drunk drivers, especially older ones. Some modification had to be made, but this sort of absolutism is sad, IMHO.
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#63 of 67 OFFLINE   Paul Padilla

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Posted January 10 2008 - 09:47 AM

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It clearly means he regrets being CAUGHT, instead of being ashamed that he broke his promise, lied to his mother (in fact, he's STILL lying), and started down a path that could lead to tragedy.
Quite a cynical assumption, and not completely unfounded, but an assumption none the less. The only real fact we have in that regard is that he's denying whose alcohol it was. That does nothing to excuse him from breaking the agreement or the need for consequences. But labeling him a liar clearly illustrates my point that people are forming broad generalizations about his character with very few facts to go on.

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He'll be "marginalized" only if he doesn't change and demonstrates responsibility
Some people can muster this kind of bootstraps change in their life and some can't. It depends heavily on their family structure and their community. I hope for his sake that he can. But some people can have a lot more difficulty recovering from a degrading incident like this and it has nothing to do with their strength or fortitude as the "suck it up" crowd would have us believe. That is what is so insidious about using shame and humiliation as a teaching tactic. There are lots of other consequences that she could have chosen from after selling the car that would have had a better chance of ensuring what we all want, which is for him to straighten up and make better decisions. If she had used the same principal to make him apologize and talk to victims of DUIs it at least would have had some basis to teach consequences.
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Posted January 10 2008 - 10:27 AM

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it has nothing to do with their strength or fortitude as the "suck it up" crowd would have us believe.
What does it have to do with? a lack of character? A lack of desire to correct behavior that caused the "degradation" (NOTHING in the article even remotely suggests that the community is doing something such as pointing at him as he walks down the street and "degrading" him, BTW)? A desire to blame others for whatever bad things happen? I don't see how accepting the ad requires any more strength of character than talking to and apologizing to victims of DUIs.

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Posted January 10 2008 - 10:28 AM

So let's just say they both acted immaturely and move on with our lives.

My idea for her next ad:

"Room For Rent: World's meanest mom has kicked out her no-good 19-year-old, car-less, jobless son because he had booze in his car. Room is furnished with portable meth lab and one mattress, soiled due to son's bladder control problem. Son will be turning tricks on Des Moines street corner, super-cheap rates due to small genitalia and erectile dysfunction caused by meth addiction*."

Now THAT'S humiliation.

*And yes, I'm aware that the son's meth addiction and genitalia size was never mentioned in the article and is a total fabrication on my part. I was using extreme examples in the interest of satire.

#66 of 67 OFFLINE   troy evans

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Posted January 10 2008 - 12:51 PM

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And the mother is any more rational for taking out an ad to humiliate the kid? If the kid was unrepentant and didn't see anything wrong with what he did, what is this going to do? I really doubt he's going to see the error of his ways when he's being laughed at by every person who knows him.
Maybe he's hardheaded and doesn't listen or care. Maybe when others hear about what he did and give him thier 2 cents on it he'll straighten the hell up. People need to be held accountable for thier actions. If he has trouble with people treating him like an irresponsible dumb ass, then he should not have been involved with alcohol. Wether it be his or his friends, it was still his car.He should have shown better judgement. College boy, was he? Yeah, I feel real good about the future generation.
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Posted January 10 2008 - 03:31 PM

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People need to be held accountable for thier actions.
As I've said before, I agree that he needs to be held accountable for his actions and the mother taking the car for her son having alcohol is harsh but a justified punishment. I only have an issue with the 'revenge' ad that she took out.


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